the headlines I see when I google "trump treason" are laughable and fear mongering at its finest. "in dictator move...." is one of the funniest. But hey, I guess I'm a trump supporter now, right?
But he makes a lot of "dictator moves". I'm not sure I see the benefit of blowing of any of his comments, be they serious or not. All of them speak to his general thinking. Even jokes have a kernel of truth, and since you mentioned context... the context of Trump in particular saying shit like this actually does mean something more than if someone else said it. Pretty sure nobody is accusing you of being a Trump supporter, lol.
I have been called a Trump apologist in the past for no other reason than exhibiting some objectivity, so who knows what's next.
Obama reversed his position on the Patriot Act when he was president from when he was senator. I didn't see anyone on the left calling him a dictator or the media going ape-shit over it.
I didn't say blow them off. I said don't jump to hysterics every time he says something stupid. it is important to call him out on his bullshit in a rational way, but all this constant over-reaction will desensitize everyone to everything. The boy who cried wolf, as it were.
But Obama didn't regularly and repeatedly display the traits and actions of a dictator. That comparison actually kind of proves my point. If Trump only said this, or just one thing in particular, and no other things that make him seem like a fascist, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Everyone understands the context in which Trump said this specific comment - we're not all idiots. But the fact that he was "making a funny" in this one instance really isn't the point.
not sure how it proves your point when I wasn't countering your point to begin with. Again, I said don't blow it off, but it's not as hysterical as everyone is making it out to be. there are checks and balances to what he can do. Of course Obama didn't act like this; for one, he seems like a likeable guy, two, even if he wasn't, he is infinitely smarter than Trump and knew what to say in public and what not to.
and yes, we would be having this conversation if he only said one thing like this. we have been having this conversation since the first stupid thing he said. it just so happens that the topic of conversation changes because he says things like this quicker than we can forget the last one.
there is a very small subsection of supporters that actually take trump seriously at his every word. everyone else supports "his" agenda, but simply blows off his stupid comments as just that, stupid. they tolerate his idiocy to further their conservative agenda.
Er, okay... what I meant was, then, the Obama comparison doesn't work. You didn't see anyone on the left calling him a dictator or the media going ape-shit because him doing it didn't make him suddenly seem like a dictator (of course, it was controversial - it's not like people ignored what it meant for America). I actually don't feel like anyone has been "hysterical" about it anyway TBH. And I don't see how "checks and balances" really play in here. Frankly, I think these so-called checks and balances are much less reliable than a lot of people seem to think they are. Democracy is degraded slowly through propaganda, through a bunch of little things that work on the minds of the people and on the way government is run. That only a minority of people support Trump doesn't change that fact. All the tweets, all the quips, combined with all the firings, all the attacks on the justice system and the media, the subtle but purposeful erosion of public trust in the current system ... all those thing culminate into something very dangerous that these "checks and balances" don't necessarily stop in the long run.
how are they less reliable than people think they are? so Trump can just change the constitution on his own so he can become the ultimate ruler for all times?
Who knows? I'm talking about the slow, insidious growth of a system that hurts everyone except those in power, be it a fascist state, a corptocracy, an oligarchy, or whatever. There is some seriously Orwellian shit going on in America right now, and I actually think it's a little naive to just assume that it's impossible for this kind of thing to happen just because of the Constitution. The Constitution isn't the end all and be all of the universe. It is fallible, and it and anything like it are always at risk. Shit falls apart eventually. Trump could very well be the beginning of the slow fall of America or the profound transformation of American into something worse. It happens to every society eventually, so I'm not too sure why some assume it's suddenly impossible just because of the Constitution. And no, I'm not paranoid. I'm just looking at it objectively.
"who knows?" so how do you make a claim like that if you have no idea how to back it up?
I never said it was impossible. Enough with the Orwellian shit. This place seems to have about 7 or 8 different talking points constantly recycled to try to prove a point. i'm not naive, but thanks for (yet another) insult. I am looking at it objectively. Hence the non-hysteria.
One American administration at present will not destroy democracy as we know it.
All I said was the hysteria does not currently match the reality. Will it eventually? Possibly. But today, it does not, IN MY OPINION (I don't think a lot of people here understand what the difference between fact and opinion is). And here I am being naive, telling everyone to just ignore it (which is actually the opposite of what I said), being made fun of. it's incredible how any time one's views don't match the majority around here how you get attacked and ridiculed. There really is no logical discourse here anymore. If you don't agree, you are a fucking idiot. or grumpy. or there is something inherently wrong with you. Heaven forbid a liberal disagrees with the lot on anything.
I think you've confused the word objective with subjective.
I don't want a parade but I disagree with this comment...unless you only want former military to be your president, senators, and reps.
The whole point being: he was never in the military... yet he talks like a big, tuff. military man. He's the equivalent of the 40 year old virgin gamer living in his mom's basement that acts like a stud among his 14 year old gaming buddies.
Lol. You'll never do worse than this guy. You can't. I thought GWB was bad... but he's not even in the same hemisphere as this gomer.
I don't want a parade but I disagree with this comment...unless you only want former military to be your president, senators, and reps.
The whole point being: he was never in the military... yet he talks like a big, tuff. military man. He's the equivalent of the 40 year old virgin gamer living in his mom's basement that acts like a stud among his 14 year old gaming buddies.
Lol. You'll never do worse than this guy. You can't. I thought GWB was bad... but he's not even in the same hemisphere as this gomer.
And he openly stated that he was smarter than all of his generals. Can you imagine serving under Team Trump Treason?
the headlines I see when I google "trump treason" are laughable and fear mongering at its finest. "in dictator move...." is one of the funniest. But hey, I guess I'm a trump supporter now, right?
But he makes a lot of "dictator moves". I'm not sure I see the benefit of blowing of any of his comments, be they serious or not. All of them speak to his general thinking. Even jokes have a kernel of truth, and since you mentioned context... the context of Trump in particular saying shit like this actually does mean something more than if someone else said it. Pretty sure nobody is accusing you of being a Trump supporter, lol.
I have been called a Trump apologist in the past for no other reason than exhibiting some objectivity, so who knows what's next.
Obama reversed his position on the Patriot Act when he was president from when he was senator. I didn't see anyone on the left calling him a dictator or the media going ape-shit over it.
I didn't say blow them off. I said don't jump to hysterics every time he says something stupid. it is important to call him out on his bullshit in a rational way, but all this constant over-reaction will desensitize everyone to everything. The boy who cried wolf, as it were.
But Obama didn't regularly and repeatedly display the traits and actions of a dictator. That comparison actually kind of proves my point. If Trump only said this, or just one thing in particular, and no other things that make him seem like a fascist, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Everyone understands the context in which Trump said this specific comment - we're not all idiots. But the fact that he was "making a funny" in this one instance really isn't the point.
not sure how it proves your point when I wasn't countering your point to begin with. Again, I said don't blow it off, but it's not as hysterical as everyone is making it out to be. there are checks and balances to what he can do. Of course Obama didn't act like this; for one, he seems like a likeable guy, two, even if he wasn't, he is infinitely smarter than Trump and knew what to say in public and what not to.
and yes, we would be having this conversation if he only said one thing like this. we have been having this conversation since the first stupid thing he said. it just so happens that the topic of conversation changes because he says things like this quicker than we can forget the last one.
there is a very small subsection of supporters that actually take trump seriously at his every word. everyone else supports "his" agenda, but simply blows off his stupid comments as just that, stupid. they tolerate his idiocy to further their conservative agenda.
Er, okay... what I meant was, then, the Obama comparison doesn't work. You didn't see anyone on the left calling him a dictator or the media going ape-shit because him doing it didn't make him suddenly seem like a dictator (of course, it was controversial - it's not like people ignored what it meant for America). I actually don't feel like anyone has been "hysterical" about it anyway TBH. And I don't see how "checks and balances" really play in here. Frankly, I think these so-called checks and balances are much less reliable than a lot of people seem to think they are. Democracy is degraded slowly through propaganda, through a bunch of little things that work on the minds of the people and on the way government is run. That only a minority of people support Trump doesn't change that fact. All the tweets, all the quips, combined with all the firings, all the attacks on the justice system and the media, the subtle but purposeful erosion of public trust in the current system ... all those thing culminate into something very dangerous that these "checks and balances" don't necessarily stop in the long run.
how are they less reliable than people think they are? so Trump can just change the constitution on his own so he can become the ultimate ruler for all times?
Who knows? I'm talking about the slow, insidious growth of a system that hurts everyone except those in power, be it a fascist state, a corptocracy, an oligarchy, or whatever. There is some seriously Orwellian shit going on in America right now, and I actually think it's a little naive to just assume that it's impossible for this kind of thing to happen just because of the Constitution. The Constitution isn't the end all and be all of the universe. It is fallible, and it and anything like it are always at risk. Shit falls apart eventually. Trump could very well be the beginning of the slow fall of America or the profound transformation of American into something worse. It happens to every society eventually, so I'm not too sure why some assume it's suddenly impossible just because of the Constitution. And no, I'm not paranoid. I'm just looking at it objectively.
"who knows?" so how do you make a claim like that if you have no idea how to back it up?
I never said it was impossible. Enough with the Orwellian shit. This place seems to have about 7 or 8 different talking points constantly recycled to try to prove a point. i'm not naive, but thanks for (yet another) insult. I am looking at it objectively. Hence the non-hysteria.
One American administration at present will not destroy democracy as we know it.
All I said was the hysteria does not currently match the reality. Will it eventually? Possibly. But today, it does not, IN MY OPINION (I don't think a lot of people here understand what the difference between fact and opinion is). And here I am being naive, telling everyone to just ignore it (which is actually the opposite of what I said), being made fun of. it's incredible how any time one's views don't match the majority around here how you get attacked and ridiculed. There really is no logical discourse here anymore. If you don't agree, you are a fucking idiot. or grumpy. or there is something inherently wrong with you. Heaven forbid a liberal disagrees with the lot on anything.
There are facts you can point to. Are we living in a fascist state? No. Are we inching closer toward one? Absolutely.
I don't want a parade but I disagree with this comment...unless you only want former military to be your president, senators, and reps.
To have a military parade just because you want to see the military might you preside over is just Team Trump Treason stroking his narcissistic ego. If he wants to have it on Veterans Day to celebrate those who actually served or on the 4th of July to celebrate the founding of our nation, okay. Couple of questions: will he have someone pin some fake gold medal on his chest while on the Dias and will those who don’t watch or attend be labeled treasonous?
I don't want a parade but I disagree with this comment...unless you only want former military to be your president, senators, and reps.
To have a military parade just because you want to see the military might you preside over is just Team Trump Treason stroking his narcissistic ego. If he wants to have it on Veterans Day to celebrate those who actually served or on the 4th of July to celebrate the founding of our nation, okay. Couple of questions: will he have someone pin some fake gold medal on his chest while on the Dias and will those who don’t watch or attend be labeled treasonous?
If he wears a military uniform I will jump off a building
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Not even to consider what the cost of this parade will be. Team Trump Treason and the repubes need a trillion more dollars to pay for the tax cut but he wants to throw a parade. Factor in the cost to the local economy and you’ve got fiscal responsibility in all its brilliance. Guess Team trump Treason needs a marketing plan to fill his hotel rooms?
I don't want a parade but I disagree with this comment...unless you only want former military to be your president, senators, and reps.
To have a military parade just because you want to see the military might you preside over is just Team Trump Treason stroking his narcissistic ego. If he wants to have it on Veterans Day to celebrate those who actually served or on the 4th of July to celebrate the founding of our nation, okay. Couple of questions: will he have someone pin some fake gold medal on his chest while on the Dias and will those who don’t watch or attend be labeled treasonous?
If he wears a military uniform I will jump off a building
The only military parade I want to see is one that marches into the White House and places tRump under arrest
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the headlines I see when I google "trump treason" are laughable and fear mongering at its finest. "in dictator move...." is one of the funniest. But hey, I guess I'm a trump supporter now, right?
But he makes a lot of "dictator moves". I'm not sure I see the benefit of blowing of any of his comments, be they serious or not. All of them speak to his general thinking. Even jokes have a kernel of truth, and since you mentioned context... the context of Trump in particular saying shit like this actually does mean something more than if someone else said it. Pretty sure nobody is accusing you of being a Trump supporter, lol.
I have been called a Trump apologist in the past for no other reason than exhibiting some objectivity, so who knows what's next.
Obama reversed his position on the Patriot Act when he was president from when he was senator. I didn't see anyone on the left calling him a dictator or the media going ape-shit over it.
I didn't say blow them off. I said don't jump to hysterics every time he says something stupid. it is important to call him out on his bullshit in a rational way, but all this constant over-reaction will desensitize everyone to everything. The boy who cried wolf, as it were.
But Obama didn't regularly and repeatedly display the traits and actions of a dictator. That comparison actually kind of proves my point. If Trump only said this, or just one thing in particular, and no other things that make him seem like a fascist, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Everyone understands the context in which Trump said this specific comment - we're not all idiots. But the fact that he was "making a funny" in this one instance really isn't the point.
not sure how it proves your point when I wasn't countering your point to begin with. Again, I said don't blow it off, but it's not as hysterical as everyone is making it out to be. there are checks and balances to what he can do. Of course Obama didn't act like this; for one, he seems like a likeable guy, two, even if he wasn't, he is infinitely smarter than Trump and knew what to say in public and what not to.
and yes, we would be having this conversation if he only said one thing like this. we have been having this conversation since the first stupid thing he said. it just so happens that the topic of conversation changes because he says things like this quicker than we can forget the last one.
there is a very small subsection of supporters that actually take trump seriously at his every word. everyone else supports "his" agenda, but simply blows off his stupid comments as just that, stupid. they tolerate his idiocy to further their conservative agenda.
Er, okay... what I meant was, then, the Obama comparison doesn't work. You didn't see anyone on the left calling him a dictator or the media going ape-shit because him doing it didn't make him suddenly seem like a dictator (of course, it was controversial - it's not like people ignored what it meant for America). I actually don't feel like anyone has been "hysterical" about it anyway TBH. And I don't see how "checks and balances" really play in here. Frankly, I think these so-called checks and balances are much less reliable than a lot of people seem to think they are. Democracy is degraded slowly through propaganda, through a bunch of little things that work on the minds of the people and on the way government is run. That only a minority of people support Trump doesn't change that fact. All the tweets, all the quips, combined with all the firings, all the attacks on the justice system and the media, the subtle but purposeful erosion of public trust in the current system ... all those thing culminate into something very dangerous that these "checks and balances" don't necessarily stop in the long run.
how are they less reliable than people think they are? so Trump can just change the constitution on his own so he can become the ultimate ruler for all times?
Who knows? I'm talking about the slow, insidious growth of a system that hurts everyone except those in power, be it a fascist state, a corptocracy, an oligarchy, or whatever. There is some seriously Orwellian shit going on in America right now, and I actually think it's a little naive to just assume that it's impossible for this kind of thing to happen just because of the Constitution. The Constitution isn't the end all and be all of the universe. It is fallible, and it and anything like it are always at risk. Shit falls apart eventually. Trump could very well be the beginning of the slow fall of America or the profound transformation of American into something worse. It happens to every society eventually, so I'm not too sure why some assume it's suddenly impossible just because of the Constitution. And no, I'm not paranoid. I'm just looking at it objectively.
"who knows?" so how do you make a claim like that if you have no idea how to back it up?
I never said it was impossible. Enough with the Orwellian shit. This place seems to have about 7 or 8 different talking points constantly recycled to try to prove a point. i'm not naive, but thanks for (yet another) insult. I am looking at it objectively. Hence the non-hysteria.
One American administration at present will not destroy democracy as we know it.
All I said was the hysteria does not currently match the reality. Will it eventually? Possibly. But today, it does not, IN MY OPINION (I don't think a lot of people here understand what the difference between fact and opinion is). And here I am being naive, telling everyone to just ignore it (which is actually the opposite of what I said), being made fun of. it's incredible how any time one's views don't match the majority around here how you get attacked and ridiculed. There really is no logical discourse here anymore. If you don't agree, you are a fucking idiot. or grumpy. or there is something inherently wrong with you. Heaven forbid a liberal disagrees with the lot on anything.
Huh? I didn't make any "claim". Are you suggesting I actually said that Trump can just change the Constitution on his won so he can become the ultimate ruler for all time? No. I didn't.
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Legendary music producer Quincy Jones claims in a new interview that he “used to date” first daughter and presidential adviser Ivanka Trump.
“I used to date Ivanka, you know,” Jones told Vulture.
The 84-year-old said his daughter was working with fashion designer Tommy Hilfiger about 12 years ago, when Hilfiger told Jones that Trump wanted to have dinner with him.
“I said, ‘No problem. She’s a fine motherf---er,’” Jones told Vulture. “She had the most beautiful legs I ever saw in my life. Wrong father, though.”
Ivanka Trump married her husband, Jared Kushner, in 2009.
Jones has been critical of President Trump in the past, telling The Hill that while he “used to hang out” with the business mogul before he became president, he would not visit the White House while Trump is in office.
In the Vulture interview, Jones sharply criticized racial tensions in the U.S. and accused Trump of stoking racism. He also referred to the president as a “crazy motherf---er.”
“It’s Trump and uneducated rednecks,” he said. “Trump is just telling them what they want to hear. I used to hang out with him. He’s a crazy motherf---er. Limited mentally, a megalomaniac, narcissistic. I can’t stand him.”
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This paraphrases the pro-trump anti-investigation side. It looks nuts when written out so you’d guess only a crazy would buy it, but I would guess 20-25% of the country sees it this way. Maybe more.
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(CNN)White House staff secretary Rob Porter, a top aide to President Donald Trump, has resigned, the White House confirmed Wednesday, following allegations of abuse from his two ex-wives.
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Hillary ever have a $25 million judgement against her held up and made to pay? And she’s the crooked one?
No but she did have a private server in her house. The house that the secret service guards.
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The whole point being: he was never in the military... yet he talks like a big, tuff. military man. He's the equivalent of the 40 year old virgin gamer living in his mom's basement that acts like a stud among his 14 year old gaming buddies.
Lol. You'll never do worse than this guy. You can't. I thought GWB was bad... but he's not even in the same hemisphere as this gomer.
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(CNN)White House staff secretary Rob Porter, a top aide to President Donald Trump, has resigned, the White House confirmed Wednesday, following allegations of abuse from his two ex-wives.
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2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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