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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Is that clip of the black kid being goaded into a punch over the course of two minutes is all you got holmes?  

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/neeex8/white-supremacy-has-taken-off-its-hood
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2017
    Tiki said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    Show some examples of it.
    I've seen plenty of the "other side".
    Examples of what?
    Show us all the examples of "Antifa" running amok actually causing problems in Charlottesville Virginia from last weekend.   I've seen plenty of examples alt-right white supremes and the KKK and the Nazis. Show me some antifa stomping on peoples rights from last weekend.  The violence on many sides...you know, what we're talking about.   


    whatthefuckingfuckyo
    Well, technically Antifa didn't even have the "right" to be there and were told multiple times by law enforcement to disperse less be arrested due to lack of permit.  Once again, though, Antifa having a higher moral ground against some dumbass Nazis is pretty non-substantial. That does not mean they are not violence enticing thugs as a group as seen in many other examples over the past year.  Their whole anarchist mentality is based on tearing up people's property and hurting people.  Stomping on rights...ever heard of property rights, the right to free speech, rule of law, etc?  All of these are things that Antifa communists appose.  They are political terrorists and media candy, nothing less, nothing more.  Pawns...
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    Show some examples of it.
    I've seen plenty of the "other side".
    Examples of what?
    Show us all the examples of "Antifa" running amok actually causing problems in Charlottesville Virginia from last weekend.   I've seen plenty of examples alt-right white supremes and the KKK and the Nazis. Show me some antifa stomping on peoples rights from last weekend.  The violence on many sides...you know, what we're talking about.   


    whatthefuckingfuckyo
    Well, technically Antifa didn't even have the "right" to be there and were told multiple times by law enforcement to disperse less be arrested due to lack of permit.  Once again, though, Antifa having a higher moral ground against some dumbass Nazis is pretty non-substantial. That does not mean they are not violence enticing thugs as a group as seen in many other examples over the past year.  Their whole anarchist mentality is based on tearing up people's property and hurting people.  Stomping on rights...ever heard of property rights, the right to free speech, rule of law, etc?  All of these are things that Antifa communists appose.  They are political terrorists and media candy, nothing less, nothing more.  Pawns...


    Show some.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2017
    Tiki said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    Show some examples of it.
    I've seen plenty of the "other side".
    Examples of what?
    Show us all the examples of "Antifa" running amok actually causing problems in Charlottesville Virginia from last weekend.   I've seen plenty of examples alt-right white supremes and the KKK and the Nazis. Show me some antifa stomping on peoples rights from last weekend.  The violence on many sides...you know, what we're talking about.   


    whatthefuckingfuckyo
    Well, technically Antifa didn't even have the "right" to be there and were told multiple times by law enforcement to disperse less be arrested due to lack of permit.  Once again, though, Antifa having a higher moral ground against some dumbass Nazis is pretty non-substantial. That does not mean they are not violence enticing thugs as a group as seen in many other examples over the past year.  Their whole anarchist mentality is based on tearing up people's property and hurting people.  Stomping on rights...ever heard of property rights, the right to free speech, rule of law, etc?  All of these are things that Antifa communists appose.  They are political terrorists and media candy, nothing less, nothing more.  Pawns...


    Show some.
    Some accounts of them being told to dissemble?  I've already posted a couple videos of Antifa members enticing violence.  Nothing I post will mitigate your denial though.  You have to accept that you may be wrong for that to happen.  Why don't you post some videos of Antifa being peaceful and protesting in a civil manner?

    Edit:  this one is kinda funny actually :) https://youtu.be/0H27Ul9ZsHk

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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    Conservatives react with fury to Bannon's departure

    There are some fears among Trump allies that Bannon could wreak havoc on the administration from outside of the White House.

    For months, Breitbart has been running attacks against Kushner, Cohn and McMaster in an effort to boost Bannon's standing in the West Wing. The sense of urgency to protect Bannon grew after McMaster ousted several of Bannon’s allies from the national security council.

    Now, with Bannon gone, his allies are cutting loose.

    “Steve’s allies in the populist nationalist movement are ready to ride to the gates of hell with him against the West Wing Democrats and globalists like [national security aide] Dina Powell, Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Gary Cohn and H.R. McMaster,” said one Bannon ally.

    “They should all be very worried that their efforts to undermine the president will be exposed. If they think what’s happened with Steve is rough, wait until they see what he does outside the White House," the ally said.


    This could be fun! Breitbart may see the return of Bannon. Bannon has the inside scoop on Trump and the White House. I don't read Breitbart, but may start following just to watch the shit show that is sure to start soon.

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    Tiki said:
    The only people I respect in that video are the state police "trying" to do their job and get home to their families.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I knew it.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    The world doesn't revolve around cops.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I see one side instigating.  Yes?
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    Tiki said:
    I see one side instigating.  Yes?
    That's what it looked like to me.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited August 2017
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    The only people I respect in that video are the state police "trying" to do their job and get home to their families.
    The guy at 4:04 :rofl:
    The look of -What happened in my life to get me right here right now?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Wait..what about that ONE guy at GWU in DC that got arrested?  
    How do we know he was part of Antifa?  He didn't have a uniform on.  He wasn't carrying a shield, didn't have a discernible tattoo.  Is our only evidence the what the filmer said?  And it didn't exactly look like he was a part of some large scale action.  
    False equivalency...
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
    I thought the terms false equivalency and whataboutisms were taking a break for awhile?
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2017
    Tiki said:
    I see one side instigating.  Yes?
    I see a bunch of people scampering around like jack asses, hard to differentiate who is who.  Rocks being thrown both ways, chaos.  There are a lot of people there that do not appear to be affiliated with Antifa or the Nazis that are bloodied...How many of those are actually people of Charlettsville?  They are the ones I feel sorry for in that mess of shitheads.

    https://youtu.be/4S2TZOdXAtQ
    She says it better than I ever could.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I still see no evidence as to what YOU and your President are saying.  Problematic, no?
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Facts aren't required, just statements.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2017
    Tiki said:
    I still see no evidence as to what YOU and your President are saying.  Problematic, no?
    https://youtu.be/4S2TZOdXAtQ
    You left her ^^^ out.  She sees it.  I'm guessing she's a Nazi sympathizer, white supremacist too, right?
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    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    I still see no evidence as to what YOU and your President are saying.  Problematic, no?
    https://youtu.be/4S2TZOdXAtQ
    You left her ^^^ out.  She sees it.  I'm guessing she's a Nazi sympathizer, white supremacist too, right?

    People won't watch this.  It's too late. You're a Nazi! in some eyes.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Statements aren't facts.

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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,625
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    Not really an example of antifa behavior from Charlottesville.  
    Black Lives Matter, bro.
    Denial must be fun, keep defending Antifa thugs
    Trying to say antifa and white supremacists are essentially the same is a logic fail and a denial of historical facts as well as the group's objectives. 
    I have never eluded that they are the same.  Just pointed out that they are both fuckhead violence inticers in their own, unique, individuality.  Two separate groups, both fucking wrong and guilty of escalating devision through their fascist tactics.  Condemnation of both groups does not equate to supporting one.  Some of you are so wrapped up in your hate...it's sad actually.
    No indicator of hate from me. Maybe using 'same' was incorrect, but you did clarify where you see similarities. There would be no discussion of antifa in here if there was no trump. That is a big difference. You disaprove of their tactics and probably misconstrue things based on accusing them of similar escalation. 


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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Tiki said:
    Not really an example of antifa behavior from Charlottesville.  
    Black Lives Matter, bro.
    Denial must be fun, keep defending Antifa thugs
    Trying to say antifa and white supremacists are essentially the same is a logic fail and a denial of historical facts as well as the group's objectives. 
    I have never eluded that they are the same.  Just pointed out that they are both fuckhead violence inticers in their own, unique, individuality.  Two separate groups, both fucking wrong and guilty of escalating devision through their fascist tactics.  Condemnation of both groups does not equate to supporting one.  Some of you are so wrapped up in your hate...it's sad actually.
    No indicator of hate from me. Maybe using 'same' was incorrect, but you did clarify where you see similarities. There would be no discussion of antifa in here if there was no trump. That is a big difference. You disaprove of their tactics and probably misconstrue things based on accusing them of similar escalation. 


    And that's probably the main difference.  I disapprove of violence and burning shit up as a means of decreasing hate and bigotry or any political agenda.  Others see it as acceptable...
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,606

    To PJPower:

    PJPower said, Page 272, 10:16 a.m.: They are both on the wrong "side", the side that encourages violence against people that do not perfectly align with their views.

    I was responding that there is no alignment with Nazi's and their views as you so aptly made the comparison. Maybe you'd like to explain to us which Nazi views we should, or that you, align with? I align with Antifa in their opposition to Nazis. I do not align with any Nazi views.

    Are you sure the opposition didn't have a permit to march?

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2017

    To PJPower:

    PJPower said, Page 272, 10:16 a.m.: They are both on the wrong "side", the side that encourages violence against people that do not perfectly align with their views.

    I was responding that there is no alignment with Nazi's and their views as you so aptly made the comparison. Maybe you'd like to explain to us which Nazi views we should, or that you, align with? I align with Antifa in their opposition to Nazis. I do not align with any Nazi views.

    Are you sure the opposition didn't have a permit to march?

    The key word there is "perfectly" align.  Do you "perfectly" align with either group, meaning support everything they do...or are you a little more moderate in your ideals?  I never said anyone should align with any Nazi views, but solid attempt at demonizing :)
    I align with the idea of anti-fascism, but do not align with the idea that you should dress all "black bloc", riot and destroy innocent people's property to push your viewpoint, therefor I do not perfectly align with Antifa and would probably get pepper sprayed if I ever accidentally walked into one of their riots.  I also do no align with socialist or communism.  Does that clear it up?
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    What are you basing this antifa indescrimantely pepper spraying everyone in sight without prejudice and smashing Starbucks windows narrative on?  

    That didn't happen in Charlottesville VA, which is what we're talking about.  

    You know what did happen there?  
    Out of position, improperly equipped cops, dealing with hundreds of open carry asshole Nazis and a bunch of Patriots who weren't interested in their shit.  And one ISIS wanna be who aimed his car into a crowd of people.  Unless you were there, (doubt it) or have some other inside info about how antifa just ruined a perfectly good KKK march, spare us your sorry excuses for why people shouldn't fight back against this type of bullshit.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    BRO
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    Tiki said:
    Madness.

    I respect those people that showed up to protest the nazi morons.

    I have zero respect for the nazi morons. They are less than insects to me.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    Tiki said:
    Madness.

    I respect those people that showed up to protest the nazi morons.

    I have zero respect for the nazi morons. They are less than insects to me.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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