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  • JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Time was awasting, Franken had to announce today, interesting thou is that he will be stepping down "in the coming weeks". This could all change next week. Anyway the Moore election is Tuesday, today's headlines will bury the Wray testimony and it won't overshadow tomorrow's breaking news top story, just in time for the weekend. 
    The democrats went with expediency and didn't want an ethics investigation to derail Trump this or Trump that, this being sexual accusations and that being Russia Russia Russia.
    Calculated move IMO. 
    What is it about politics that isn’t “calculated?”
    moral compasses
    Ha! You mean like going to church clutching a bible? Or wearing a flag lapel pin? Or speaking out against marriage equality or if you prefer, gay marriage? Or speaking favorably of white nationalists? Those things aren’t calculated?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited December 2017
    JC29856 said:
    this is why Conyers and Franken were forced out.
    I wonder what tomorrow will bring?



    the ultimate whataboutism!

    Franken: "There is some irony that I am leaving while a man who bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office, and a man who preyed on young girls runs for Senate with the full support of his party."
    It sure as hell won't be orange bafoon resigning over all the women he has assaulted because as you said he's a 70 yr old who probably gropped a few women the key word you used was probably no or am i wrong , so lets see we have three Democrats that have quit in the face of these scandals which are child games compared to what the orange bafoon is accused of by multiple women and no they are not going anywhere as matter of fact they are revered like heros by their supporters ....Moore is a child molester their is no denying that fact ...
    Let's never forget that two of the accusations against Trump were of child rape.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    PJ_Soul said:
    JC29856 said:
    this is why Conyers and Franken were forced out.
    I wonder what tomorrow will bring?



    the ultimate whataboutism!

    Franken: "There is some irony that I am leaving while a man who bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office, and a man who preyed on young girls runs for Senate with the full support of his party."
    It sure as hell won't be orange bafoon resigning over all the women he has assaulted because as you said he's a 70 yr old who probably gropped a few women the key word you used was probably no or am i wrong , so lets see we have three Democrats that have quit in the face of these scandals which are child games compared to what the orange bafoon is accused of by multiple women and no they are not going anywhere as matter of fact they are revered like heros by their supporters ....Moore is a child molester their is no denying that fact ...
    Let's never forget that two of the accusations against Trump were of child rape.
    I'm shocked that more people are not harping on this ^^^ he's like the worst predator and now he's ruining the world i mean ruining not runing ....
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Time was awasting, Franken had to announce today, interesting thou is that he will be stepping down "in the coming weeks". This could all change next week. Anyway the Moore election is Tuesday, today's headlines will bury the Wray testimony and it won't overshadow tomorrow's breaking news top story, just in time for the weekend. 
    The democrats went with expediency and didn't want an ethics investigation to derail Trump this or Trump that, this being sexual accusations and that being Russia Russia Russia.
    Calculated move IMO. 
    i'd add that now the Democrats have this card to really push against any Republican who's up for reelection next yr democrats have drawn a line and it's zero tolerance unlike the GOP who are standing by a sexual predator orange bafoon and child molester Moore this will be their calling card against all republicans , the democrats at least have the balls to call out one or as many predators that are in their party ...GOP no balls zilch nada all the accusers are lying as far as they are concerned ...
    GOP are playing calculated politics
    Ok so you believe that its a smart move to stand with the two perverts one in the WH the other to be elceted to the senate am i correct in my evaluation of your post ? 
    you couldn't be more wrong.never even remotely suggested such a thing.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,600
    edited December 2017
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    this is why Conyers and Franken were forced out.
    I wonder what tomorrow will bring?



    the ultimate whataboutism!

    Franken: "There is some irony that I am leaving while a man who bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office, and a man who preyed on young girls runs for Senate with the full support of his party."
    It sure as hell won't be orange bafoon resigning over all the women he has assaulted because as you said he's a 70 yr old who probably gropped a few women the key word you used was probably no or am i wrong , so lets see we have three Democrats that have quit in the face of these scandals which are child games compared to what the orange bafoon is accused of by multiple women and no they are not going anywhere as matter of fact they are revered like heros by their supporters ....Moore is a child molester their is no denying that fact ...
    one of the accusers thinks Franken should recalibrate his moral compass.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/fraken-accuser-justice-to-me-would-be-him-owning-up-to-what-he-did-1111657027540
    I'm not a victim shamer but the picture she took with him doesn't seem to suggest that he just got done cupping her breast.  Obviously the person taking the picture would have seen it as well right?  There appear to be other people there as well.

    Not saying it didn't happen...but if you were a female and it happened to you wouldn't you walk away without a picture?
    I agree.
    Just talking about the photos and the photos only, forgive me but I didn't find anything too egregious with either picture.
    the airplane photo looked to me like he wasn't even touching the women. it doesn't make it right, it's still disrespectful but not resignation worthy. he apologized, he thought it was funny.
    Yeah the airplane pic was bogus.  He shouldn't have done it but he clearly wasn't touching her...and she was wearing a flak jacket so her boobs were under an inch of metal.

    I still think he should resign.  Only because the climate is so severe that the respect for the office would be affected.  

    I am glad that he pointed out the irony of his resignation vs Moore/Trump.  
    Weren't there six other women that also accused him of groping or attempted kissing?  That seems like a big enough number in my book.  If you are 50% of Trump accusers, you're out.  
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    this is why Conyers and Franken were forced out.
    I wonder what tomorrow will bring?



    the ultimate whataboutism!

    Franken: "There is some irony that I am leaving while a man who bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office, and a man who preyed on young girls runs for Senate with the full support of his party."
    It sure as hell won't be orange bafoon resigning over all the women he has assaulted because as you said he's a 70 yr old who probably gropped a few women the key word you used was probably no or am i wrong , so lets see we have three Democrats that have quit in the face of these scandals which are child games compared to what the orange bafoon is accused of by multiple women and no they are not going anywhere as matter of fact they are revered like heros by their supporters ....Moore is a child molester their is no denying that fact ...
    one of the accusers thinks Franken should recalibrate his moral compass.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/fraken-accuser-justice-to-me-would-be-him-owning-up-to-what-he-did-1111657027540
    I'm not a victim shamer but the picture she took with him doesn't seem to suggest that he just got done cupping her breast.  Obviously the person taking the picture would have seen it as well right?  There appear to be other people there as well.

    Not saying it didn't happen...but if you were a female and it happened to you wouldn't you walk away without a picture?
    I agree.
    Just talking about the photos and the photos only, forgive me but I didn't find anything too egregious with either picture.
    the airplane photo looked to me like he wasn't even touching the women. it doesn't make it right, it's still disrespectful but not resignation worthy. he apologized, he thought it was funny.
    Yeah the airplane pic was bogus.  He shouldn't have done it but he clearly wasn't touching her...and she was wearing a flak jacket so her boobs were under an inch of metal.

    I still think he should resign.  Only because the climate is so severe that the respect for the office would be affected.  

    I am glad that he pointed out the irony of his resignation vs Moore/Trump.  
    Weren't there six other women that also accused him of groping or attempted kissing?  That seems like a big enough number in my book.  If you are 50% of Trump accusers, you're out.  

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/sen-al-frankens-accusers-accusations-made/story?id=51406862
    1. Leeann Tweeden

    2. Lindsay Menz
    “My husband steps away from us to take the photo. I stand next to Sen. Franken and he pulls me into him and then he moves his hand to my butt,”
    3. Anonymous Accuser No. 1
    "My story is eerily similar to Lindsay Menz’s story," the first woman told Huffington Post. "He grabbed my buttocks during a photo op."
    4. Anonymous Accuser No. 2
    said that Franken cupped her butt during a Democratic fundraiser in Minneapolis in 2008.
    The woman said that he suggested they visit the bathroom together, the Huffington Post reported.
    5. Stephanie Kemplin
    Kemplin told CNN that Franken groped her breast while posing for a photo
    6. Anonymous Accuser No. 3, an elected official
    The woman says Franken was touring with the radio show that he hosted at the time and taped a show in her community. She appeared on the program as a guest and she says the kiss allegedly happened on stage in the theater after it ended when she went to shake his hand.
    "He took it [her hand] and leaned toward me with his mouth open. I turned my head away from him and he landed a wet, open-mouthed kiss awkwardly on my cheek," she said.
    7. Anonymous Accuser No. 4, a former congressional aide
    she ducked to avoid Franken kissing her as she tried to leave the radio studio.
    8. Tina Dupuy
    "We posed for the shot. He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh. I froze. Then he squeezed. At least twice," 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Time was awasting, Franken had to announce today, interesting thou is that he will be stepping down "in the coming weeks". This could all change next week. Anyway the Moore election is Tuesday, today's headlines will bury the Wray testimony and it won't overshadow tomorrow's breaking news top story, just in time for the weekend. 
    The democrats went with expediency and didn't want an ethics investigation to derail Trump this or Trump that, this being sexual accusations and that being Russia Russia Russia.
    Calculated move IMO. 
    i'd add that now the Democrats have this card to really push against any Republican who's up for reelection next yr democrats have drawn a line and it's zero tolerance unlike the GOP who are standing by a sexual predator orange bafoon and child molester Moore this will be their calling card against all republicans , the democrats at least have the balls to call out one or as many predators that are in their party ...GOP no balls zilch nada all the accusers are lying as far as they are concerned ...
    GOP are playing calculated politics
    Ok so you believe that its a smart move to stand with the two perverts one in the WH the other to be elceted to the senate am i correct in my evaluation of your post ? 
    you couldn't be more wrong.never even remotely suggested such a thing.
    Ok i'm trying to understand your logic maybe i'm not as smart as you sorry about my misconception of your post ..
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    edited December 2017
    CM189191 said:
    All repubes, I can hope? I can see the tearful, “I have sinned against you” proclamations and prayer circles on the house floor. 
     
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    CM189191 said:
    All repubes, I can hope? I can see the tearful, “I have sinned against you” proclamations and prayer circles on the house floor. 
     
    If they are indeed guilty then I don't care if they're repub or dem. 

    But it's pretty clear that the Rs won't offer even a limited apology or admit to sinning unless they're caught red handed. 

    (And can I just say I liked "rePUBES"? Snicker) 
     
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,517
    Republicans won't quit.  Their base doesn't care.
  • CM189191 said:
    All repubes, I can hope? I can see the tearful, “I have sinned against you” proclamations and prayer circles on the house floor. 
     
    If they are indeed guilty then I don't care if they're repub or dem. 

    But it's pretty clear that the Rs won't offer even a limited apology or admit to sinning unless they're caught red handed. 

    (And can I just say I liked "rePUBES"? Snicker) 
     
    Oh I don’t care which party they’re from, as like you, if they’re guilty, they gotta go. But I wouldn’t be honest if I didn’t tell you that I hope it’s at least 10-1 repubes to dems so we can get the house back and begin impeachment hearings based on factual evidence. And wouldn’t that be ironic just desserts for Trump for picking the scab off of an old wound by feeding the debate with his endorsement of Roy Moore?

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    CM189191 said:
    All repubes, I can hope? I can see the tearful, “I have sinned against you” proclamations and prayer circles on the house floor. 
     
    If they are indeed guilty then I don't care if they're repub or dem. 

    But it's pretty clear that the Rs won't offer even a limited apology or admit to sinning unless they're caught red handed. 

    (And can I just say I liked "rePUBES"? Snicker) 
     
    Oh I don’t care which party they’re from, as like you, if they’re guilty, they gotta go. But I wouldn’t be honest if I didn’t tell you that I hope it’s at least 10-1 repubes to dems so we can get the house back and begin impeachment hearings based on factual evidence. And wouldn’t that be ironic just desserts for Trump for picking the scab off of an old wound by feeding the debate with his endorsement of Roy Moore?

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    Smellyman said:
    Republicans won't quit.  Their base doesn't care.
    Nope
    As long as they are pro-life then they have support.
    No matter what they've  done.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,517
    Smellyman said:
    Republicans won't quit.  Their base doesn't care.
    Nope
    As long as they are pro-life then they have support.
    No matter what they've  done.
    That's not fair, they have to love guns and pretend to love Jesus too.

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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    Smellyman said:
    Republicans won't quit.  Their base doesn't care.
    ...assuming their representatives were diddling around with members of the opposite sex.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,195
    Since the sexual misconduct thread is closed and Donny is Roy's new pal, this can go here.

    https://deadspin.com/we-live-in-hell-1821081552
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    tbergs said:
    Since the sexual misconduct thread is closed and Donny is Roy's new pal, this can go here.

    https://deadspin.com/we-live-in-hell-1821081552
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,600
    Trent Franks is out.. so I wouldn't say it's all Republicans that won't go.  It's the Trumpists.  They are just out and out liars and a stain on our country.  His is a weird one... at this point.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rep-trent-franks-of-arizona-is-expected-to-resign/2017/12/07/479d156a-db9f-11e7-b859-fb0995360725_story.html?utm_term=.65d0c2f157ec
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,129
    CM189191 said:
    isn't it the media's job to expose things like this?

    we want responsibility and ethics in government and most of this stuff is silenced.

    who knew that the president can't drain the swamp? it is going to take the media and an avalanche of people coming forward and hopefully result in a bunch of resignations.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Fuck my president...
  • tbergs said:
    Since the sexual misconduct thread is closed and Donny is Roy's new pal, this can go here.

    https://deadspin.com/we-live-in-hell-1821081552
    Fucking A this whole year has been insane ..
    What are you talking about? It’s been a completely normal, normal, normal year. There’s not one shred, shred of a shred of evidence of collusion with Russia, Russia, Russia. Yup, insane, I know.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    my2hands said:
    Fuck my president...
    phrasing
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,416
    This country is seriously fucked.  Congratulations, USA.  You played yo'self.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    This country is seriously fucked.  Congratulations, USA.  You played yo'self.
    if not today, do you have a day or date you came to this realization? what event or events finally convinced you?
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,416
    JC29856 said:
    This country is seriously fucked.  Congratulations, USA.  You played yo'self.
    if not today, do you have a day or date you came to this realization? what event or events finally convinced you?
    The Reagan administration.
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,416
    But even then, and since then, I've always held onto a small tinge of hope that republicans held at least a thread of country over party.  In this past year, they've sold themselves the fuck out completely.  They're off the god damn rails.  They are ALL 100% undeniably party over country and they don't give a flying fuck about you, me, or anyone but the big, bold R.  We've been fucked for a while, but it was the type of fucked I always felt we could recover from.  I'm not so sure we'll ever overcome the complete fucking insanity that is today's Republican party and its idiot fucking followers.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,139
    edited December 2017
    tbergs said:
    Since the sexual misconduct thread is closed and Donny is Roy's new pal, this can go here.

    https://deadspin.com/we-live-in-hell-1821081552


    The amount of brain dead dummies who would actually prioritize this over anything else makes me weep for humanity.


    Fucking idiots.

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