PJ Needs to Vary Setlist (Encores) for Fenway and Wrigley Shows

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
    jp307677 said:

    They can do whatever they want. Some people are getting spoiled and greedy.

    Or maybe people just like to have an opinion about their favorite band. Some of you defend these set lists as if you wrote them. Nothing wrong for asking for variety from a band that is known for their ever changing set lists.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,489
    For me, the first two hours of the show are most entertaining. The last 30 minutes don't do much for me. I've seen a ton of shows though which the unfortunate consequence for me is usually a let down feeling when I hear the first few notes of Black, Alive, Jeremy, Porch, RITFW or Ledbetter played. They are such long songs and placed back to back usually.
  • For me, the first two hours of the show are most entertaining. The last 30 minutes don't do much for me. I've seen a ton of shows though which the unfortunate consequence for me is usually a let down feeling when I hear the first few notes of Black, Alive, Jeremy, Porch, RITFW or Ledbetter played. They are such long songs and placed back to back usually.

    W/ all due respect sir if you get let down from hearing the first few notes of a song live it is time to pass the torch.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,489

    For me, the first two hours of the show are most entertaining. The last 30 minutes don't do much for me. I've seen a ton of shows though which the unfortunate consequence for me is usually a let down feeling when I hear the first few notes of Black, Alive, Jeremy, Porch, RITFW or Ledbetter played. They are such long songs and placed back to back usually.

    W/ all due respect sir if you get let down from hearing the first few notes of a song live it is time to pass the torch.
    No, it just means I would rather hear another song in their vast catalog.
  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,368
    I have zero complaints and would be perfectly okay with the same approach to every setlist each time to come in the future.

    However, if I was able to choose what I would change, i would hang up RITFW for just a little while. Maybe a few more Fuckin Ups or something.

    But again, no complaints, always love the shows!
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  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 2,894
    edited July 2016
    I agree with the overall point. But I don't think there's any doubt we're going to hear Black and Alive in the 2nd encores. Arguably their two most popular songs in a huge venue full of casual/semi-casual fans. Die-hards will be the minority, I'm afraid. I'd love to be wrong.

    I think Ledbetter will close both nights. Baba one night. RITFW for the other night.

    Either way, I'm fired up for next weekend. Been waiting 7-8 months for these shows. (actually about 20 years really)
  • jp307677jp307677 Boston Posts: 415
    I love hearing it changed up a bit and getting some rarities, but am looking forward to some of their classic live standards played in the Fenway atmosphere...Lukin/Not For You, etc...as many times as I've witnessed RITFW as the encore, I've been fantasizing of hearing that at Fenway with the house lights on for months!
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,489
    Right, I may be tired of those songs but I'm not saying they shouldn't be played in the encores. Selfishly I wish they were moved around more but I understand there are thousands of people there and Ed knows how to put together a kick ass setlist.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,717
    I think PJ keeps a formula in the final encore to send most of the fans home happy. They've been doing this for 25 years- they understand what the die hard fans want and what the casuals and one timers want. After 23 shows, I'm perfectly content with getting some out of body crazy rare moments earlier in sets and then the hits to close the shows. Especially considering many other bands don't change their sets at all or very little.

    But yes, everyone is looking for different things and I understand the OP and others suggestions.
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  • ruggs1996ruggs1996 Posts: 566
    edited July 2016
    mcgruff10 said:

    jp307677 said:

    They can do whatever they want. Some people are getting spoiled and greedy.

    Or maybe people just like to have an opinion about their favorite band. Some of you defend these set lists as if you wrote them. Nothing wrong for asking for variety from a band that is known for their ever changing set lists.
    Thank you. I don't think it's a crime for suggesting the band to change it up a little. Just because I'm a fan of the band, doesn't mean I can't critique them or have to agree with everything they do. Some fans follow this band blindly. It truly is unbelievable.
    Post edited by ruggs1996 on
    Camden 2 (2008) 
    Philly 1 and 4 (2009)
    Newark (2010)
    MSG 1 (2010)
    Toronto 1 and 2 (2011)
    Brooklyn 1 and 2 (2013)
    Philly 2 (2013)
    Greenville (2016)
    Columbia (2016)
    MSG 2 (2016)
    Fenway 2 (2016)
    EV NJPAC (2022)
    MSG (2022)
    Denver (2022)
  • ruggs1996ruggs1996 Posts: 566
    Also just because I'm suggesting to change the setlist doesn't mean I don't like Yellow Ledbetter, Alive, Black, or Porch, etc, etc.
    Camden 2 (2008) 
    Philly 1 and 4 (2009)
    Newark (2010)
    MSG 1 (2010)
    Toronto 1 and 2 (2011)
    Brooklyn 1 and 2 (2013)
    Philly 2 (2013)
    Greenville (2016)
    Columbia (2016)
    MSG 2 (2016)
    Fenway 2 (2016)
    EV NJPAC (2022)
    MSG (2022)
    Denver (2022)
  • AceCoolAceCool Texas Posts: 455
    kramer73 said:

    They'll get right on that. I'm OK with whatever they play.

    So you're saying that they're going to start playing Get Right as an encore? Nice!!!
  • KP_McMinnKP_McMinn West Philadelphia born and raised Posts: 748
    Just play some new fucking songs man. Been like 4 years since they debuted one...just play some new shit, and no one will bitch about the old shit.
  • tylermooretylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 879

    As long as Pearl Jam plays Pearl Jam songs, I will be a happy Pearl Jam fan.

    Yes to this.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,717
    Those two setlists were amazing...
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    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17

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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,810
    They played Breath in Massachusetts for the first time since 2003.
    They played I've Got A Feeling for the first time since 2004.
    They played Masters Of War for the first time since 2008.
    They gave us Off He Goes and NAIS before the sun went down on Sunday.
    They closed a set on Friday with Corduroy for the first time in years.
    Strangest Tribe.
    Angel.
    Draw The Line.

    These shows were awesome.
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  • ruggs1996ruggs1996 Posts: 566
    JimmyV said:

    They played Breath in Massachusetts for the first time since 2003.
    They played I've Got A Feeling for the first time since 2004.
    They played Masters Of War for the first time since 2008.
    They gave us Off He Goes and NAIS before the sun went down on Sunday.
    They closed a set on Friday with Corduroy for the first time in years.
    Strangest Tribe.
    Angel.
    Draw The Line.

    These shows were awesome.

    Definitely answered the call especially night 2

    Camden 2 (2008) 
    Philly 1 and 4 (2009)
    Newark (2010)
    MSG 1 (2010)
    Toronto 1 and 2 (2011)
    Brooklyn 1 and 2 (2013)
    Philly 2 (2013)
    Greenville (2016)
    Columbia (2016)
    MSG 2 (2016)
    Fenway 2 (2016)
    EV NJPAC (2022)
    MSG (2022)
    Denver (2022)
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,717
    JimmyV said:

    They played Breath in Massachusetts for the first time since 2003.
    They played I've Got A Feeling for the first time since 2004.
    They played Masters Of War for the first time since 2008.
    They gave us Off He Goes and NAIS before the sun went down on Sunday.
    They closed a set on Friday with Corduroy for the first time in years.
    Strangest Tribe.
    Angel.
    Draw The Line.

    These shows were awesome.

    Good stats :smiley:
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17

    LOOKING FOR TIX TO MSG NIGHT 2
  • BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,335
    ruggs1996 said:

    JimmyV said:

    They played Breath in Massachusetts for the first time since 2003.
    They played I've Got A Feeling for the first time since 2004.
    They played Masters Of War for the first time since 2008.
    They gave us Off He Goes and NAIS before the sun went down on Sunday.
    They closed a set on Friday with Corduroy for the first time in years.
    Strangest Tribe.
    Angel.
    Draw The Line.

    These shows were awesome.

    Definitely answered the call especially night 2

    I loved both shows :)
  • jzugalejzugale Posts: 3
    agree with the overall point wholeheartedly that the 2nd encore is way too predictable
  • PJWGIIIPJWGIII Chicago, IL Posts: 806
    Crazy how fast people get spoiled on here. Sure, more variation would be nice, but the fact that they even HAVE variation in the first place is what makes this band a step ahead of everyone else.
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  • ZodZod Posts: 9,942
    PJWGIII said:
    Crazy how fast people get spoiled on here. Sure, more variation would be nice, but the fact that they even HAVE variation in the first place is what makes this band a step ahead of everyone else.
    It creates a chicken/egg problem though.  Because Pearl Jam changes their setlist's every night, people travel around and go to multiple shows.   Because PJ fans go to a lot of shows, they get bored of the songs that get played at every show :)
  • PSUS2HPSUS2H USA Posts: 2,049
    Vary the setlist, haha, try seeing Metallica back to back only about three songs will be different.   I think PJ does a great job with the setlists.  
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
    As long as Pearl Jam plays Pearl Jam songs, I will be a happy Pearl Jam fan.

    Don't worry, they'll have six covers for us!
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    I am just not too sure why they vary the main setlist so much, like make a huge point of it, but then won't do it with the encore ... It's just kind of strange. It's like two clashing philosophies.
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