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Britons tire of cruel, vulgar US

flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
edited July 2006 in A Moving Train
This from our strongest ally. At least most of the anger seems to be directed at the government and not the average citizen.
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Britons tire of cruel, vulgar US: poll
Sun Jul 2, 11:12 PM ET

People in Britain view the United States as a vulgar, crime-ridden society obsessed with money and led by an incompetent president whose Iraq policy is failing, according to a newspaper poll.

The United States is no longer a symbol of hope to Britain and the British no longer have confidence in their transatlantic cousins to lead global affairs, according to the poll published in The Daily Telegraph.

The YouGov poll found that 77 percent of respondents disagreed with the statement that the US is "a beacon of hope for the world".

As Americans prepared to celebrate the 230th anniversary of their independence on Tuesday, the poll found that only 12 percent of Britons trust them to act wisely on the global stage. This is half the number who had faith in the Vietnam-scarred White House of 1975.

A massive 83 percent of those questioned said that the United States doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks.

With much of the worst criticism aimed at the US adminstration, the poll showed that 70 percent of Britons like Americans a lot or a little.

US President George W. Bush fared significantly worse, with just one percent rating him a "great leader" against 77 percent who deemed him a "pretty poor" or "terrible" leader.

More than two-thirds who offered an opinion said America is essentially an imperial power seeking world domination. And 81 per cent of those who took a view said President George W Bush hypocritically championed democracy as a cover for the pursuit of American self-interests.

US policy in Iraq was similarly derided, with only 24 percent saying they felt that the US military action there was helping to bring democracy to the country.

A spokesman for the American embassy said that the poll's findings were contradicted by its own surveys.

"We question the judgment of anyone who asserts the world would be a better place with Saddam still terrorizing his own nation and threatening people well beyond Iraq's borders," the paper quoted the unnamed spokesman as saying.

"With respect to the poll's assertions about American society, we bear some of the blame for not successfully communicating America's extraordinary dynamism.

"But frankly, so do you (the British press)."

In answer to other questions, a majority of the Britons questions described Americans as uncaring, divided by class, awash in violent crime, vulgar, preoccupied with money, ignorant of the outside world, racially divided, uncultured and in the most overwhelming result (90 percent of respondents) dominated by big business.
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    miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,452
    Tell the britains i think their pompous tea drinkers with horrible teeth.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
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    ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,025
    that'll help out a lot huh?
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    binauralsoundsbinauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    I'm hurt:(

    blahahahahahah:)
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    rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,917
    ryan198 wrote:
    that'll help out a lot huh?

    I don't think either side flinging insults across the Atlantic is a good thing ... Unless maybe you're Osama.
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    ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,025
    maybe i am ... maybe i am...according to some conservatives on here PJ (esp. eddie) is the next worst thing next to osama. that is, if Osama was a real person in the first place.
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    rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,917
    ryan198 wrote:
    if Osama was a real person in the first place.

    Oh, so you're delusional?
    Gotcha.
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    ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,025
    it was somewhat of a joke, as was the entire post. my second level point on that was that somehow osama has become our most pressing concern when we have a hell of a lot more problems than him at this moment.
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    rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,917
    ryan198 wrote:
    it was somewhat of a joke, as was the entire post. my second level point on that was that somehow osama has become our most pressing concern when we have a hell of a lot more problems than him at this moment.

    Well, I can agree with that ... Probably.
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    ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,025
    Well, I can agree with that ... Probably.
    WOAH!!!! an agreement (even if only probable) on AMT!!! Mark it down...must be the holiday.
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    rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,917
    ryan198 wrote:
    WOAH!!!! an agreement (even if only probable) on AMT!!! Mark it down...must be the holiday.

    Yeah, people are feeling generous ...
    :)
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    know1know1 Posts: 6,763
    Why doesn't the article list the specifics of those polled such as the number polled, etc.?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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    flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    I dont know. I'm on hold with the editor but maybe this link will help with the poll company's methods.

    http://www.yougov.com/
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    soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    ryan198 wrote:
    it was somewhat of a joke, as was the entire post. my second level point on that was that somehow osama has become our most pressing concern when we have a hell of a lot more problems than him at this moment.

    osama is our most pressing concern? that's funny, coulda swore we totally stopped looking for him or smoething. didnt we give up on whatever country that was and go to iraq? i havent heard about osama, i kinda assumed we musta caught him when i wasnt looking or something. all i hear about is that evil saddam guy. i think they even said HE was the real guy involved with 9/11.

    ;)

    this poll pretty much nails american culture right now as far as im concerned.
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    flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    I dont know. I'm on hold with the editor but maybe this link will help with the poll company's methods.

    http://www.yougov.com/


    here is a better link -- it is the methods for U.S. version but probably the same as the U.K. one.

    http://www.yougovamerica.com/asp_besContent/bes_polintro.asp
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    I love this country like everyone else living in it, but we have a LOT of problems.


    "In answer to other questions, a majority of the Britons questions described Americans as uncaring, divided by class, awash in violent crime, vulgar, preoccupied with money, ignorant of the outside world, racially divided, uncultured and in the most overwhelming result (90 percent of respondents) dominated by big business."

    that's true.

    And lets add onto that the overwhelming amount of people who don't vote.

    Problem is that because of that apathy, the way we're controlled by corporations, etc etc. it's becoming increasingly hard to fix.
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

    http://www.wishlistfoundation.org

    Oh my, they dropped the leash.



    Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!

    "Make our day"
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    I love this country like everyone else living in it, but we have a LOT of problems.


    "In answer to other questions, a majority of the Britons questions described Americans as uncaring, divided by class, awash in violent crime, vulgar, preoccupied with money, ignorant of the outside world, racially divided, uncultured and in the most overwhelming result (90 percent of respondents) dominated by big business."

    that's true.

    And lets add onto that the overwhelming amount of people who don't vote.

    Problem is that because of that apathy, the way we're controlled by corporations, etc etc. it's becoming increasingly hard to fix.


    I know! I think about it all the time. How are we ever gonna fix all of this? And is it past even being fixable? Still gotta try cause it's all we got.

    It reminds me of this Ani Lyric....'Why don't you go ahead and turn off the sun, cause we'll never live long enough to undo everything they've done to you...'
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
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    I know! I think about it all the time. How are we ever gonna fix all of this? And is it past even being fixable? Still gotta try cause it's all we got.

    It reminds me of this Ani Lyric....'Why don't you go ahead and turn off the sun, cause we'll never live long enough to undo everything they've done to you...'
    Reminds me of a Pearl Jam lyric.


    "Why swim the channel just to get this far? Half way there why would you turn around?"

    We've done an incredible thing with this country, but we're letting it slip.
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

    http://www.wishlistfoundation.org

    Oh my, they dropped the leash.



    Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!

    "Make our day"
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    Reminds me of a Pearl Jam lyric.


    "Why swim the channel just to get this far? Half way there why would you turn around?"

    We've done an incredible thing with this country, but we're letting it slip.

    and somewhere nero, i mean bush, is playing a violin...
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,976
    i live here and i am tired of cruel, vulgar US....thankfully, most americans are NOT cruel and vulgar...but sometimes it all makes you wonder.
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


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