WWE Vs. NBA

pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,883
edited May 2009 in All Encompassing Trip
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9586944/Nuggets,-WWE-in-smackdown-over-arena-confict

Probably the most interseting thing to happen to the NBA in a long time. McMahons quotes are classic.
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    i really thought this was gonna be a thread about how the NBA is just as scripted as the WWE..
    o well

    pretty funny how mcmahon calls denver higher ups out for not believing in its team
  • Steve DunneSteve Dunne Posts: 4,963
    hilarious
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,121
    i really thought this was gonna be a thread about how the NBA is just as scripted as the WWE..
    o well

    pretty funny how mcmahon calls denver higher ups out for not believing in its team
    I also thought this was a dig on the NBA for being more about "Sports Entertainment" that actually sports. Although the NBA could probably improve it's officiating with "special guest referees" like Mark Cuban calling the games instead.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    You can tell that McMahon LOVES this. any publicity is good publicity.
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  • uninnocent-uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    wwe has a binding contract, it's not their fault that the arena management did not reserve the pepsi centre for the nuggets. the nba is gonna have to be a lil' more flexible with their postseason schedule.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    wwe has a binding contract, it's not their fault that the arena management did not reserve the pepsi centre for the nuggets. the nba is gonna have to be a lil' more flexible with their postseason schedule.

    Yeah, I'd have to see what the league rules are... do they have specific dates that need held, or rules about a building holding dates during the playoffs? If the building broke those rules and booked WWE anyway, then it's going to cost them a pretty penny to make the WWE go away.
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  • icemanapicemanap Posts: 406
    That's not a great situation to be in. Obviously if contracts were signed by the grapplers before the tall guys, WWE should have first refusal. What about Wrestling fans who have paid for travel and hotels for the event and don't care anything about the NBA? Who is going to be let down? And at what cost?

    It's a pretty almighty cock up by the people at Denver. I hope ticketholders get sorted out as changing something like that is a massive inconvienence for all concerned.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    Well in this story, there is precedence of the standing event to take priority over a playoff game. Yes, it was hockey, but it happened earlier this year:

    http://www2.nesn.com/nba/2009/05/18/nba ... si-center/

    The situation is the second of its kind in the past month. During the NHL’s Eastern Conference semifinals, the Pittsburgh Penguins and Washington Capitals were forced to play on back-to-back days due to a Yanni concert at Mellon Arena.

    At that time, a WWE event at the arena also factored into the decision.

    This thing is bigger than just the ticketholders, it affects tv. WWE is broadcast live and to find an arena and sell tickets and put on a live show that fits all the travel plans of the company in a week is a big deal. Plus I think WWE gets better tv ratings than the NBA playoffs so ESPN would have to make a financial settlement with USA as well if the event is canceled in case they can't find a new venue in short notice.
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  • mrveddersonmrvedderson Posts: 784
    i think if they did have their event in a parking lot somewhere it would be a lot more special and lucrative for the WWE
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    Fortunately for the WWE, they've got a signed contract...

    Unless the Pepsi Center decides to go back on the contract which will:

    A) not look good to other sport affiliations, corporations, bands/their management, etc.. for a place to schedule their show.

    B) Really be damaging to the Pepsi Center's revenue. If they pull that stint, the WWE will most likely just say piss on them and not return for quite some time. If the people at the Pepsi Center are wise they won't do it. Hopefully they realize some people really like wrestling, and these events DO sell out (suprising :o ? yes.), and make a shit load of money.

    The Pepsi Center should just buckle down, take the hit and reschedule and learn from their mistake..and more importantly remember when you send a contract to a client for them to sign that RESERVES their date.

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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,171
    yes but who do you want to piss off more, the WWE who has one event a year (maybe?) at the Pepsi Center or the Nuggets who host 40-something. If the choice has to be made you have to go with the Nuggets. The question is what choice do they have if WWE has a contract?
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,411
    pjhawks wrote:
    yes but who do you want to piss off more, the WWE who has one event a year (maybe?) at the Pepsi Center or the Nuggets who host 40-something. If the choice has to be made you have to go with the Nuggets. The question is what choice do they have if WWE has a contract?

    In the reports I heard it said the Nuggets own the arena, so the NBA is leaving it up to them. I'd piss off inside business before outside business.
  • The Waiting Trophy ManThe Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    They should have a 30 man battleroyal, WWE vs NBA. Winner gets the arena for the night.
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  • Indian SummerIndian Summer Posts: 2,296
    You can tell that McMahon LOVES this. any publicity is good publicity.

    exactly. He can't carry the NBA's jockstrap...he knows he can't compete with the NBA semifinals....so he's gonna raise hell and get as much coverage as possible on the matter, before he moves venues.
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,883
    edited May 2009
    You can tell that McMahon LOVES this. any publicity is good publicity.

    exactly. He can't carry the NBA's jockstrap...he knows he can't compete with the NBA semifinals....so he's gonna raise hell and get as much coverage as possible on the matter, before he moves venues.

    But he is going to get paid a lot of money by the nuggets to do it.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    You can tell that McMahon LOVES this. any publicity is good publicity.

    exactly. He can't carry the NBA's jockstrap...he knows he can't compete with the NBA semifinals....so he's gonna raise hell and get as much coverage as possible on the matter, before he moves venues.

    Except that the WWE gets better tv ratings than the NBA.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
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    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
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  • Indian SummerIndian Summer Posts: 2,296
    Solat13 wrote:
    You can tell that McMahon LOVES this. any publicity is good publicity.

    exactly. He can't carry the NBA's jockstrap...he knows he can't compete with the NBA semifinals....so he's gonna raise hell and get as much coverage as possible on the matter, before he moves venues.

    Except that the WWE gets better tv ratings than the NBA.

    NBA playoffs though? I would bet not.
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  • no they get better ratings than anything. its the most watched thing on tv. the superbowl is the only televised event that will beat it.
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  • milarsomilarso Posts: 1,280
    You can tell that McMahon LOVES this. any publicity is good publicity.

    I love that he says what he does. It's almost like he knows his "sport" is kind of cheesy so he can be a lot more politically incorrect, because people kind of expect it from him.
    On the radio yesterday he was quoted as saying that the Denver Nuggets' owner "should be arrested for impersonating a good business man."
    Effing hilarious!
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  • Solat13Solat13 Philadelphia Posts: 6,996
    Solat13 wrote:
    Except that the WWE gets better tv ratings than the NBA.

    NBA playoffs though? I would bet not.

    I can't find ESPN's numbers, but TNT has averaged a 2.6 for the playoffs:

    To date, the NBA Playoffs on TNT are averaging a 2.6 US HH rating for 36 games, up 8% over last year (36 games).

    http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=95462

    Raw has average a 3.46 the 5 Mondays since the playoff started:

    http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe-ratings/
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    - 8/28/98
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    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
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    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    They should have a 30 man battleroyal, WWE vs NBA. Winner gets the arena for the night.

    I like this idea. A lot. :D
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,171
    Solat13 wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    Except that the WWE gets better tv ratings than the NBA.

    NBA playoffs though? I would bet not.

    I can't find ESPN's numbers, but TNT has averaged a 2.6 for the playoffs:

    To date, the NBA Playoffs on TNT are averaging a 2.6 US HH rating for 36 games, up 8% over last year (36 games).

    http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=95462

    Raw has average a 3.46 the 5 Mondays since the playoff started:

    http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe-ratings/

    once a week vs. at least 5 or 6 games a week - not comparable. I love these kinds of comparisons with Nascar too - you hold one event a week doesn't compare with multiple events in a week. If you cumulatively added up the NBA ratings over all the games they would smoke wwe (and I don't really like the NBA). I had this argument on the old board regarding baseball vs. nascar last year. People try to claim NASCAR is more popular because they draw over 100,00 each week - I countered that major league baseball draws over 100,000 A NIGHT.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    milarso wrote:
    You can tell that McMahon LOVES this. any publicity is good publicity.

    I love that he says what he does. It's almost like he knows his "sport" is kind of cheesy so he can be a lot more politically incorrect, because people kind of expect it from him.
    On the radio yesterday he was quoted as saying that the Denver Nuggets' owner "should be arrested for impersonating a good business man."
    Effing hilarious!

    Yeah, and I bet the show on Monday is going to be portrayed as this "WWE under siege" mentality, and he'll milk it for all it's worth...

    That being said, knowing from working in different arenas, a WWE live-tv event take s A LOT of work/planning... I feel bad for the people on the ground with WWE and the Staples Center who actually have to pull this off on like 4 days notice over a holiday weekend.
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  • milarsomilarso Posts: 1,280
    pjhawks wrote:

    once a week vs. at least 5 or 6 games a week - not comparable. I love these kinds of comparisons with Nascar too - you hold one event a week doesn't compare with multiple events in a week. If you cumulatively added up the NBA ratings over all the games they would smoke wwe (and I don't really like the NBA). I had this argument on the old board regarding baseball vs. nascar last year. People try to claim NASCAR is more popular because they draw over 100,00 each week - I countered that major league baseball draws over 100,000 A NIGHT.

    I think it is comparable though when you take into account the situation and that you are comparing the viewership of one wrestling show and one basketball game.
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  • milarsomilarso Posts: 1,280

    Yeah, and I bet the show on Monday is going to be portrayed as this "WWE under siege" mentality, and he'll milk it for all it's worth...

    That being said, knowing from working in different arenas, a WWE live-tv event take s A LOT of work/planning... I feel bad for the people on the ground with WWE and the Staples Center who actually have to pull this off on like 4 days notice over a holiday weekend.

    I wonder how many of the wrestlers will be wearing Lakers jerseys...
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    milarso wrote:

    Yeah, and I bet the show on Monday is going to be portrayed as this "WWE under siege" mentality, and he'll milk it for all it's worth...

    That being said, knowing from working in different arenas, a WWE live-tv event take s A LOT of work/planning... I feel bad for the people on the ground with WWE and the Staples Center who actually have to pull this off on like 4 days notice over a holiday weekend.

    I wonder how many of the wrestlers will be wearing Lakers jerseys...

    How did you guess? :D
    McMahon added the Monday show would include a 5-on-5 match pitting "Lakers" against "Nuggets" and his character would likely confront a character of Kroenke, who owns Kroenke Enterprises, in the ring.
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