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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    RYME said:
    jeffbr said:
    Exactly right, PJSoul & Beavers. Roger Waters has never been shy about his political views, and just about every album (whether solo or Pink Floyd) contains elements of that. So it would be shocking to see a hyper-political artist/band not share those views with the audience. I've been a massive Pink Floyd fan since the 70's and find that I'm nearly Amused to Death by people just now figuring out that Roger has something to say. Did any of the people who were surprised listen to his latest album "Is This The Life We Really Want?" He's pretty fucking blatant and obvious about where he stands, and his loathing for Trump. As Roger suggested, people who don't like it should probably just "Go see Katy Perry."

    I find it amusing that you think the question I asked suggests that I just now noticed Pink Floyd's stance on things. Late to the party?  My elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor.  Ok, But I thought Ed's routine with the W mask and glittery sport coat was hilarious. And the rage at the end of Daughter/Tag if you will on the Showbox DVD I thought was powerful.
    Katie Perry endorsed Hillary, so I don't get that response.
    I'm not a Trump supporter.  Just asked a question.  But to put up pics that make him look like a drag queen just isn't funny to me.  You can have something to say like Ed does, or you can be rediculous.
    I like what Roger is doing, but his delivery is a bit skewed. I'm not sure shaming a drag queen sends the right message, actually, I know it doesn't, unless it's not a drag queen, and it's more meant as lipstick on a pig or something similar, but I haven't seen the show. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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    RYME said:
    jeffbr said:
    Exactly right, PJSoul & Beavers. Roger Waters has never been shy about his political views, and just about every album (whether solo or Pink Floyd) contains elements of that. So it would be shocking to see a hyper-political artist/band not share those views with the audience. I've been a massive Pink Floyd fan since the 70's and find that I'm nearly Amused to Death by people just now figuring out that Roger has something to say. Did any of the people who were surprised listen to his latest album "Is This The Life We Really Want?" He's pretty fucking blatant and obvious about where he stands, and his loathing for Trump. As Roger suggested, people who don't like it should probably just "Go see Katy Perry."

     And the rage at the end of Daughter/Tag if you will on the Showbox DVD I thought was powerful.
    I like what Roger is doing, but his delivery is a bit skewed. I'm not sure shaming a drag queen sends the right message, actually, I know it doesn't, unless it's not a drag queen, and it's more meant as lipstick on a pig or something similar, but I haven't seen the show. 
    Start at 1:07.  Holy shit.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlHZfxuaRtA

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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    President Trump’s list of false and misleading claims tops 1,000
    In early August, the president crossed a new benchmark — over 1,000 false or misleading claims. According to The Fact Checker's calculation, he now averages 4.9 claims per day
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,191
    PJ_Soul said:
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    I attended the vote for change tour for a few shows.  They were great and not what I thought it would be.  Something tells me though that if Pearl Jam was announcing their next tour as an anti-Trump tour w/ all the bells and whistles flashing it would be a first time that some, actually many 10c members would think twice about putting in for tix.  No one wants to spend money and vacation time on a night out to protest President Trump.  That's what marching is for.
    Nobody suggested that Pearl Jam should or would dedicate an entire tour to Trump. That would be totally bizarre. It's not bizarre for Roger Waters though. Him doing that is about the least surprising thing ever.
    Why would it be so bizarre in a world where they did the VFC tour?
    A tour trying to get out the vote is a lot different than a tour dedicated to trashing one individual IMO. I fully acknowledge and appreciate that PJ has been very political (I wish they still were - they've largely dropped that in recent years), but making an entire tour about Trump would be something totally unheard of for Pearl Jam, especially now, since they've become so much more timid about such things.
    I saw Roger Waters in Philly a few weeks ago. It's really only during the song Pigs that the imagery blatantly mocks Trump.  I would hardly say his entire tour is about mocking trump. Oh and it was probably the best Non-PJ show i've ever seen.  It was awesome.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    edited August 2017
    pjhawks said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I attended the vote for change tour for a few shows.  They were great and not what I thought it would be.  Something tells me though that if Pearl Jam was announcing their next tour as an anti-Trump tour w/ all the bells and whistles flashing it would be a first time that some, actually many 10c members would think twice about putting in for tix.  No one wants to spend money and vacation time on a night out to protest President Trump.  That's what marching is for.
    Nobody suggested that Pearl Jam should or would dedicate an entire tour to Trump. That would be totally bizarre. It's not bizarre for Roger Waters though. Him doing that is about the least surprising thing ever.
    Why would it be so bizarre in a world where they did the VFC tour?
    A tour trying to get out the vote is a lot different than a tour dedicated to trashing one individual IMO. I fully acknowledge and appreciate that PJ has been very political (I wish they still were - they've largely dropped that in recent years), but making an entire tour about Trump would be something totally unheard of for Pearl Jam, especially now, since they've become so much more timid about such things.
    I saw Roger Waters in Philly a few weeks ago. It's really only during the song Pigs that the imagery blatantly mocks Trump.  I would hardly say his entire tour is about mocking trump. Oh and it was probably the best Non-PJ show i've ever seen.  It was awesome.
    Sweet! I don't have tix, but perhaps I'll end up at his show in October anyway. I saw Pink Floyd about 25 years ago, and to this day it is still the most spectacular show I've ever seen.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,191
    PJ_Soul said:
    pjhawks said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I attended the vote for change tour for a few shows.  They were great and not what I thought it would be.  Something tells me though that if Pearl Jam was announcing their next tour as an anti-Trump tour w/ all the bells and whistles flashing it would be a first time that some, actually many 10c members would think twice about putting in for tix.  No one wants to spend money and vacation time on a night out to protest President Trump.  That's what marching is for.
    Nobody suggested that Pearl Jam should or would dedicate an entire tour to Trump. That would be totally bizarre. It's not bizarre for Roger Waters though. Him doing that is about the least surprising thing ever.
    Why would it be so bizarre in a world where they did the VFC tour?
    A tour trying to get out the vote is a lot different than a tour dedicated to trashing one individual IMO. I fully acknowledge and appreciate that PJ has been very political (I wish they still were - they've largely dropped that in recent years), but making an entire tour about Trump would be something totally unheard of for Pearl Jam, especially now, since they've become so much more timid about such things.
    I saw Roger Waters in Philly a few weeks ago. It's really only during the song Pigs that the imagery blatantly mocks Trump.  I would hardly say his entire tour is about mocking trump. Oh and it was probably the best Non-PJ show i've ever seen.  It was awesome.
    Sweet! I don't have tix, but perhaps I'll end up at his show in October anyway. I saw Pink Floyd about 25 years ago, and to this day it is still the most spectacular show I've ever seen.
    if you get a chance I would say take the opportunity to see it.  Roger is 73 now so not sure how much more touring he has in him although he looks great for his age. I had very high expectations going into the show and it was good or better than i expected.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    pjhawks said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    pjhawks said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I attended the vote for change tour for a few shows.  They were great and not what I thought it would be.  Something tells me though that if Pearl Jam was announcing their next tour as an anti-Trump tour w/ all the bells and whistles flashing it would be a first time that some, actually many 10c members would think twice about putting in for tix.  No one wants to spend money and vacation time on a night out to protest President Trump.  That's what marching is for.
    Nobody suggested that Pearl Jam should or would dedicate an entire tour to Trump. That would be totally bizarre. It's not bizarre for Roger Waters though. Him doing that is about the least surprising thing ever.
    Why would it be so bizarre in a world where they did the VFC tour?
    A tour trying to get out the vote is a lot different than a tour dedicated to trashing one individual IMO. I fully acknowledge and appreciate that PJ has been very political (I wish they still were - they've largely dropped that in recent years), but making an entire tour about Trump would be something totally unheard of for Pearl Jam, especially now, since they've become so much more timid about such things.
    I saw Roger Waters in Philly a few weeks ago. It's really only during the song Pigs that the imagery blatantly mocks Trump.  I would hardly say his entire tour is about mocking trump. Oh and it was probably the best Non-PJ show i've ever seen.  It was awesome.
    Sweet! I don't have tix, but perhaps I'll end up at his show in October anyway. I saw Pink Floyd about 25 years ago, and to this day it is still the most spectacular show I've ever seen.
    if you get a chance I would say take the opportunity to see it.  Roger is 73 now so not sure how much more touring he has in him although he looks great for his age. I had very high expectations going into the show and it was good or better than i expected.
    I would love to, but the ticket prices are completely out of control, unfortunately. The only way I'm seeing it is if a rich person (aka my brother in law, lol) intends to take me for free. :tongue:
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Donald Trump Just Claimed He Never Met Women Accusing Him of Sexual Harassment. That's Not True

    http://time.com/5060172/donald-trump-claimed-he-never-met-women-accusing-him-sexual-harassment-not-true/
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,610
    We don’t want his ADL (average daily lies) to fall below 5
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    edited December 2017
    Well it's about time some people finally decided it actually matters that Trump is a sexual predator.... Seems a little fucking late though.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,357
    dignin said:

    Donald Trump Just Claimed He Never Met Women Accusing Him of Sexual Harassment. That's Not True

    http://time.com/5060172/donald-trump-claimed-he-never-met-women-accusing-him-sexual-harassment-not-true/
    Does this surprise anyone?
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    I feel like a "Trump's Lies" thread shouldn't warrant 22 pages of discussion.  It should be one post: a link to his twitter account.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,538
    We don’t want his ADL (average daily lies) to fall below 5
    It will easily pass 6 soon
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    We don’t want his ADL (average daily lies) to fall below 5
    It will easily pass 6 soon
    He had more than 6 today in his speech to the FBI academy graduates.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,378
    Does he even know how to tell the truth?
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,538
    mfc2006 said:
    Does he even know how to tell the truth?
    He tells the best most terrific and amazing truths in the history of mankind ever
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    Guess who’s line is almost vertical? 


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    North Korea and Little Rocket Man are threats. Since Pence got stiffed and the South Koreans determined that they cannot rely on Team Trump Treason, Team Trump Treason has moved on. Or, Team Trump Treason is one dimensional and incapable of managing more than half a crisis at a time. Maybe Canada can step in? Brilliant.

    Bonus points for 3D and The Professor, who’s the US ambassador to South Korea as of 02/22/2018. Brillianter still.
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    North Korea and Little Rocket Man are threats. Since Pence got stiffed and the South Koreans determined that they cannot rely on Team Trump Treason, Team Trump Treason has moved on. Or, Team Trump Treason is one dimensional and incapable of managing more than half a crisis at a time. Maybe Canada can step in? Brilliant.

    Bonus points for 3D and The Professor, who’s the US ambassador to South Korea as of 02/22/2018. Brillianter still.
    Haha, I don't think Trudeau is ready. He's battling his own perception issues with his India trip.



    Maybe France can help?
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    Will catch up with Team Trump Treason. Team Mueller ain’t fucking around and no amount of smarmy “can’t we all get along” is going to derail Team Mueller’s pursuit of the truth. Connecting dots is what Team Mueller has for breakfast seven days a week.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/robert-mueller-profile/index.html
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    Let’s add Caravans of immigrants crossing the borders , trade deficit with China he exaggerated by $ 193 billion ..
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