So my wife and I are going to Fenway. We are both members and both should be able to try for tickets. Now if we both win for the same show we can not sit together it looks like or we have to sell one of our tickets each and just tell the person that ticket isn't really theirs but the other extra is. Makes things very hard for people looking to do multiple shows and have partners that are just as big as fans as they are.
Correct. I don't think the 10c realizes how many families/group of fans will be impacted negatively by this change :(
So my wife and I are going to Fenway. We are both members and both should be able to try for tickets. Now if we both win for the same show we can not sit together it looks like or we have to sell one of our tickets each and just tell the person that ticket isn't really theirs but the other extra is. Makes things very hard for people looking to do multiple shows and have partners that are just as big as fans as they are.
Correct. I don't think the 10c realizes how many families/group of fans will be impacted negatively by this change :(
You could in theory still get rid of an extra set of tickets, although a little more complicated maybe.
Could you not provide 2 people the guest tickets from both sets and then you and your seat buddy sit in the good seats and the two guests sit in the crappier set of seats.
Not ideal and maybe a little complicated but it could work, except for GA perhaps where you will probably have a bracelet.
That would work, but everyone would not be sitting in the actual seat that they have a ticket for on their phone (one of the guests would be in the member's seat for the crappier pair and vice versa for the better pair). Not sure if that would be a problem inside the venue.
Say my wife and I both put in for Wrigley 1 GA. We would have to cross our fingers that one or both of us bucks the odds and gets the GA.
Because how can we do reserved as a backup like in the past? What if my wife scores GA and I miss GA, but I get reserved as a backup? We're going to be eating $200+ worth of tickets. But if you don't put in for reserved as a backup - the odds are that 2 people with around a 10% chance at GA will both fail, and then you miss the show all-together.
I guess I don't understand why they won't allow us to resell a pair, as long as we show up to the venue and sell it at face value. What harm does that do?
If its not a strange you could always take their phone and log them into your ticketmaster account, assuming this is some one you trust! Or you all enter together and if they print seat receipts at the gate then you just swap them out.
I understand the reason why you can only sell one of your tickets to your friend. My only concern is that if Bob and I both want to go to the same concert and (like in the past) we both decide to take our chances in the lottery which increases our odds of winning a pair at least. We could end up with 2 pairs to the same show and us being seated separate with random guests sitting with us. Seems like this could cause problems.
So the question is how much faith do we put in the sentence where they think they can accommodate "most if not all requests".
Sounds as if they are getting a larger than normal allotment of tix available for 10 club (by avoiding Live Nation venues I assume) so maybe only one of you would need to enter. Guess we'll have a better idea when the odds page of lottery goes live.
Nobody is going to police you once you're in the venue or escort you to your actual seat. You can sit with your friend and the two extra people who got your individual spares can sit together.
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Seeing how this is a pretty big change from the past and there will be 40K+ at each of these shows, would be nice if 10c would go into a little more detail about this new procedure prior to the lottery.
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Seeing how this is a pretty big change from the past and there will be 40K+ at each of these shows, would be nice if 10c would go into a little more detail about this new procedure prior to the lottery.
I feel like there isnt much more they could cover. It's super confusing at first. I had to read thrice to make sure I fully understood
Say my wife and I both put in for Wrigley 1 GA. We would have to cross our fingers that one or both of us bucks the odds and gets the GA.
Because how can we do reserved as a backup like in the past? What if my wife scores GA and I miss GA, but I get reserved as a backup? We're going to be eating $200+ worth of tickets. But if you don't put in for reserved as a backup - the odds are that 2 people with around a 10% chance at GA will both fail, and then you miss the show all-together.
I guess I don't understand why they won't allow us to resell a pair, as long as we show up to the venue and sell it at face value. What harm does that do?
I am in the exact same boat but for night 2. My strategy is to go with GA for both of us and have the lowest number put reserved as #2 and leaving the other blank.
You could in theory still get rid of an extra set of tickets, although a little more complicated maybe.
Could you not provide 2 people the guest tickets from both sets and then you and your seat buddy sit in the good seats and the two guests sit in the crappier set of seats.
Not ideal and maybe a little complicated but it could work, except for GA perhaps where you will probably have a bracelet.
That would work, but everyone would not be sitting in the actual seat that they have a ticket for on their phone (one of the guests would be in the member's seat for the crappier pair and vice versa for the better pair). Not sure if that would be a problem inside the venue.
Agreed, not sure how much they will be checking once you head to your seats.
I understand the reason why you can only sell one of your tickets to your friend. My only concern is that if Bob and I both want to go to the same concert and (like in the past) we both decide to take our chances in the lottery which increases our odds of winning a pair at least. We could end up with 2 pairs to the same show and us being seated separate with random guests sitting with us. Seems like this could cause problems.
So the question is how much faith do we put in the sentence where they think they can accommodate "most if not all requests".
Sounds as if they are getting a larger than normal allotment of tix available for 10 club (by avoiding Live Nation venues I assume) so maybe only one of you would need to enter. Guess we'll have a better idea when the odds page of lottery goes live.
Nobody is going to police you once you're in the venue or escort you to your actual seat. You can sit with your friend and the two extra people who got your individual spares can sit together.
As long as one pair isn't GA, and the other pair reserved.
Say my wife and I both put in for Wrigley 1 GA. We would have to cross our fingers that one or both of us bucks the odds and gets the GA.
Because how can we do reserved as a backup like in the past? What if my wife scores GA and I miss GA, but I get reserved as a backup? We're going to be eating $200+ worth of tickets. But if you don't put in for reserved as a backup - the odds are that 2 people with around a 10% chance at GA will both fail, and then you miss the show all-together.
I guess I don't understand why they won't allow us to resell a pair, as long as we show up to the venue and sell it at face value. What harm does that do?
That is one hitch, eh? I'm thinking you could swap phones with someone and share login info to get around this, assuming you trust them and they trust you. Not sure how 10C would take this, but to me it seems fair. It's not like you're going to swap phones with a scalper or anything.
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What about this one? In the past, I thought we could sell them (after picking them up) for face value.
- Reselling of Ten Club tickets will result in cancellation of ticket purchase and possible loss of membership.
That won’t change for your +1 but you can’t sell a pair. Just get what you need and not multiple pairs, easy!
If this means that whatever you put in for you're likely to get (which the email hints at), then that's cool.
If it doesn't though, it kind of sucks. My gf and I are both 10c members. Normally we could both put in for the same show, giving us pretty good odds of ending up with tickets, and if we both happened to win we could just resell the extra pair at face or give to friends. Now it seems we can't both put in for that show, because if we both win then the second pair is not re-sellable.
You can totally both put in for the show. If you both win, then you both just find +1s, and, assuming you're talking seats and not GA, you just switch seats with one of your +1s so you can sit together. The only thing is that you'd have to find two individuals who are going alone, which won't be difficult. Lots of people are happy to go alone.
This won't really work because they check your ticket(real or virtual) to allow access to that section. The chances of NOT getting checked in venues are slim.
Each 10C member is locked to their won seat assignment. So there are 3 scenarios.... 1) Sit separate & assign the +1 seat to someone other than their SO (not gonna happen) 2) Sit together and loose one 10C set 3) Sit together and loose the 10C primary seat and sell/transfer the +1 as a single
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What more detail are people looking for? I think it's pretty clear.
True, but there are other factors. When we scan our phones, do we get a receipt to hold on to then Showing our seats? Or do we have to keep showing our phone every time we leave our seat, or GA? I'm sure that will kill a lot of peoples batteries. What happens then if you phone dies once in the concourse? Are you SOL?
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What about this one? In the past, I thought we could sell them (after picking them up) for face value.
- Reselling of Ten Club tickets will result in cancellation of ticket purchase and possible loss of membership.
That won’t change for your +1 but you can’t sell a pair. Just get what you need and not multiple pairs, easy!
If this means that whatever you put in for you're likely to get (which the email hints at), then that's cool.
If it doesn't though, it kind of sucks. My gf and I are both 10c members. Normally we could both put in for the same show, giving us pretty good odds of ending up with tickets, and if we both happened to win we could just resell the extra pair at face or give to friends. Now it seems we can't both put in for that show, because if we both win then the second pair is not re-sellable.
You can totally both put in for the show. If you both win, then you both just find +1s, and, assuming you're talking seats and not GA, you just switch seats with one of your +1s so you can sit together. The only thing is that you'd have to find two individuals who are going alone, which won't be difficult. Lots of people are happy to go alone.
This won't really work because they check your ticket(real or virtual) to allow access to that section. The chances of NOT getting checked in venues are slim.
Each 10C member is locked to their won seat assignment. So there are 3 scenarios.... 1) Sit separate & assign the +1 seat to someone other than their SO (not gonna happen) 2) Sit together and loose one 10C set 3) Sit together and loose the 10C primary seat and sell/transfer the +1 as a single
Really? I've never had anyone insist on checking my tickets in the venue unless it's GA (that includes Mariners games at Safeco). Otherwise they only look if you want help finding your seat. Do they check every single person every single time they go into their section?? Even when they're just coming back from the washroom? What if someone leaves their phone at the seat with their friend?? Of course, one of you can just swap phones with the the other person. They aren't going to be checking IDs along with the phone code, surely, and certainly not at each section.
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Say my wife and I both put in for Wrigley 1 GA. We would have to cross our fingers that one or both of us bucks the odds and gets the GA.
Because how can we do reserved as a backup like in the past? What if my wife scores GA and I miss GA, but I get reserved as a backup? We're going to be eating $200+ worth of tickets. But if you don't put in for reserved as a backup - the odds are that 2 people with around a 10% chance at GA will both fail, and then you miss the show all-together.
I guess I don't understand why they won't allow us to resell a pair, as long as we show up to the venue and sell it at face value. What harm does that do?
That is one hitch, eh? I'm thinking you could swap phones with someone and share login info to get around this, assuming you trust them and they trust you. Not sure how 10C would take this, but to me it seems fair. It's not like you're going to swap phones with a scalper or anything.
haha, we probably shouldn't speculate on how to get around these rules. But even so, I was assuming they would require an ID to go along with enteringg with the phone tickets? Who knows though.
As the rules are looking today, I think what's going to happen is a lot of tickets will end up unused and many members will be eating hundreds of extra dollars, just to make sure they get in the building. It is what it is I guess.
who's the first fan on here to come on the forums the next day and say they got hammered during pre game and shattered their cell phone and wasn't able to get in...only water for me on game day!
Say my wife and I both put in for Wrigley 1 GA. We would have to cross our fingers that one or both of us bucks the odds and gets the GA.
Because how can we do reserved as a backup like in the past? What if my wife scores GA and I miss GA, but I get reserved as a backup? We're going to be eating $200+ worth of tickets. But if you don't put in for reserved as a backup - the odds are that 2 people with around a 10% chance at GA will both fail, and then you miss the show all-together.
I guess I don't understand why they won't allow us to resell a pair, as long as we show up to the venue and sell it at face value. What harm does that do?
The reason they are doing this is so that it gives unfair advantage to couples compared to the single account. It also cuts down on scalping period. With the change, I think odds will be much better to score tickets than in the past because of less entries because of duplicate accounts. Heck, I think there are some people here who have 10 club accounts for fido and kitty here.
who's the first fan on here to come on the forums the next day and say they got hammered during pre game and shattered their cell phone and wasn't able to get in...only water for me on game day!
Better make sure your screens don;t have cracks in them prior to the show, and are clean.
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Say my wife and I both put in for Wrigley 1 GA. We would have to cross our fingers that one or both of us bucks the odds and gets the GA.
Because how can we do reserved as a backup like in the past? What if my wife scores GA and I miss GA, but I get reserved as a backup? We're going to be eating $200+ worth of tickets. But if you don't put in for reserved as a backup - the odds are that 2 people with around a 10% chance at GA will both fail, and then you miss the show all-together.
I guess I don't understand why they won't allow us to resell a pair, as long as we show up to the venue and sell it at face value. What harm does that do?
The reason they are doing this is so that it gives unfair advantage to couples compared to the single account. It also cuts down on scalping period. With the change, I think odds will be much better to score tickets than in the past because of less entries because of duplicate accounts. Heck, I think there are some people here who have 10 club accounts for fido and kitty here.
hey, my bird "Boo" can whistle/sing "Black" better than any fan. on that alone, he deserves his digital membership
Say my wife and I both put in for Wrigley 1 GA. We would have to cross our fingers that one or both of us bucks the odds and gets the GA.
Because how can we do reserved as a backup like in the past? What if my wife scores GA and I miss GA, but I get reserved as a backup? We're going to be eating $200+ worth of tickets. But if you don't put in for reserved as a backup - the odds are that 2 people with around a 10% chance at GA will both fail, and then you miss the show all-together.
I guess I don't understand why they won't allow us to resell a pair, as long as we show up to the venue and sell it at face value. What harm does that do?
That is one hitch, eh? I'm thinking you could swap phones with someone and share login info to get around this, assuming you trust them and they trust you. Not sure how 10C would take this, but to me it seems fair. It's not like you're going to swap phones with a scalper or anything.
haha, we probably shouldn't speculate on how to get around these rules. But even so, I was assuming they would require an ID to go along with enteringg with the phone tickets? Who knows though.
As the rules are looking today, I think what's going to happen is a lot of tickets will end up unused and many members will be eating hundreds of extra dollars, just to make sure they get in the building. It is what it is I guess.
Checking IDs plus scanning phones? That would be very time consuming with that many people, so I kind of doubt it. But even if they do, they won't check IDs once you're in the venue, so just enter, then trade phones.
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Say my wife and I both put in for Wrigley 1 GA. We would have to cross our fingers that one or both of us bucks the odds and gets the GA.
Because how can we do reserved as a backup like in the past? What if my wife scores GA and I miss GA, but I get reserved as a backup? We're going to be eating $200+ worth of tickets. But if you don't put in for reserved as a backup - the odds are that 2 people with around a 10% chance at GA will both fail, and then you miss the show all-together.
I guess I don't understand why they won't allow us to resell a pair, as long as we show up to the venue and sell it at face value. What harm does that do?
That is one hitch, eh? I'm thinking you could swap phones with someone and share login info to get around this, assuming you trust them and they trust you. Not sure how 10C would take this, but to me it seems fair. It's not like you're going to swap phones with a scalper or anything.
The last show I was at was Fenway and I got checked ever time I walked onto the field and almost every time into our section. If I didn't show my ticket I wouldn't have been able to get back in. So swapping phones is out because you probably won't be near the other set of tickets/seats. The only possible "out" is giving someone your login.
My wife and I both put in for tickets. If we both win the same a night we find 10C friends who didn't get tickets and give the tickets to them OR trade for a night we didn't win tickets for. But sometimes it is a friend of a friend and giving logins isn't really something I want to do.
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You could in theory still get rid of an extra set of tickets, although a little more complicated maybe.
Could you not provide 2 people the guest tickets from both sets and then you and your seat buddy sit in the good seats and the two guests sit in the crappier set of seats.
Not ideal and maybe a little complicated but it could work, except for GA perhaps where you will probably have a bracelet.
That would work, but everyone would not be sitting in the actual seat that they have a ticket for on their phone (one of the guests would be in the member's seat for the crappier pair and vice versa for the better pair). Not sure if that would be a problem inside the venue.
Agreed, not sure how much they will be checking once you head to your seats.
Well they arent going to just allow you to stroll down to the Pit...
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That would work, but everyone would not be sitting in the actual seat that they have a ticket for on their phone (one of the guests would be in the member's seat for the crappier pair and vice versa for the better pair). Not sure if that would be a problem inside the venue.
Because how can we do reserved as a backup like in the past? What if my wife scores GA and I miss GA, but I get reserved as a backup? We're going to be eating $200+ worth of tickets. But if you don't put in for reserved as a backup - the odds are that 2 people with around a 10% chance at GA will both fail, and then you miss the show all-together.
I guess I don't understand why they won't allow us to resell a pair, as long as we show up to the venue and sell it at face value. What harm does that do?
Nobody is going to police you once you're in the venue or escort you to your actual seat. You can sit with your friend and the two extra people who got your individual spares can sit together.
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I can see a new merch item for sale at the shows.......PJ Home Shows portable phone charger.
I can see a new merch item for sale at the shows.....PJ Home Shows portable phone charger.
Each 10C member is locked to their won seat assignment. So there are 3 scenarios....
1) Sit separate & assign the +1 seat to someone other than their SO (not gonna happen)
2) Sit together and loose one 10C set
3) Sit together and loose the 10C primary seat and sell/transfer the +1 as a single
As the rules are looking today, I think what's going to happen is a lot of tickets will end up unused and many members will be eating hundreds of extra dollars, just to make sure they get in the building. It is what it is I guess.
My wife and I both put in for tickets. If we both win the same a night we find 10C friends who didn't get tickets and give the tickets to them OR trade for a night we didn't win tickets for. But sometimes it is a friend of a friend and giving logins isn't really something I want to do.