I don't believe in God

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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 12,772
    I am happy for people who live by the 'faith' -- I am just not one of those people.  I need to believe there is fact behind something...or I call it fiction.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 2,432
    The free will argument is a cop out.  That is the argument you use when you are backed into a corner for believing in an invisible man.
    Care to explain why?
    If I felt backed into a corner, I probably just wouldnt log back into this thread instead of having a conversation with those who are curious. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 7,149
    mace1229 said:
    The free will argument is a cop out.  That is the argument you use when you are backed into a corner for believing in an invisible man.
    Care to explain why?
    If I felt backed into a corner, I probably just wouldnt log back into this thread instead of having a conversation with those who are curious. 
    Because as long as you hang your hat on free will there is no reason to believe anything different.

    I don't believe there is an invisible man that gives us free will any more than he gives apes or raccoons free will.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 2,432
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    So a sincere question for non believers, if you could choose, would you want there to be a God or not?
    Absolutely not, if that God operates in this reality.
    Why would I want a wantonly malicious and supremely vain deity sitting in the sky like a child with a magnifier over an ant hill.
    Why would anyone want to believe that there is an omnipotent being that sits back and watches the Holocaust unfold? 
    Fuck that!

    It often comes back to this question about how god can allow suffering. If we would say that there is no god, wouldn’t there still be suffering? It would probably still be suffering but there would be no one to turn to, no comfort to get.  I prefer believing in god  just because it feels better. 
    I'm with Pj_Soul, if I believed there was a God who could stop children from starving and being raped, but chose not to for no good reason, I would hate that God for being such a dick.
    Yeah that's where I'm at.

    If god is all powerful and does nothing to end suffering then that isn't a god I'm interested in paying much attention to.
    Believe me I hate that too, evil humans.
    right....humans that are more powerful than god. 
    But how could a God take away our every way of evil? We have free will. What would we even be able to do freely if a God intervened? I don't think it's so easy to say that if there is a God they are spiteful to allow suffering. If you take the God concept as truth, then you recognize that the ability to create and control are different pieces of the puzzle. I guess we shouldn't procreate because our children may be the next mass murderer. We know the risks, but do so anyway.
    Excuse me....if you knew that god would immediately smite you if you fucked up, would you fuck up?
    What does it mean to "fuck up"? Is it reserved for rapists and murderers or does swindling $1,000 qualify? Much like the criminal justice system, people often know there will be a consequence, but due to either emotion or lack there of, we do it anyway. I don't see that changing under any circumstances. Sure, it may have a slight impact, but to err is human. We are a flawed creation.
    Just imagine if God actually clearly laid out the rules and punishments and then actually administered them?
    God says, don't steal or you'll get Herpes.
    You steal.  Boom, Herpes.


    Sure seems like a no brainer system to me.
    That system requires zero faith.
    If everyone saw God immediate smite down anyone who did anything wrong of course we'd all be perfect. But there would be zero faith, and essentially have taken away or free will to choose to do good or evil through fear.
    We see people get out in prison for breaking the law everyday and people still break the law.
    Why does there need to be faith?  Why can't there be confidence?
    The idea that free will must be unrestrained and unpunished is just another platitude devised to defend what obviously doesn't make sense.

    Why must there be evil?  Can't there be discomfort and betrayal and all sorts of problems without the extremes?  I understand and agree with the concept that you can't appreciate good without bad, but come on, the Holocaust?  Can't there be an upward limit to suffering?  Yes.  There could.
    I dont think the prison example is an equal comparison. People who get out of jail and still break the law almost always think they won;t get caught this time. The example of God striking people down there was no thinking you may get away with it. It wasn't my scenario, but that is what I gathered, if you do something bad God immediately strikes you down. Well, then of course you will always be good if there is no possibility of getting away with it. Most criminals wouldn;t steal if they knew 100% they could not get away with it.

    I don;t know what the difference between faith and confidence is. I guess do you mean it is faith because I believe there is a God, but it isnt confident because I can;t prove it? I'm not sure.

    I dont know why there must be evil. Some humans by nature are going to commit evil acts. There is good and evil and miles of gray area in between that includes betrayal and discomfort.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 40,949
    mace1229 said:
    The free will argument is a cop out.  That is the argument you use when you are backed into a corner for believing in an invisible man.
    Care to explain why?
    If I felt backed into a corner, I probably just wouldnt log back into this thread instead of having a conversation with those who are curious. 
    I thought he was talking about it in terms of the big picture, not in this thread. No? The free will argument isn't just happening in this thread. All of organized Christianity uses this argument to try and answer the very obvious problems with their faith. Christianity, and therefore all Christians, are backed into a corner when it comes to this issue.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 2,432
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    The free will argument is a cop out.  That is the argument you use when you are backed into a corner for believing in an invisible man.
    Care to explain why?
    If I felt backed into a corner, I probably just wouldnt log back into this thread instead of having a conversation with those who are curious. 
    I thought he was talking about it in terms of the big picture, not in this thread. No? The free will argument isn't just happening in this thread. All of organized Christianity uses this argument to try and answer the very obvious problems with their faith. Christianity, and therefore all Christians, are backed into a corner when it comes to this issue.
    I don;t see it that way. It seems like a very good explanation to me. What would be the point of a god to create life if only to control them? Life would be boring if I didn't have a choice in what I did, and I was controlled by my creator. It would be a world of robots.
    Allowing us to live our lives, with all the good and bad that comes with it and live with the consequences doesn't seems like any glaringly obvious issues with the free will argument to me.
    So lets assume tomorrow you wake up believing there is a God. What would make more sense to you, that he controls your life and prevents a world of suffering, or allows you to live and suffer together?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 40,949
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    The free will argument is a cop out.  That is the argument you use when you are backed into a corner for believing in an invisible man.
    Care to explain why?
    If I felt backed into a corner, I probably just wouldnt log back into this thread instead of having a conversation with those who are curious. 
    I thought he was talking about it in terms of the big picture, not in this thread. No? The free will argument isn't just happening in this thread. All of organized Christianity uses this argument to try and answer the very obvious problems with their faith. Christianity, and therefore all Christians, are backed into a corner when it comes to this issue.
    I don;t see it that way. It seems like a very good explanation to me. What would be the point of a god to create life if only to control them? Life would be boring if I didn't have a choice in what I did, and I was controlled by my creator. It would be a world of robots.
    Allowing us to live our lives, with all the good and bad that comes with it and live with the consequences doesn't seems like any glaringly obvious issues with the free will argument to me.
    So lets assume tomorrow you wake up believing there is a God. What would make more sense to you, that he controls your life and prevents a world of suffering, or allows you to live and suffer together?
    Stopping suffering when possible isn't about controlling them. God could zap that knife out of the rapist's hands and hit him on the head with a bolt of lightening if he wanted. Saving the victims is what's important, not controlling the bad people. But oh yeah! God can't do anything like that because he won't fucking reveal that he exists to anyone! :lol:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 10,916
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    The free will argument is a cop out.  That is the argument you use when you are backed into a corner for believing in an invisible man.
    Care to explain why?
    If I felt backed into a corner, I probably just wouldnt log back into this thread instead of having a conversation with those who are curious. 
    I thought he was talking about it in terms of the big picture, not in this thread. No? The free will argument isn't just happening in this thread. All of organized Christianity uses this argument to try and answer the very obvious problems with their faith. Christianity, and therefore all Christians, are backed into a corner when it comes to this issue.
    I don;t see it that way. It seems like a very good explanation to me. What would be the point of a god to create life if only to control them? Life would be boring if I didn't have a choice in what I did, and I was controlled by my creator. It would be a world of robots.
    Allowing us to live our lives, with all the good and bad that comes with it and live with the consequences doesn't seems like any glaringly obvious issues with the free will argument to me.
    So lets assume tomorrow you wake up believing there is a God. What would make more sense to you, that he controls your life and prevents a world of suffering, or allows you to live and suffer together?
    There is a ton of middle ground between total free will and robots.

    Free will can exist within confines, it doesn't need to be complete.  There are a gazillion ways it could work and religion will only acknowledge the reason they think it can't.
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  • MalrothMalroth broken down chevroletPosts: 1,681
    Church this morning!
    warsaw.cc if you want to check it out.
    Feel free to rip us a new one. :wink:
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 16,124
    i am a man of science. belief in god and belief in science cannot co-exist in my brain. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,787
    i am a man of science. belief in god and belief in science cannot co-exist in my brain. 
    I am catholic and absolutely believe in science.  I look at myself as a very liberal catholic, meaning I am pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, women should be way more involved with the church, priests and nuns should marry, the bible is a book of stories and not fact, etc.  So both science and god co-exist in my head rather nicely.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 16,124
    mcgruff10 said:
    i am a man of science. belief in god and belief in science cannot co-exist in my brain. 
    I am catholic and absolutely believe in science.  I look at myself as a very liberal catholic, meaning I am pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, women should be way more involved with the church, priests and nuns should marry, the bible is a book of stories and not fact, etc.  So both science and god co-exist in my head rather nicely.
    until this pope your views would get you excommunicated. this is why i quit being catholic when i was 16. a book of stories? really? so what about Catholicism to you believe?
    "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed."- Hemingway

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,787
    mcgruff10 said:
    i am a man of science. belief in god and belief in science cannot co-exist in my brain. 
    I am catholic and absolutely believe in science.  I look at myself as a very liberal catholic, meaning I am pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, women should be way more involved with the church, priests and nuns should marry, the bible is a book of stories and not fact, etc.  So both science and god co-exist in my head rather nicely.
    until this pope your views would get you excommunicated. this is why i quit being catholic when i was 16. a book of stories? really? so what about Catholicism to you believe?
    I'm already excommunicated since I divorced, remarried outside the catholic church and had another child lol.  I believe in heaven and hell, the holy trinity, god, satan, and jesus died for our sins (I guess the basics).  and yeah some of the bible is stories in my mind (noah and the ark for instance).
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 10,916
    mcgruff10 said:
    i am a man of science. belief in god and belief in science cannot co-exist in my brain. 
    I am catholic and absolutely believe in science.  I look at myself as a very liberal catholic, meaning I am pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, women should be way more involved with the church, priests and nuns should marry, the bible is a book of stories and not fact, etc.  So both science and god co-exist in my head rather nicely.
    Haha you aren't Catholic.
    You are free to call yourself Catholic, but those are not Catholic views.

    How can you believe in normal stuff and then still go attend the cult-like services they offer?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,787
    rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    i am a man of science. belief in god and belief in science cannot co-exist in my brain. 
    I am catholic and absolutely believe in science.  I look at myself as a very liberal catholic, meaning I am pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, women should be way more involved with the church, priests and nuns should marry, the bible is a book of stories and not fact, etc.  So both science and god co-exist in my head rather nicely.
    Haha you aren't Catholic.
    You are free to call yourself Catholic, but those are not Catholic views.

    How can you believe in normal stuff and then still go attend the cult-like services they offer?
    and they totally aren't catholic views.  I guess I'm just straight up christian.  Honestly I don't go to church.  I say prayers at night and try to be a good person.  To me you don't have to go to church to be a good catholic.  Yeah I' m way not catholic bud lol.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Church of the Scruffy lol

    Whatever gets you through your day, buddy.

    One of my oldest friends and I periodically debate religion. He's similar to you, but still feels he's Catholic in the classical sense. When we are done debating... everything is back to what it was.

    I don't have a problem with religion provided one's beliefs do not impact others around them. So... in other words... if you believe and say prayers at night because that completes you... while living a good life where you are a positive member of society... then all is good.

    But there is no God though.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,787
    Church of the Scruffy lol

    Whatever gets you through your day, buddy.

    One of my oldest friends and I periodically debate religion. He's similar to you, but still feels he's Catholic in the classical sense. When we are done debating... everything is back to what it was.

    I don't have a problem with religion provided one's beliefs do not impact others around them. So... in other words... if you believe and say prayers at night because that completes you... while living a good life where you are a positive member of society... then all is good.

    But there is no God though.
    we shall debate while drinking IPA's!  That way no one loses.  ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 10,916
    mcgruff10 said:
    rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    i am a man of science. belief in god and belief in science cannot co-exist in my brain. 
    I am catholic and absolutely believe in science.  I look at myself as a very liberal catholic, meaning I am pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, women should be way more involved with the church, priests and nuns should marry, the bible is a book of stories and not fact, etc.  So both science and god co-exist in my head rather nicely.
    Haha you aren't Catholic.
    You are free to call yourself Catholic, but those are not Catholic views.

    How can you believe in normal stuff and then still go attend the cult-like services they offer?
    and they totally aren't catholic views.  I guess I'm just straight up christian.  Honestly I don't go to church.  I say prayers at night and try to be a good person.  To me you don't have to go to church to be a good catholic.  Yeah I' m way not catholic bud lol.
    Haha my in-laws talk about "half-assed Catholics" but I don't think you can even meet those criteria.
    Good for you! lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mcgruff10 said:
    Church of the Scruffy lol

    Whatever gets you through your day, buddy.

    One of my oldest friends and I periodically debate religion. He's similar to you, but still feels he's Catholic in the classical sense. When we are done debating... everything is back to what it was.

    I don't have a problem with religion provided one's beliefs do not impact others around them. So... in other words... if you believe and say prayers at night because that completes you... while living a good life where you are a positive member of society... then all is good.

    But there is no God though.
    we shall debate while drinking IPA's!  That way no one loses.  ;)

    Hey...

    We've already been through this. You are a little light weight American beer drinker. That stuff passes for water up here in the great white north. Our waiters and waitresses ask customers if they would like regular water or beer flavoured water from the US (which is typically Budweiser, Miller, Coors or another mainstream US beer).

    You might need 3-4 years to acclimatize. It might be best for me to come south. That way... I could pretend to be impressed with your IPAs and you could be two things:
    1. Still on your feet.
    2. Happy (I'd even let you rip off a few 'USA USA' chants).
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,787
    mcgruff10 said:
    Church of the Scruffy lol

    Whatever gets you through your day, buddy.

    One of my oldest friends and I periodically debate religion. He's similar to you, but still feels he's Catholic in the classical sense. When we are done debating... everything is back to what it was.

    I don't have a problem with religion provided one's beliefs do not impact others around them. So... in other words... if you believe and say prayers at night because that completes you... while living a good life where you are a positive member of society... then all is good.

    But there is no God though.
    we shall debate while drinking IPA's!  That way no one loses.  ;)

    Hey...

    We've already been through this. You are a little light weight American beer drinker. That stuff passes for water up here in the great white north. Our waiters and waitresses ask customers if they would like regular water or beer flavoured water from the US (which is typically Budweiser, Miller, Coors or another mainstream US beer).

    You might need 3-4 years to acclimatize. It might be best for me to come south. That way... I could pretend to be impressed with your IPAs and you could be two things:
    1. Still on your feet.
    2. Happy (I'd even let you rip off a few 'USA USA' chants).
    again, tough talk coming from the guy who drinks moosehead beer.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • I cannot lie. I have drank Moosehead beer.

    Sometimes a man finds himself in a situation where he can't be too choosy.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,787
    I cannot lie. I have drank Moosehead beer.

    Sometimes a man finds himself in a situation where he can't be too choosy.
    Just changing his subject here for a second but is crown royal popular in your neck of the woods?  My god that is some tasty whisky!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    I cannot lie. I have drank Moosehead beer.

    Sometimes a man finds himself in a situation where he can't be too choosy.
    Just changing his subject here for a second but is crown royal popular in your neck of the woods?  My god that is some tasty whisky!!

    My friends and I used to drink that and Wisers to finish the nights off. We don't drink rye anymore though so I can't really tell you what the whiskey drinkers are digging at the moment.

    I'm assuming it's still popular.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,787
    mcgruff10 said:
    I cannot lie. I have drank Moosehead beer.

    Sometimes a man finds himself in a situation where he can't be too choosy.
    Just changing his subject here for a second but is crown royal popular in your neck of the woods?  My god that is some tasty whisky!!

    My friends and I used to drink that and Wisers to finish the nights off. We don't drink rye anymore though so I can't really tell you what the whiskey drinkers are digging at the moment.

    I'm assuming it's still popular.
    Too bad we all can’t meet before a pj show and hash all this shit out. It would be one hell of a night!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 2,432
    mcgruff10 said:
    Church of the Scruffy lol

    Whatever gets you through your day, buddy.

    One of my oldest friends and I periodically debate religion. He's similar to you, but still feels he's Catholic in the classical sense. When we are done debating... everything is back to what it was.

    I don't have a problem with religion provided one's beliefs do not impact others around them. So... in other words... if you believe and say prayers at night because that completes you... while living a good life where you are a positive member of society... then all is good.

    But there is no God though.
    we shall debate while drinking IPA's!  That way no one loses.  ;)

    Hey...

    We've already been through this. You are a little light weight American beer drinker. That stuff passes for water up here in the great white north. Our waiters and waitresses ask customers if they would like regular water or beer flavoured water from the US (which is typically Budweiser, Miller, Coors or another mainstream US beer).

    You might need 3-4 years to acclimatize. It might be best for me to come south. That way... I could pretend to be impressed with your IPAs and you could be two things:
    1. Still on your feet.
    2. Happy (I'd even let you rip off a few 'USA USA' chants).
    What is Canadian beer? Don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about it.
    and Bud/Miller/Coors are poor examples of American beer. Every major city has 100 micro breweries (that basically just  knock off the best varieties of beer from around the world, so maybe you're right.)
    We always have a healthy supply of PBR and /or Miller High Life on hand. Nothing wrong with having a supply of beer that is literally cheaper than water. Then we have our weekend/bad day beers too.
  • mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Church of the Scruffy lol

    Whatever gets you through your day, buddy.

    One of my oldest friends and I periodically debate religion. He's similar to you, but still feels he's Catholic in the classical sense. When we are done debating... everything is back to what it was.

    I don't have a problem with religion provided one's beliefs do not impact others around them. So... in other words... if you believe and say prayers at night because that completes you... while living a good life where you are a positive member of society... then all is good.

    But there is no God though.
    we shall debate while drinking IPA's!  That way no one loses.  ;)

    Hey...

    We've already been through this. You are a little light weight American beer drinker. That stuff passes for water up here in the great white north. Our waiters and waitresses ask customers if they would like regular water or beer flavoured water from the US (which is typically Budweiser, Miller, Coors or another mainstream US beer).

    You might need 3-4 years to acclimatize. It might be best for me to come south. That way... I could pretend to be impressed with your IPAs and you could be two things:
    1. Still on your feet.
    2. Happy (I'd even let you rip off a few 'USA USA' chants).
    What is Canadian beer? Don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about it.
    and Bud/Miller/Coors are poor examples of American beer. Every major city has 100 micro breweries (that basically just  knock off the best varieties of beer from around the world, so maybe you're right.)
    We always have a healthy supply of PBR and /or Miller High Life on hand. Nothing wrong with having a supply of beer that is literally cheaper than water. Then we have our weekend/bad day beers too.

    I was kidding around (mostly).

    Canadian beer of the commercial variety has a higher alcohol content than American beer. But, we can both agree that the big brands in both countries are not the finest beers to be had (although they do just fine when called upon).

    The micro breweries have been splendid developments for beer drinkers.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I cannot lie. I have drank Moosehead beer.

    Sometimes a man finds himself in a situation where he can't be too choosy.
    Just changing his subject here for a second but is crown royal popular in your neck of the woods?  My god that is some tasty whisky!!

    My friends and I used to drink that and Wisers to finish the nights off. We don't drink rye anymore though so I can't really tell you what the whiskey drinkers are digging at the moment.

    I'm assuming it's still popular.
    Too bad we all can’t meet before a pj show and hash all this shit out. It would be one hell of a night!

    That would be fun. Although... I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be able to figure out how to tie our shoes let alone fix the world's problems!
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,153
    edited January 14
    Down here in the USA I can deal with pretty much any of the water beers.
    I like Coors, Budweiser and Miller.
    I like pretty much every craft/micro brews I've ever tried except for the sweet ones that taste like hard maple syrup don't like those to much.
    But my favorite beer of all time comes from Lithuania better known buy Lithuanians as Lietuva.
    Svturys is my favorite Beer of all time.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Švyturys
    Hugh freaking Dillon had the Concept of God thread going for a while & I poured a lot of energy into that thread so I'm spent as far as that goes., but I can talk about beer.
    I believe that beer, wine, and burbon is all the proof you need that there is a God.
    He knew that life was going to be a challenge so, He allowed mankind to come up with a variety of drinks, beer, wine, or burbon, maybe even a little herb because he wanted us to be happy.
    Cheers!!
    Post edited by RYME on
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    RYME said:
    Down here in the USA I can deal with pretty much any of the water beers.
    I like Coors, Budweiser and Miller.
    I like pretty much every craft/micro brews I've ever tried except for the sweet ones that taste like hard maple syrup don't like those to much.
    But my favorite beer of all time comes from Lithuania better known buy Lithuanians as Lietuva.
    Svturys is my favorite Beer of all time.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Švyturys
    Hugh freaking Dillon had the Concept of God thread going for a while & I poured a lot of energy into that thread so I'm spent as far as that goes., but I can talk about beer.
    I believe that beer, wine, and burbon is all the proof you need that there is a God.
    He knew that life was going to be a challenge so, He allowed mankind to come up with a variety of drinks, beer, wine, or burbon, maybe even a little herb because he wanted us to be happy.
    Cheers!!
    Fuck it, I'll change the title to BEER
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,153
    edited January 14
    RYME said:
    Down here in the USA I can deal with pretty much any of the water beers.
    I like Coors, Budweiser and Miller.
    I like pretty much every craft/micro brews I've ever tried except for the sweet ones that taste like hard maple syrup don't like those to much.
    But my favorite beer of all time comes from Lithuania better known buy Lithuanians as Lietuva.
    Svturys is my favorite Beer of all time.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Švyturys
    Hugh freaking Dillon had the Concept of God thread going for a while & I poured a lot of energy into that thread so I'm spent as far as that goes., but I can talk about beer.
    I believe that beer, wine, and burbon is all the proof you need that there is a God.
    He knew that life was going to be a challenge so, He allowed mankind to come up with a variety of drinks, beer, wine, or burbon, maybe even a little herb because he wanted us to be happy.
    Cheers!!
    Fuck it, I'll change the title to BEER
    I was trying to go Light, or Lite here depending on which beer you prefer.
    I wasn't trying to make a shithole out of your thread.   =)
    If you want to know how much I love our Lord & Savior & about how Real God is to me, read Hugh freaking Dillon's thread Concept of God.  I put up a lot of good information there if you are undecided or skeptical.  I just didn't want to spell it all out again here.
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