More than 30 Democratic House members are moving to pressure the
Trump administration to fire employees whom they deem supportive of
white supremacy.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal
(D-Wash.) introduced a resolution Tuesday condemning the breakout of
violence in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend during demonstrations
by white nationalists, as well as a series of equivocal statements made
by President Trump in the immediate aftermath of the violent protest.
if he does: chaos if he doesn't: he's admitting he's a racist or a racist sympathizer.
I was thinking yesterday.........can you imagine how this will all be looked back on in 20 or 50 years? will it be downplayed, or will it be looked at as we look at it now.......a total clusterfuck?
I'm sure by that time it will be a full fledged gameshow on tv and the prize is potus. I asked earlier about a statue of Donald Trump after his presidency and if there will be one. Would it cause controversy in 50yrs from now?
Every president makes a library whether it be National or not now so he will most likely have that.
Thanks for that. Do you know off the top of your head if a President can just say "I want a statue of me placed in such and such a place" or is it a bunch of legal/political red tape etc.?
More than 30 Democratic House members are moving to pressure the
Trump administration to fire employees whom they deem supportive of
white supremacy.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal
(D-Wash.) introduced a resolution Tuesday condemning the breakout of
violence in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend during demonstrations
by white nationalists, as well as a series of equivocal statements made
by President Trump in the immediate aftermath of the violent protest.
if he does: chaos if he doesn't: he's admitting he's a racist or a racist sympathizer.
win win for the democrats.
I like your thinking. Win win for democrats, isn't what this all really boils down to?
More than 30 Democratic House members are moving to pressure the
Trump administration to fire employees whom they deem supportive of
white supremacy.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal
(D-Wash.) introduced a resolution Tuesday condemning the breakout of
violence in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend during demonstrations
by white nationalists, as well as a series of equivocal statements made
by President Trump in the immediate aftermath of the violent protest.
if he does: chaos if he doesn't: he's admitting he's a racist or a racist sympathizer.
win win for the democrats.
I like your thinking. Win win for democrats, isn't what this all really boils down to?
I'm sure it is in some circles. a win for dems is a win for the country. in my opinion.
Is this the JC thread? Oh, no, it's not. He'll never drop below 32% in polling as that's the percentage of the public that's racist. But he can't get re-elected with 32% of the vote, even if a third party candidate runs. Not to worry, though. It'll be decided well before 2020.
Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTAPE, all the way to impeachment. 755 +1.
I would never give my money to that asshole's companies.
The money would be going to his son who on the team is president of the winery.
and? his sons are just as or bigger assholes than he is.
It was a business move for President Trump to add after his speech about owning the winery. His son is the President of that company and he gave disclosure before the press found out. You can bet the media is scrumming very hard right now as to why they missed that point. Now the winery in VA without a doubt is on the map.
I would never give my money to that asshole's companies.
The money would be going to his son who on the team is president of the winery.
and? his sons are just as or bigger assholes than he is.
It was a business move for President Trump to add after his speech about owning the winery. His son is the President of that company and he gave disclosure before the press found out. You can bet the media is scrumming very hard right now as to why they missed that point. Now the winery in VA without a doubt is on the map.
Hate to break it to you but it had been reported on previously. The press isn't scrambling.
I would never give my money to that asshole's companies.
The money would be going to his son who on the team is president of the winery.
and? his sons are just as or bigger assholes than he is.
It was a business move for President Trump to add after his speech about owning the winery. His son is the President of that company and he gave disclosure before the press found out. You can bet the media is scrumming very hard right now as to why they missed that point. Now the winery in VA without a doubt is on the map.
I don't get why you think anyone would care about this.
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With ALL that has happened in the last two weeks in the Trump Presidency guess what's NOT happening? There's hardly been any mention of Russia. His stance on the violence VA may turn out to be one of his best distraction although to me his worst ever. As a nation we must come together the rest of the world is watching and listening to this insanity.
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With ALL that has happened in the last two weeks in the Trump Presidency guess what's NOT happening? There's hardly been any mention of Russia. His stance on the violence VA may turn out to be one of his best distraction although to me his worst ever. As a nation we must come together the rest of the world is watching and listening to this insanity.
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doesn't matter. that's still being looked at behind the scenes. and when the current "distraction" is over, it will inevitably be back in the news. he can't distract for 4 years.
I would never give my money to that asshole's companies.
The money would be going to his son who on the team is president of the winery.
and? his sons are just as or bigger assholes than he is.
It was a business move for President Trump to add after his speech about owning the winery. His son is the President of that company and he gave disclosure before the press found out. You can bet the media is scrumming very hard right now as to why they missed that point. Now the winery in VA without a doubt is on the map.
Hate to break it to you but it had been reported on previously. The press isn't scrambling.
Was it reported the his son was the President of the company before?
edit - nevermind. quick google search and found out. Anyway I am trying to make a comparison that President Trump is a business man first and he has just given more advertising to the winery because of the "off camera" remarks.
I would never give my money to that asshole's companies.
The money would be going to his son who on the team is president of the winery.
and? his sons are just as or bigger assholes than he is.
It was a business move for President Trump to add after his speech about owning the winery. His son is the President of that company and he gave disclosure before the press found out. You can bet the media is scrumming very hard right now as to why they missed that point. Now the winery in VA without a doubt is on the map.
Hate to break it to you but it had been reported on previously. The press isn't scrambling.
Was it reported the his son was the President of the company before?
I don't recall but I think it may have been. I recall a WaPo article and maybe a Washtonian or similar type, Washington Monthly maybe, magazine piece.
I would never give my money to that asshole's companies.
The money would be going to his son who on the team is president of the winery.
and? his sons are just as or bigger assholes than he is.
It was a business move for President Trump to add after his speech about owning the winery. His son is the President of that company and he gave disclosure before the press found out. You can bet the media is scrumming very hard right now as to why they missed that point. Now the winery in VA without a doubt is on the map.
Hate to break it to you but it had been reported on previously. The press isn't scrambling.
Was it reported the his son was the President of the company before?
I don't recall but I think it may have been. I recall a WaPo article and maybe a Washtonian or similar type, Washington Monthly maybe, magazine piece.
So this is really an interesting watch. White boy "playing", "acting" thinking it's fun until the shit hits the fan? Possibly. But I ask you to read this post from Kevin Williamson of the National Review. He actually calls them out on this very specifically. He nails this dude and many of them. I know it's long, but give it a read. It's insightful and give me a little hope.
Angry White Boys
What do the white nationalists actually want?
By Kevin D. Williamson — August 16, 2017
What is it these white boys are so angry about?
You don’t go to a protest because you’re happy. You go to a protest because you are mad about something or, in my case, because it is your job. I suppose I have been to something close to a hundred of them over the years.
I have also been the target of a couple. The idiot children of Yale protested a conference on freedom of speech at which I was speaking in 2015, part of a larger kerfuffle about Halloween costumes: A professor had criticized the university’s advice to avoid “cultural appropriation” as part of a larger trend toward transforming campuses into “places of censure and prohibition.” She was censured and, eventually, prohibited — pressured into resigning her job. The Yale kids were spitting mad, or at least a few of them were. I talked to a few future investment bankers after the conference, and, while they did not have any obvious sympathy for my political views, they were embarrassed by their fellow students. They rightly understood the protest to be a form of play-acting, a game of make-believe for young adults who should have grown out of it.
I was also the target of a years-long picket by Philadelphia Teamsters, who were displeased that I had been involved in starting a business in the city without their permission. We owned no vehicles and employed no drivers, but the Teamsters insisted that they were entitled to a generous contract nonetheless. But Teamsters are expensive — so expensive even the Teamsters can’t afford to use them, which is why the protest line outside my office was staffed by one lonely picket captain and a bunch of guys hired (at something less than union wages, I expect) from the local homeless shelter. I’d bring the Teamster boss coffee sometimes, and give him grief: “You know what’s nice about being protested by Teamsters?” I asked. “I know you’re going home at 4:15.” For a while, the Teamster picket ran up against a PETA picket targeting the Benetton across the street. PETA employed a much classier rent-a-mob.
Some protests are memorable: Occupy Wall Street, the New Delhi march of one of India’s several Communist parties that was said to have drawn something on the order of 1 million red partisans, Johnny Rotten greeting Republican National Convention protesters: “Hello, poor people.” But mostly they are tedious, instantly forgettable affairs. Often, about half of those attending look a little bit embarrassed to be there. That’s the smart half.
It makes a little more sense if you know what the protesters want. A necessary precondition of that is their knowing what they want. I could have told you, to the dollar, what the Philadelphia Teamsters wanted from me. The Indian Communists publish their party manifestos to tell us what they want, PETA wants us to pretend that 40 pounds of beef is morally equal to 40 pounds of toddler, Yale kids want to scalp any white girl not named Elizabeth Warren who dresses up as Pocahontas for Halloween, Black Lives Matter wants less aggressive police procedures, the Libertarian party wants weed and porn and low taxes, the Puerto Rican independence movement wants Puerto Rico to move to independence.
What do these angry white boys in Virginia want?
There is some value in taking them at their word, or the 14 of them that make up the basic creed of the white-nationalist movement: “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.” Well, all right. I suppose there are a few campus radicals who oppose the existence of white people, though so far as I can tell this is mainly rhetoric rather than a plan of action. The angry white boys talk about “white genocide,” a concept that is as conveniently vague and amorphous as “white privilege,” of which “white genocide” of course is only the rhetorical obverse. If they are outlandish in generality, they are muddy in specificity. They complain that white men are blamed for all of society’s troubles, that racial and ethnic pride is permitted to everyone except whites (no one has informed the Irish Americans of this), and that they are being “displaced” by immigrants.
A Charlottesville protester named Nicholas J. Fuentes, raging against the “rootless transnational elite,” vows: “You will not replace us.” I have reviewed the passenger manifest of the Mayflower, and there is not a single “Fuentes” to be found. Indeed, the rowdier white-power element in Texas, where I live, would very much like to see every man bearing the name “Fuentes” set down on the southerly side of a muddy little river that runs through Laredo. Peter Cvjetanovic, the 20-year-old rage-monkey bellowing in one of the now-famous photos of the tiki-Nazi procession in Virginia, complains: “I’m not the angry racist they see in that photo.” One hopes not: “Cvjetanović” is a Croat name. Not a whole lot of Slavs on the Mayflower, either, and the originators of that swastika flag the angry white boys in Virginia like to fly would have put every Cvjetanović they could lay hands on in a camp, eventually. Benito Mussolini reported that he himself had been impressed by a protest against “Jugo-Slav” immigrants in Italy.
“A girlfriend,” comes the mocking answer, and there’s probably more to that than mockery. The proprietor of one of the nation’s premier websites for neo-Nazi knuckleheads advised his colleagues in Charlottesville that, after the protest — which included a murder — “random girls will want to have sex with you.” I ran this proposition past a few random girls, and I suspect that the apfelstrudelführers are going to go home disappointed. There are many shades of white, and Mom’s-basement white is the least popular crayon in the box.
Of course we should mock them, criticize them, lament them, and, in the case of James Alex Fields Jr., the trust-funder from Ohio charged in the death of Heather Heyer, prosecute them. What does James Alex Fields Jr. want? A transcript of a 911 call from his mother describes him beating her after she told him to stop playing a particular video game. She is disabled and uses a wheelchair. That wasn’t the only 911 call she made in fear of her son.
The angry white boys do not have a serious political agenda. They don’t have any straightforward demands like the Teamsters or PETA do, and they do not have a well-developed ideological position like the Communists do, though it would be inaccurate to say that they lack an ideology entirely. Their agenda is their anger, an anger that is difficult to understand. Middle-class white men in the United States of America in anno Domini 2017 have their problems, to be sure. Life is full of little disappointments. But their motive is not to be found in their exterior circumstances, which are pretty good.
Maybe too good: A great many of these young men have an interest in evolutionary psychology and evolutionary sociology — they like to think of themselves as “alpha males,” as though they were living in a chimpanzee troop — but it never occurs to them to consider their own status as rejects and failed men in that context. Online fantasy lives notwithstanding, random girls do not want to have sex with them. How do we know this? Because they are carrying tiki torches in a giant dork parade in Charlottesville. There’s no prom queen waiting at home. If we credit their own sociobiological model, they are the superfluous males who would have been discarded, along with their genetic material, by the pitiless state of nature. The fantasy of proving that they are something else is why they dream of violence and confrontation. They are the products of the soft liberal-democratic society they hold in contempt — and upon which they depend, utterly. James Alex Fields Jr. is angry at the world, and angry at his mother, probably for the same reason.
What does an angry white boy want? The fact that they get together to play dress-up — to engage in a large and sometimes murderous game of cowboys and Indians — may give us our answer. They want to be someone other than who they are. That’s the great irony of identity politics: They seek identity in the tribe because they are failed individuals. They are a chain composed exclusively of weak links. What they are engaged in isn’t politics, but theater: play-acting in the hopes of achieving catharsis. Their online personas — knights, Vikings, reincarnations of Charles Martel — will be familiar enough to anybody with a Dungeons and Dragons nerd in his life. But sometimes, role-playing around a card table isn’t enough: Sometimes, you need a stage and an audience. In the theater, actors and audience both can forget ourselves for an hour or two. Under the soft glow of the tiki torches, these angry white boys can be something else — for a night.
In the morning, they wake up with the same faces. And there is something in the faces. James Alex Fields Jr. has more than a little whiff of Dylann Roof about him, and we know what Dylann Roof wanted: to murder black people. Sometimes, it is worth taking angry white boys at their word.
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if he doesn't: he's admitting he's a racist or a racist sympathizer.
win win for the democrats.
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Win win for democrats, isn't what this all really boils down to?
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The money would be going to his son who on the team is president of the winery.
Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTAPE, all the way to impeachment. 755 +1.
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It was a business move for President Trump to add after his speech about owning the winery. His son is the President of that company and he gave disclosure before the press found out. You can bet the media is scrumming very hard right now as to why they missed that point. Now the winery in VA without a doubt is on the map.
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edit - nevermind. quick google search and found out. Anyway I am trying to make a comparison that President Trump is a business man first and he has just given more advertising to the winery because of the "off camera" remarks.
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What is it these white boys are so angry about?
You don’t go to a protest because you’re happy. You go to a protest because you are mad about something or, in my case, because it is your job. I suppose I have been to something close to a hundred of them over the years.
I have also been the target of a couple. The idiot children of Yale protested a conference on freedom of speech at which I was speaking in 2015, part of a larger kerfuffle about Halloween costumes: A professor had criticized the university’s advice to avoid “cultural appropriation” as part of a larger trend toward transforming campuses into “places of censure and prohibition.” She was censured and, eventually, prohibited — pressured into resigning her job. The Yale kids were spitting mad, or at least a few of them were. I talked to a few future investment bankers after the conference, and, while they did not have any obvious sympathy for my political views, they were embarrassed by their fellow students. They rightly understood the protest to be a form of play-acting, a game of make-believe for young adults who should have grown out of it.
I was also the target of a years-long picket by Philadelphia Teamsters, who were displeased that I had been involved in starting a business in the city without their permission. We owned no vehicles and employed no drivers, but the Teamsters insisted that they were entitled to a generous contract nonetheless. But Teamsters are expensive — so expensive even the Teamsters can’t afford to use them, which is why the protest line outside my office was staffed by one lonely picket captain and a bunch of guys hired (at something less than union wages, I expect) from the local homeless shelter. I’d bring the Teamster boss coffee sometimes, and give him grief: “You know what’s nice about being protested by Teamsters?” I asked. “I know you’re going home at 4:15.” For a while, the Teamster picket ran up against a PETA picket targeting the Benetton across the street. PETA employed a much classier rent-a-mob.
Some protests are memorable: Occupy Wall Street, the New Delhi march of one of India’s several Communist parties that was said to have drawn something on the order of 1 million red partisans, Johnny Rotten greeting Republican National Convention protesters: “Hello, poor people.” But mostly they are tedious, instantly forgettable affairs. Often, about half of those attending look a little bit embarrassed to be there. That’s the smart half.
The other half . . .
It makes a little more sense if you know what the protesters want. A necessary precondition of that is their knowing what they want. I could have told you, to the dollar, what the Philadelphia Teamsters wanted from me. The Indian Communists publish their party manifestos to tell us what they want, PETA wants us to pretend that 40 pounds of beef is morally equal to 40 pounds of toddler, Yale kids want to scalp any white girl not named Elizabeth Warren who dresses up as Pocahontas for Halloween, Black Lives Matter wants less aggressive police procedures, the Libertarian party wants weed and porn and low taxes, the Puerto Rican independence movement wants Puerto Rico to move to independence.
What do these angry white boys in Virginia want?
There is some value in taking them at their word, or the 14 of them that make up the basic creed of the white-nationalist movement: “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.” Well, all right. I suppose there are a few campus radicals who oppose the existence of white people, though so far as I can tell this is mainly rhetoric rather than a plan of action. The angry white boys talk about “white genocide,” a concept that is as conveniently vague and amorphous as “white privilege,” of which “white genocide” of course is only the rhetorical obverse. If they are outlandish in generality, they are muddy in specificity. They complain that white men are blamed for all of society’s troubles, that racial and ethnic pride is permitted to everyone except whites (no one has informed the Irish Americans of this), and that they are being “displaced” by immigrants.
A Charlottesville protester named Nicholas J. Fuentes, raging against the “rootless transnational elite,” vows: “You will not replace us.” I have reviewed the passenger manifest of the Mayflower, and there is not a single “Fuentes” to be found. Indeed, the rowdier white-power element in Texas, where I live, would very much like to see every man bearing the name “Fuentes” set down on the southerly side of a muddy little river that runs through Laredo. Peter Cvjetanovic, the 20-year-old rage-monkey bellowing in one of the now-famous photos of the tiki-Nazi procession in Virginia, complains: “I’m not the angry racist they see in that photo.” One hopes not: “Cvjetanović” is a Croat name. Not a whole lot of Slavs on the Mayflower, either, and the originators of that swastika flag the angry white boys in Virginia like to fly would have put every Cvjetanović they could lay hands on in a camp, eventually. Benito Mussolini reported that he himself had been impressed by a protest against “Jugo-Slav” immigrants in Italy.
Fuentes? Cvjetanović? As Rachel Dolezal knows, white people just ain’t what they used to be.
What does an angry white boy really want?
“A girlfriend,” comes the mocking answer, and there’s probably more to that than mockery. The proprietor of one of the nation’s premier websites for neo-Nazi knuckleheads advised his colleagues in Charlottesville that, after the protest — which included a murder — “random girls will want to have sex with you.” I ran this proposition past a few random girls, and I suspect that the apfelstrudelführers are going to go home disappointed. There are many shades of white, and Mom’s-basement white is the least popular crayon in the box.
Of course we should mock them, criticize them, lament them, and, in the case of James Alex Fields Jr., the trust-funder from Ohio charged in the death of Heather Heyer, prosecute them. What does James Alex Fields Jr. want? A transcript of a 911 call from his mother describes him beating her after she told him to stop playing a particular video game. She is disabled and uses a wheelchair. That wasn’t the only 911 call she made in fear of her son.
The angry white boys do not have a serious political agenda. They don’t have any straightforward demands like the Teamsters or PETA do, and they do not have a well-developed ideological position like the Communists do, though it would be inaccurate to say that they lack an ideology entirely. Their agenda is their anger, an anger that is difficult to understand. Middle-class white men in the United States of America in anno Domini 2017 have their problems, to be sure. Life is full of little disappointments. But their motive is not to be found in their exterior circumstances, which are pretty good.
Maybe too good: A great many of these young men have an interest in evolutionary psychology and evolutionary sociology — they like to think of themselves as “alpha males,” as though they were living in a chimpanzee troop — but it never occurs to them to consider their own status as rejects and failed men in that context. Online fantasy lives notwithstanding, random girls do not want to have sex with them. How do we know this? Because they are carrying tiki torches in a giant dork parade in Charlottesville. There’s no prom queen waiting at home. If we credit their own sociobiological model, they are the superfluous males who would have been discarded, along with their genetic material, by the pitiless state of nature. The fantasy of proving that they are something else is why they dream of violence and confrontation. They are the products of the soft liberal-democratic society they hold in contempt — and upon which they depend, utterly. James Alex Fields Jr. is angry at the world, and angry at his mother, probably for the same reason.
What does an angry white boy want? The fact that they get together to play dress-up — to engage in a large and sometimes murderous game of cowboys and Indians — may give us our answer. They want to be someone other than who they are. That’s the great irony of identity politics: They seek identity in the tribe because they are failed individuals. They are a chain composed exclusively of weak links. What they are engaged in isn’t politics, but theater: play-acting in the hopes of achieving catharsis. Their online personas — knights, Vikings, reincarnations of Charles Martel — will be familiar enough to anybody with a Dungeons and Dragons nerd in his life. But sometimes, role-playing around a card table isn’t enough: Sometimes, you need a stage and an audience. In the theater, actors and audience both can forget ourselves for an hour or two. Under the soft glow of the tiki torches, these angry white boys can be something else — for a night.
In the morning, they wake up with the same faces. And there is something in the faces. James Alex Fields Jr. has more than a little whiff of Dylann Roof about him, and we know what Dylann Roof wanted: to murder black people. Sometimes, it is worth taking angry white boys at their word.
There is some truth to this statement for sure.
Haha, big tough guy.
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