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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    my2hands said:
    I saw Rubio basically openly implicate Putin in the 1999 False Flag apartment bombings a few months ago in the Tillerson Senate confirmation hearing

    I couldn't believe it... still dont... 

    Because that shit really happened folks

    That's covered extensively in a Frontline report and Putin is scary shit, how he came to power, how he holds on to power, what drives him and the amount of wealth he and his cronies have accumulated through illicit means. That Trump and his administration think he's our ally or can be a friend shows just how clueless they are. Or how heavily invested or that an extensive PTAPE exists. For the record, me thinks Sessions is on telephone recordings that he hasn't disclosed.
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    CM189191 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sessions does not like aggressive questioning by a woman Senator. He's offended. Getting snippy and nervous.
    Nope, he doesn't.  They just gave Kamala the Warren treatment....again.  Nevertheless, she persisted.
    I'm keeping an eye on Kamala Harris. I think she could be a contender in 2020. 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    I need to track that frontline down... I'm sure they did a great job

    I don't think people realize what's going on over there
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    jeffbr said:
    CM189191 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sessions does not like aggressive questioning by a woman Senator. He's offended. Getting snippy and nervous.
    Nope, he doesn't.  They just gave Kamala the Warren treatment....again.  Nevertheless, she persisted.
    I'm keeping an eye on Kamala Harris. I think she could be a contender in 2020. 
    Apparently the right is keeping an eye on her too.  They are looking to demonize, slander and defame anyone who remotely resembles a Presidential Candidate.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Robert Mueller expands special counsel office, hires 13 lawyers

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-lawyers/index.html

    Look at the Russia story go away. Fading....any....day....now.....
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    I wonder if this headline will go away soon, like 6 months ago?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    Second paragraph, for those keeping score.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    Nick Akerman former Watergate prosecutor to Roger Stone who is under investigation for alleged collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign: 
    "...and you’re the man behind this whole business with Trump and with this Guccifer and with the Russians, and you have the nerve to get on television and make these wild accusations, when you’re on television before predicting exactly when the WikiLeaks information would come out on Hillary Clinton,” 

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/that-is-absolute-nonsense-watergate-prosecutor-slams-roger-stones-garbage-defense-of-nixon/

    That's a pretty bold accusation
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2017
    This thread is still going? Why?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Because Flynn is singing like the caged bird does.

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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    I am paying attention.  Attention to the fact that all anyone has that supports this ridiculous theory of Russia influencing the election win of President Trump has nothing yet. I mean cmon, what are you guys waiting for? Show us the evidence.  Wait and see is not an answer.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I am paying attention.  Attention to the fact that all anyone has that supports this ridiculous theory of Russia influencing the election win of President Trump has nothing yet. I mean cmon, what are you guys waiting for? Show us the evidence.  Wait and see is not an answer.
    Oh, you'll wait and then you'll see. But you'll still be a #denier.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    Now why would Trump "suggest" that?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/intel-chiefs-trump-refute-collusion/index.html

    Because he's treasonous?
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,378
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    I am paying attention.  Attention to the fact that all anyone has that supports this ridiculous theory of Russia influencing the election win of President Trump has nothing yet. I mean cmon, what are you guys waiting for? Show us the evidence.  Wait and see is not an answer.
    Oh, you'll wait and then you'll see. But you'll still be a #denier.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580

    Trump really is that dumb, isn't he?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/06/22/trump-russian-interference-is-all-a-big-dem-hoax/?utm_term=.ada0d7bd3fb4&wpisrc=nl_most-draw10&wpmm=1

    Trump used the caveat of “if Russia was working so hard,” making clear that he is not yet convinced that Russia interfered in the election with its cyberattacks and other activities.

    Sixteen U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia did in fact meddle in the election, through cyberattacks and other activities, with the explicit aim of influencing the outcome. White House press secretary Sean Spicer told reporters Tuesday that he did not know whether the president believed the conclusion of his own intelligence agencies.

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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Election Hackers Altered Voter Rolls, Stole Private Data, Officials Say

    http://time.com/4828306/russian-hacking-election-widespread-private-data/
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    ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    PJfan, why do you keep saying things about Russia not changing any votes or the outcome of the election? The fact that they didn't make an impact doesn't make the crimes of collusion (if they exist) or hacking into systems not illegal. If I rob a bank and get away with it- I'm still on the hook for that crime until I'm caught or someone convinces a jury I didn't do it. 
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ledvedderman said:
    PJfan, why do you keep saying things about Russia not changing any votes or the outcome of the election? The fact that they didn't make an impact doesn't make the crimes of collusion (if they exist) or hacking into systems not illegal. If I rob a bank and get away with it- I'm still on the hook for that crime until I'm caught or someone convinces a jury I didn't do it. 

    This is getting exhausting.

    What did Russia do? - until you give a viable answer I am saying my answer is nothing.
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    elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,234
    This is the only place I still here about this.  
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    elvistheking44 said:
    This is the only place I still here about this.  
    That makes me wonder which news media you pay attention to. 
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    elvistheking44 said:
    This is the only place I still here about this.  

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ledvedderman said:
    PJfan, why do you keep saying things about Russia not changing any votes or the outcome of the election? The fact that they didn't make an impact doesn't make the crimes of collusion (if they exist) or hacking into systems not illegal. If I rob a bank and get away with it- I'm still on the hook for that crime until I'm caught or someone convinces a jury I didn't do it. 

    This is getting exhausting.

    What did Russia do? - until you give a viable answer I am saying my answer is nothing.
    You really can't pay attention and follow along can you?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ledvedderman said:
    PJfan, why do you keep saying things about Russia not changing any votes or the outcome of the election? The fact that they didn't make an impact doesn't make the crimes of collusion (if they exist) or hacking into systems not illegal. If I rob a bank and get away with it- I'm still on the hook for that crime until I'm caught or someone convinces a jury I didn't do it. 

    This is getting exhausting.

    What did Russia do? - until you give a viable answer I am saying my answer is nothing.
    Stryker University grad with BS as an advisor? Makes sense. Like Trump's basketball draft, we'll pass you.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,086
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ledvedderman said:
    PJfan, why do you keep saying things about Russia not changing any votes or the outcome of the election? The fact that they didn't make an impact doesn't make the crimes of collusion (if they exist) or hacking into systems not illegal. If I rob a bank and get away with it- I'm still on the hook for that crime until I'm caught or someone convinces a jury I didn't do it. 

    This is getting exhausting.

    What did Russia do? - until you give a viable answer I am saying my answer is nothing.
    Seriously?

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/intel-officials-detail-russian-cyberattacks-sought-interfere-u-s-elections/


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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,283
    cincybearcat said:
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ledvedderman said:
    PJfan, why do you keep saying things about Russia not changing any votes or the outcome of the election? The fact that they didn't make an impact doesn't make the crimes of collusion (if they exist) or hacking into systems not illegal. If I rob a bank and get away with it- I'm still on the hook for that crime until I'm caught or someone convinces a jury I didn't do it. 

    This is getting exhausting.

    What did Russia do? - until you give a viable answer I am saying my answer is nothing.
    Seriously?

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/intel-officials-detail-russian-cyberattacks-sought-interfere-u-s-elections/


    Seriously pjfan might live somewhere in Canada burried in snow he might not be getting up to date news cast ! 
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    elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,234
    dignin said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    This is the only place I still here about this.  

    I just don't care that much. Life is to short to CONSTANTLY complain about things.  Aren't you guys tired of this?
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    elvistheking44 said:
    dignin said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    This is the only place I still here about this.  

    I just don't care that much. Life is to short to CONSTANTLY complain about things.  Aren't you guys tired of this?

    You didn't say you were tired of complaining. You said you never heard about these matters anywhere but here. Every other news media I look at is covering this issue. Now, how they cover it depends on their spin, but they're covering it. If you're not seeing it, I wonder what news you see, if any. If you're not interested in reading about and discussing the news, why come to the AMT?
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,113
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ledvedderman said: be
    PJfan, why do you keep saying things about Russia not changing any votes or the outcome of the election? The fact that they didn't make an impact doesn't make the crimes of collusion (if they exist) or hacking into systems not illegal. If I rob a bank and get away with it- I'm still on the hook for that crime until I'm caught or someone convinces a jury I didn't do it. 

    This is getting exhausting.

    What did Russia do? - until you give a viable answer I am saying my answer is nothing.


    From Wash Post...

    Inside was an intelligence bombshell, a report drawn from sourcing deep inside the Russian government that detailed Russian President Vladi­mir Putin’s direct involvement in a cyber campaign to disrupt and discredit the U.S. presidential race."
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    ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ledvedderman said:
    PJfan, why do you keep saying things about Russia not changing any votes or the outcome of the election? The fact that they didn't make an impact doesn't make the crimes of collusion (if they exist) or hacking into systems not illegal. If I rob a bank and get away with it- I'm still on the hook for that crime until I'm caught or someone convinces a jury I didn't do it. 

    This is getting exhausting.

    What did Russia do? - until you give a viable answer I am saying my answer is nothing.
    Well, I work for the Illinois State Board of Elections and they hacked us. But what do I know?

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/15/russian-hackers-accessed-illinois-election-board-database-last-year/

    Just because no votes were changed doesn't make what happened less illegal. 
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