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Scuff marks on the album sleeves in the vinyl box??

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,919
edited December 2017 in The Porch
Just picked up my box set from the post office.

There are lots of scuff marks on pretty much all the (non plastic wrapped) album sleeves. At a first glance it's on at least Binaural, Yield, Avocado and Riot Act. These are new albums. and they are tight in the box so it couldn't have happened during shipping or something like that. People putting them in must have done so even with clearly damaged sleeves.

Anyone else have had this experience and this damage on the sleeves in the box?
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  • mookieblalockmookieblalock Posts: 3,177
    I did to both avocado and Ten. I haven’t contacted 10c yet, but I’m planning on it.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,139
    shelf wear from sitting on the shelf in 10c’s warehouse? Totally lame!


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  • TH113769TH113769 Posts: 434
    My Riot Act, Binaural and Self Titled all had ring wear and best of all at least one record in each album was warped.  Kind of crazy.  
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  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    TH113769 said:
    My Riot Act, Binaural and Self Titled all had ring wear and best of all at least one record in each album was warped.  Kind of crazy.  
    Yea, I wish these had been packaged in loose bags. The tight shrink in addition to the large thick books are a perfect recipe for warping and ring wear.
  • ShynerShyner Posts: 1,226
    Dang. Seems like this shouldn't happen. 

    It's not PJ's fault though

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  • PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,583
    My Vs. was super creased and indented along the spine. Never thought to ask for replacement, guess I should. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,919
    Maybe hard to see on small images, But:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • drummerboy_73drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    Didn't get the complete box set, but got Ten, Binaural, Riot Act, and Avocado - all had some minor warping and the center holes were very tight going onto my turntable. Also, corner of Avocado jacket was bent. Was the only one, so obviously happened prior to packing, as the box they arrived in was fine. Sent this picture to 10C and they said they'll replace it contingent on me sending them pictures of it showing I cut it up/destroyed it. Kind of lame that I have to have two loose records while waiting for the replacement. Does an empty, bent up LP jacket have some sort of resale value?!


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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,297
    drummerboy_73 said:
    Didn't get the complete box set, but got Ten, Binaural, Riot Act, and Avocado - all had some minor warping and the center holes were very tight going onto my turntable. Also, corner of Avocado jacket was bent. Was the only one, so obviously happened prior to packing, as the box they arrived in was fine. Sent this picture to 10C and they said they'll replace it contingent on me sending them pictures of it showing I cut it up/destroyed it. Kind of lame that I have to have two loose records while waiting for the replacement. Does an empty, bent up LP jacket have some sort of resale value?!


    Aside from vaults, 10c packaging of records is not very good. I've received similar in the past
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,919
    If you look at my pictures above, would you accept that kind of damage on new albums?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • NamiNami Newfoundland Posts: 5,989
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you look at my pictures above, would you accept that kind of damage on new albums?

    thats sucks, if they were your playing copies I'd let be, if saving for collection and putting away then I prob send an email.  After its all said and done, prob cost you more $$, and good music shouldn't be destroyed.   
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,507
    edited December 2017
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you look at my pictures above, would you accept that kind of damage on new albums?
    I wouldn't love it, but I would just live with it, especially since I have no intention of selling my records. If someone is buying with the intent of maintaining resale value, that's another story. I'm not saying you should accept it - I'm just saying that I would. That said, it's still not actually acceptable that 10C is sending out merchandise in this condition (I'm also not really surprised - they have so many issue with quality control on their albums, one way or another).
    I would be less willing to accept the kind of damage drummerboy73 posted though. That's too much. That kind of compromises the integrity of the jacket's purpose.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,175
    PJ_Soul said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you look at my pictures above, would you accept that kind of damage on new albums?
    I wouldn't love it, but I would just live with it, especially since I have no intention of selling my records. If someone is buying with the intent of maintaining resale value, that's another story. I'm not saying you should accept it - I'm just saying that I would. That said, it's still not actually acceptable that 10C is sending out merchandise in this condition (I'm also not really surprised - they have so many issue with quality control on their albums, one way or another).
    I would be less willing to accept the kind of damage drummerboy73 posted though. That's too much. That kind of compromises the integrity of the jacket's purpose.


    my copy of Self Titled was scratched to hell.

    and the liner notes looked like Santos ran out of toilet paper and wiped his ass with them.

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,507
    lolobugg said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you look at my pictures above, would you accept that kind of damage on new albums?
    I wouldn't love it, but I would just live with it, especially since I have no intention of selling my records. If someone is buying with the intent of maintaining resale value, that's another story. I'm not saying you should accept it - I'm just saying that I would. That said, it's still not actually acceptable that 10C is sending out merchandise in this condition (I'm also not really surprised - they have so many issue with quality control on their albums, one way or another).
    I would be less willing to accept the kind of damage drummerboy73 posted though. That's too much. That kind of compromises the integrity of the jacket's purpose.


    my copy of Self Titled was scratched to hell.

    and the liner notes looked like Santos ran out of toilet paper and wiped his ass with them.

    :lol: Well that is definitely not acceptable!
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,139
    lolobugg said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you look at my pictures above, would you accept that kind of damage on new albums?
    I wouldn't love it, but I would just live with it, especially since I have no intention of selling my records. If someone is buying with the intent of maintaining resale value, that's another story. I'm not saying you should accept it - I'm just saying that I would. That said, it's still not actually acceptable that 10C is sending out merchandise in this condition (I'm also not really surprised - they have so many issue with quality control on their albums, one way or another).
    I would be less willing to accept the kind of damage drummerboy73 posted though. That's too much. That kind of compromises the integrity of the jacket's purpose.


    my copy of Self Titled was scratched to hell.

    and the liner notes looked like Santos ran out of toilet paper and wiped his ass with them.

    I would smell them before you jump to conclusions.  
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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,175
    PJ_Soul said:
    lolobugg said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you look at my pictures above, would you accept that kind of damage on new albums?
    I wouldn't love it, but I would just live with it, especially since I have no intention of selling my records. If someone is buying with the intent of maintaining resale value, that's another story. I'm not saying you should accept it - I'm just saying that I would. That said, it's still not actually acceptable that 10C is sending out merchandise in this condition (I'm also not really surprised - they have so many issue with quality control on their albums, one way or another).
    I would be less willing to accept the kind of damage drummerboy73 posted though. That's too much. That kind of compromises the integrity of the jacket's purpose.


    my copy of Self Titled was scratched to hell.

    and the liner notes looked like Santos ran out of toilet paper and wiped his ass with them.

    :lol: Well that is definitely not acceptable!
    Well, the other two were in excellent condition.
    so 2 outta 3 ain't bad i guess.

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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 1,440
    I don't see any reason for you to talk shit - literally - about Santos L. Halper.
    Get a grip, folks.
    If you received defective merchandise simply contact Ten Club and tell them about it.
  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,175
    edited December 2017
    shecky said:
    I don't see any reason for you to talk shit - literally - about Santos L. Halper.
    Get a grip, folks.
    If you received defective merchandise simply contact Ten Club and tell them about it.


    dude. it was a joke.... I love Santos.

    since we don't know what goes on in the 10club warehouse I come up with these crazy thoughts.

    Santos does his best with limited help. I have even joked with him in PMs.

    I don't want anyone to think that I was pissed at him.

    all the defects were in the manufacturing process.

    just trying to bring back some humour and fun that has been missing on these boards since about 2015.

    Post edited by lolobugg on

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,961
    lolobugg said:
    shecky said:
    I don't see any reason for you to talk shit - literally - about Santos L. Halper.
    Get a grip, folks.
    If you received defective merchandise simply contact Ten Club and tell them about it.


    dude. it was a joke.... I love Santos.

    since we don't know what goes on in the 10club warehouse I come up with these crazy thoughts.

    Santos does his best with limited help. I have even joked with him in PMs.

    I don't want anyone to think that I was pissed at him.

    all the defects were in the manufacturing process.

    just trying to bring back some humour and fun that has been missing on these boards since about 2015.

    I applaud any and all poop, fart and dick jokes.
  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,175
    edited December 2017
    tempo_n_groove said:
    lolobugg said:
    shecky said:
    I don't see any reason for you to talk shit - literally - about Santos L. Halper.
    Get a grip, folks.
    If you received defective merchandise simply contact Ten Club and tell them about it.


    dude. it was a joke.... I love Santos.

    since we don't know what goes on in the 10club warehouse I come up with these crazy thoughts.

    Santos does his best with limited help. I have even joked with him in PMs.

    I don't want anyone to think that I was pissed at him.

    all the defects were in the manufacturing process.

    just trying to bring back some humour and fun that has been missing on these boards since about 2015.

    I applaud any and all poop, fart and dick jokes.


    see this guy knows me ^

    and Santos probably would prefer the pennants to the liner notes anyway.

    softer

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    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

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