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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,201
    edited December 2017
    Unless Aaron Rodgers wins 5 or more super bowl rings, nobody’s going to be talking about him in 10 years. Look at Marino. Look at Kelley. Stats are fine but unless you bring the hardware, they’re meaningless. Ask any of those QBs if they’d trade stats for a SB ring and see what they say.
    I think people did talk about Marino a lot until all of his records were broke. Plus he had no rings at all, one goes a long way. And I don’t know what points everyone else is trying to make but I called Brady the GOAT, and he probably will be talked about more in the future than Rodgers. I just think that Aaron Rodgers is better at playing the position of quarterback than Brady or anyone else, and it’s not close. 
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,582
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.

    Manning had a few skill players here and there, but mostly those Colts team were totally dependent on him, and there weren’t many game where he had an opportunity and blew it. He never had a great head coach and he was the oc. 

    Brady’s 5 wins are courtesy of Belichek’s and Pete Carrols coaching, Vinatieri’s leg and aat miniumim well rounded Pats roster.
    Boom. System QB
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,201
    I think you have to give Brady a little more credit than that. I’d say with a slightly above average QB, maybe like a Philip Rivers, BB wins 2 or 3 Super Bowls instead of 5. 
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,582
    RiotZact said:
    I think you have to give Brady a little more credit than that. I’d say with a slightly above average QB, maybe like a Philip Rivers, BB wins 2 or 3 Super Bowls instead of 5. 
    Slightly above average QB
    Well above average toolbag
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,139
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.

    Manning had a few skill players here and there, but mostly those Colts team were totally dependent on him, and there weren’t many game where he had an opportunity and blew it. He never had a great head coach and he was the oc. 

    Brady’s 5 wins are courtesy of Belichek’s and Pete Carrols coaching, Vinatieri’s leg and aat miniumim well rounded Pats roster.
    Boom. System QB

    Just like Joe Montana. Couple of scrubs!
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,722
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.

    Manning had a few skill players here and there, but mostly those Colts team were totally dependent on him, and there weren’t many game where he had an opportunity and blew it. He never had a great head coach and he was the oc. 

    Brady’s 5 wins are courtesy of Belichek’s and Pete Carrols coaching, Vinatieri’s leg and aat miniumim well rounded Pats roster.
    Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne weren't too shabby.  He's clearly one of the best ever, but his postseason record is just not good.  
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,201
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.

    Manning had a few skill players here and there, but mostly those Colts team were totally dependent on him, and there weren’t many game where he had an opportunity and blew it. He never had a great head coach and he was the oc. 

    Brady’s 5 wins are courtesy of Belichek’s and Pete Carrols coaching, Vinatieri’s leg and aat miniumim well rounded Pats roster.
    Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne weren't too shabby.  He's clearly one of the best ever, but his postseason record is just not good.  
    I hate looking at at playoff records, it penalizes you for making the playoffs but not going all the way. You’re better off just not making the playoffs at all so it doesn’t hurt your playoff record. Eli is the most obvious example. His playoff record is really good because he only made the playoffs a handful of times but won it all twice. It also penalizes you for getting a bye week, one less game to add to your win column. 
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,582
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.

    Manning had a few skill players here and there, but mostly those Colts team were totally dependent on him, and there weren’t many game where he had an opportunity and blew it. He never had a great head coach and he was the oc. 

    Brady’s 5 wins are courtesy of Belichek’s and Pete Carrols coaching, Vinatieri’s leg and aat miniumim well rounded Pats roster.
    Boom. System QB

    Just like Joe Montana. Couple of scrubs!
    Buncha frauds.  System QBs. Brady has BB and Joe Montana has a revolutionary offense under Bill Walsh.  

  • gregkitefangregkitefan Posts: 1,115
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.

    Manning had a few skill players here and there, but mostly those Colts team were totally dependent on him, and there weren’t many game where he had an opportunity and blew it. He never had a great head coach and he was the oc. 

    Brady’s 5 wins are courtesy of Belichek’s and Pete Carrols coaching, Vinatieri’s leg and aat miniumim well rounded Pats roster.
    Brady never played under Pete Carroll.

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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,141
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.

    Manning had a few skill players here and there, but mostly those Colts team were totally dependent on him, and there weren’t many game where he had an opportunity and blew it. He never had a great head coach and he was the oc. 

    Brady’s 5 wins are courtesy of Belichek’s and Pete Carrols coaching, Vinatieri’s leg and aat miniumim well rounded Pats roster.
    Brady never played under Pete Carroll.

    I think he meant Seattle not running it in with Lynch
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  • Jason P said:
    Fact:  Brady is good friends with President Trump

    Lol

    Halifax... it's got to grind your gears just a little bit that Brady and Trump are real chums (good pals according to Trump) eh?
    Trump tells 5.6 lies a day on average. Why would anyone believe that? 
    Fair enough lol
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  • Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    Jason P said:
    Fact:  Brady is good friends with President Trump

    Lol

    Halifax... it's got to grind your gears just a little bit that Brady and Trump are real chums (good pals according to Trump) eh?
    Trump tells 5.6 lies a day on average. Why would anyone believe that? 
    Fake news. 
    Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
    Fuckus rules all
    Rob
    Seattle
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,380
    brady, trump and kraft.....bros.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
    Fuckus rules all
    Rob
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,121
    Jason P said:
    Fact:  Brady is good friends with President Trump

    Lol

    Halifax... it's got to grind your gears just a little bit that Brady and Trump are real chums (good pals according to Trump) eh?
    Trump tells 5.6 lies a day on average. Why would anyone believe that? 
    Ok ....

    meanwhile ..



    https://youtube.com/watch?v=NnHP216fnBQ
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    Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
    Fuckus rules all
    Rob
    Seattle
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,121
    edited December 2017
    Don't make me break out the Make America Great Again pics.  Halifax, your hero is a ground zero Trump supporter.  From the very beginning.  And still is.  

    Trump / Patriots / Brady / Belichek / Kraft

    wonder if they are a bunch of Alabama hoots?


  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,121
    FAKE NEWS!  (Pats fan with their teams association with Trump). Deny!
  • Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    Meanwhile, the second greatest (behind Montana). 

    Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
    Fuckus rules all
    Rob
    Seattle
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,380
    halifax is freaking out.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Going to the White House hardly assumes your friends with the president and seeing three pics of Brady with Trump hardly makes them friends. Yea, Brady’s support of trump disgusts me and when I have time I’ll search the FEC filings to see how great of a friend he is. However, I can separate play on the field from politics. Rapeselburger disgusts me more though. Settled a rape case but “he’s great.”
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  • And let’s not forget T-bagging Manning.
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    Deflecting won’t work. 

    Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
    Fuckus rules all
    Rob
    Seattle
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    Notice the hand on the shoulder. 
    Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
    Fuckus rules all
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    Seattle
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,586
    Montana is GOAT.  
    Yes, I'm a Niners fan.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
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  • Notice the hand on the shoulder. 
    I wonder how good a friend Montana is with Trump? Any pics of Montana leaning in, arm around Trump, biiiiiiiig smiles? Hmmmm.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,139
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.

    Manning had a few skill players here and there, but mostly those Colts team were totally dependent on him, and there weren’t many game where he had an opportunity and blew it. He never had a great head coach and he was the oc. 

    Brady’s 5 wins are courtesy of Belichek’s and Pete Carrols coaching, Vinatieri’s leg and aat miniumim well rounded Pats roster.
    Boom. System QB

    Just like Joe Montana. Couple of scrubs!
    Buncha frauds.  System QBs. Brady has BB and Joe Montana has a revolutionary offense under Bill Walsh.  

    They should remove Montana’s name from the hall of fame and replace it with the system. 
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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,624
    The state of Montana should be renamed BRADY IS THE GOAT
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  • Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    Kraft loves him a good dictator. I see where Brady gets it from. 

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