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Bush set to veto the only bill he should sign.

SuzannePjamSuzannePjam Posts: 411
edited July 2006 in A Moving Train
In a typical Bush style ass-backwards move, Bush will veto the only bill he shoud sign. If there is any kind of justice, Rove and Bush will get Alzheimer's and spend their last years staring at a blank wall.

Rove: Bush to veto DeGette bill

By John Aloysius Farrell
Post Washington Bureau Chief


Karl Rove, deputy chief of staff for President Bush, fields questions during a Denver Post editorial board meeting on July 9, 2006.

President Bush will likely cast the first veto of his presidency if the Senate, as expected, passes legislation to expand federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research, White House aide Karl Rove said today.

"The president is emphatic about this," Rove - Bush's top political advisor and architect of his 2000 and 2004 campaigns - said in a meeting with the editorial board of The Denver Post.

The U.S. House of Representatives has already passed the legislation, co-sponsored by Rep. Diana DeGette, D-Denver, and Rep. Mike Castle, R-Del. If the Senate approves the bill it would go to the president's desk.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., who backs the bill, has said he will try to bring it up for a Senate vote soon.

"It is something we would, frankly, like to avoid," Rove said when asked if the White House would welcome, or dread, vetoing legislation passed by a Republican Congress, especially on so emotional an issue as embryonic stem cell research.

But Rove said that he believes the legislation will pass the Senate with more than 60 votes this month, "and as a result the president would, as he has previously said emphatically, veto the Castle bill."

"I'm appalled that Bush would use the first veto of his presidency to veto a bill that could help 110 million people and their families," DeGette said today after being informed of Rove's remarks.

On another volatile issue - congressional attempts to reform the nation's immigration system - Rove said that immigration legislation had to be "comprehensive" to win Bush's support, but that more controversial proposals like a temporary-worker program might be phased in as the U.S. improves its border security.

Rove said that the behind-the-scene talks between House and Senate negotiators were making "good" progress toward an immigration compromise and that there is still a chance that a bill could be passed before the November election.

In a wide-ranging, 90-minute interview, Rove also defended the Bush administration's policy in Iraq and predicted that Republicans would maintain control of both the House and the Senate in the November election.

The Bush administration's stem cell policy, adopted in 2001, has been to allow federal research funding only for existing lines of embryonic stem cells.

Researchers and patients groups have complained that the policy hinders vital research into treatments for diabetes, Parkinson's disease and other illnesses.

The stem cell legislation is not likely to become law, Rove said, because backers lack the votes needed - two-thirds of each house of Congress - to override a veto.

"We were all an embryo at one point, and we ought to as a society be very careful about being callous about the wanton destruction of embryos, of life," Rove said. Recent research, he said, shows that researchers "have far more promise from adult stem cells than from embryonic stem cells."

If Bush vetoes the stem cell bill, "we will try to override it," DeGette said, adding that support among lawmakers is growing.

Castle and DeGette have requested a meeting with Bush to present their case. "I still hold out hope that the president would give us that courtesy for a meeting," she said.

Rove was in Colorado to speak Sunday at an Aspen Institute forum and to attend several political events, including a Republican gathering tonight in Parker.

Addressing immigration at the editorial board meeting, Rove was receptive to proposals by some congressional Republicans to establish checkpoints at ports of entry to the United States, where existing illegal immigrants would have to go to register, pay a penalty and show proof of employment.

He said that such checkpoints didn't necessarily have to be on the border, but could be located at airports in Denver or Los Angeles, for example, or at ports of entry like New Orleans.

Comprehensive reform is needed because illegal immigrants will inevitably find ways to enter the United States, so long as wages are so high here when compared to other countries.

"You cannot control the border. ... We don't have enough resources," he said. "You've got to do it all together."

Rove said that he advises GOP candidates to back the president's comprehensive approach, despite the fierce opposition of hard-liners within the Republican Party such as Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Littleton.

"I cannot see a single district in which a Republican is going to be advantaged by opposing a comprehensive solution," said Rove.

When asked about the November election, Rove expressed confidence that the Republicans will weather the recent dip in public opinion.

"They are not going to be able to run the table," Rove said, when asked about Democratic hopes to seize the Senate. He predicted that that the GOP would pull off some "surprise" upsets of its own.

And though the public is sour on the ongoing costs of the war, the new Iraqi government "looks like (it will be) able to get this job done," Rove said. As long as there are signs of progress, "at the end of the day, ... the American people do not want the U.S. to be defeated."
"Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand

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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    bush recently had a physical and he is in good health. fuck everyone else....

    seriously, this is a huge opportunity for bush to be remembered for something good. how many people could be helped by stem cell research?? we may never get the chance to find out all because some embryos were destroyed in the process. sometimes you have to break some eggs to make an omelette.

    this man is completely out of touch. maybe some other country will make the advances that scientists here can not.
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    If Bush vetoes the stem cell bill, "we will try to override it," DeGette said, adding that support among lawmakers is growing.

    I hope this is true for 2 reasons: 1) it is the right thing to do, and 2) it would be a big fuck you to the religionists pulling Bush's strings. It will require brave republicans who aren't beholden to the goddam religious right to override this thing.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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    jeffbr wrote:
    I hope this is true for 2 reasons: 1) it is the right thing to do, and 2) it would be a big fuck you to the religionists pulling Bush's strings. It will require brave republicans who aren't beholden to the goddam religious right to override this thing.
    I'd like to add an emphatic "hell yes" to the comments made by the gentleman from Redmond.


    That's what Congress needs to do ;)


    And i bet Rove remembers those blissful days spent killing time, consciously, as an embryo. Don't we all?



    I hope our Government isn't completely defunkt. I just hope Congress does something right for once.
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    EvilToasterElfEvilToasterElf Posts: 1,119
    Well all the Republicans trying to distance themselves from Bush and stay viable for the next term might be able to rally around this, I would imagine most of the swing state republicans will go for it.
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    Well all the Republicans trying to distance themselves from Bush and stay viable for the next term might be able to rally around this, I would imagine most of the swing state republicans will go for it.
    There's still a chance.
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    know1know1 Posts: 6,763
    "the only bill he should sign"??? So he should veto the rest?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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    AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    "the only bill he should sign"??? So he should veto the rest?

    he should step down
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    know1 wrote:
    "the only bill he should sign"??? So he should veto the rest?
    just an expression, but really congress is up their own ass these days. :rolleyes:
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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