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Irving Plaza vs The Vic Theater

camaroscamaros Posts: 1,003
edited February 2008 in The Porch
Irving Plaza VS The Vic Theater

I know the Vic was more recent, but it seems that there as been an infinite amount more discussion about the Vic show 2007-08-02 compared to the Irving plaza show from 2006-05-05. I know Irving lacked a poster, but come on....

People want Vic DVDs and Vic Vinyls.... is it just a Chicago VS New York thing or am I missing something here. Irving fuckin RULED

I went to the Irving show and it was pretty much the coolest thing ever. Being there in the front almost made up for all the shows I missed out on during pearl jam's career.

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    Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    i can only speak for the vic show, but it was INCREDIBLE!

    i know that alot of fans that have been to dozens of shows and had an opportunity to sit front row alot thought the setlist wasnt that great and blah blah blah... but for me it was the most incredible experience ever... my eyes literally teared up at one point out of sheer joy... it was the culmination of years of being a fan... i caught matt's wristband at the end of the show!... i got a mccready pick!... they opened with all or none!... i was so close to the band!... the energy was phenomenal!...

    i think it probably combined with the energy of the weekend as a whole too... people were pumped about lolla... you could tell the band was excited to be playing again to a crowd of all true fans and even more excited at the opportunity to play to so many at lolla.... the venue was incredible for a PJ show... soooo much fun

    i think the poster for the show sucked so that doesnt impact my opinion at all... it was just easily the best experience ill ever have a PJ show... (front row at lolla was good too, but i almost died of dehydration getting that)
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    jezebeloriajezebeloria Posts: 600
    1 word...setlist. Vic's was phenominal.
    PJ FANS ROCK!!!

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    poto101poto101 Posts: 385
    bad setlist????

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    it was their rarest show ever (based on the songs they played), and in hidng was fucking incredible.

    eddie opening for the band was pretty sweet, ben harper came on stage, BLACK DIAMOND WITH MATT SINGING.



    i'm sure irving plaza was an awesome time, as would any show in a venue that small, but based on setlists and sound from bootlegs, The Vic is the winner. yes there is biased but i still think it was more epic show than Irving.
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    Detroit2NYCDetroit2NYC New York, NY Posts: 337
    I was at both shows and both were amazing. I think maybe the reason Vic gets more buzz is because of the rare setlist.

    Also, it seemed that Eddie was really into playing in Chicago. Not that he wasn't excited for IP, but there was a different twinkle in his eye.

    That being said, I think anyone should be lucky to have been to either show. They were both special treats for us all!
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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Vic :)
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    DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    not to insult a show you attended (because it still looks fantastic) but how come this is being compared to the vic? was this an all fanclub show too or something? and though it looks like a great set, it can't touch the vic. i wasn't at either, but if i had to choose to attend one of them, without even a second of thought i'd say the vic. both look fantastic though.
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    goodrocgoodroc Posts: 118
    i was lucky enough to be at both --- not even close


    Vic hands down!!
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    edwf2000edwf2000 Posts: 95
    goodroc wrote:
    i was lucky enough to be at both --- not even close


    Vic hands down!!

    I too was at both and I think they were both great for different reasons. I don't think I could definitively choose one over the other
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    stpmattbstpmattb Posts: 956
    goodroc wrote:
    i was lucky enough to be at both --- not even close


    Vic hands down!!


    I was also at both and still get goosebumps listening to the Vic show. Irving Plaza was really cool, but not as cool as the Vic.
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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,868
    I am a rare song freak, I don't think many shows if any can compare to the concentration and scarcity of the songs played at the VIC. I was not at IP, but hearing it, the Vic just seems to have far more energy.

    The venue and small amount of rabid fans made the Vic a once in a lifetime show. I was probably the 100th in the venue, got a poster first and still got into the front row/second row(kind of a little of both) right in front of Mike.
    Other than way too many flashes and fuckers holding camera phones up in the way of everybodys view, that show was just about as perfect as it can get for me.

    I vote for the VIC
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    a5pja5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,852
    Gotta disagree with everyone. I was at both. Irving was better. Sure the vic had the setlist, that's what everyone raves about. But Irving had the energy, they were ready to start off a tour and raring to go with their best album since yield, the new engine of PJ! The crowd interaction was 100X more at Irving, Stone threw out pics there, he hardly looked at the crowd at the vic. Eddie gave us the option of betterman vs solat, and even came in the crowd during porch. Sure Irving didn't get a pre set but the show was phenomal. Plus I love seeing PJ rock out Animal and Life Wasted and WWS, I missed Animal so much after the vic and lolla.

    But that's just me and I could be wrong (but I'm not). Irving was just hands down a better live show, everyone just goes crazy over the setlist, look at Benny and Boston.

    And the topper, people in NY actually know what a rocking General Admission show is all about, people at the vic actually tried to leave and come back to threir spots on the floor like they owned them, or save spots for people getting posters.
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    aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,118
    And the winner is......








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    a5pja5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,852
    SOLAT319 wrote:
    Totally Irving Plaza!!!

    That version of Garden is absolutely priceless!
    I can't believe I almost forgot about GARDEN, it was AMAZING!! Man I gotta listen to this show again.
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    camaroscamaros Posts: 1,003
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    not to insult a show you attended (because it still looks fantastic) but how come this is being compared to the vic?

    i compare them because i think the venues have about the same capacity (very small)... compared to the huge stadium/arena shows. I'm too lazy to check right now how many each hold.

    but i guess i just have such a high regard for that irving show but it didn't really get much attention here. no poster, no boot, no crazy rarities besides having the first live 'come back' which was sweet.

    wish i was at vic too, but i have to let the rest of you jammers attend some of the good shows...
    i like sound...
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    snipes824snipes824 Posts: 870
    irving by far.
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    camaroscamaros Posts: 1,003
    October22 wrote:
    irving
    this guy has no idea....
    i like sound...
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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,868
    well I just listened to tracks from both, and the Vic got my blood sausage bloated so I say again the Vic.

    is there really a way to answer this? Lets say they both totally kicked ass
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    mookie9999mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    a5pj wrote:
    Gotta disagree with everyone. I was at both. Irving was better. Sure the vic had the setlist, that's what everyone raves about. But Irving had the energy, they were ready to start off a tour and raring to go with their best album since yield, the new engine of PJ! The crowd interaction was 100X more at Irving, Stone threw out pics there, he hardly looked at the crowd at the vic. Eddie gave us the option of betterman vs solat, and even came in the crowd during porch. Sure Irving didn't get a pre set but the show was phenomal. Plus I love seeing PJ rock out Animal and Life Wasted and WWS, I missed Animal so much after the vic and lolla.

    But that's just me and I could be wrong (but I'm not). Irving was just hands down a better live show, everyone just goes crazy over the setlist, look at Benny and Boston.

    And the topper, people in NY actually know what a rocking General Admission show is all about, people at the vic actually tried to leave and come back to threir spots on the floor like they owned them, or save spots for people getting posters.

    Agreed with everything above! To add to it, any show where the crowd sings louder than Ed for the whole fucking song (WWS) shortly after the album is released you know you're in for a special night! Granted I wasn't at the Vic, but taking everything in and listening to the boots I have to stick with IP!
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,074
    I was at neither but heard both shows on cd. i thought the sound for irving was a little shaky but the sound plus the rare songs at the vic made that a better show, but a pearl jam show is a pearl jam show, so i'm sure both were awesome in their own way.
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    KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    When I was a kid...I went to a concert at the Vic. I didnt have my drivers license yet and had to wait for someone to pick me up. Since I was the the last patron waiting.....I sat there and talked to the new owners for about an hour. The reason they bought it was for the "historic" sentimental value and the capacity to create great sound.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    Even though this is a "to each their own" thread, I'm giving my thumbs up to The Vic.
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    4Powers204Powers20 Posts: 1,217
    I was at both and I think the crowd was ALOT better at Irving. Sure the VIC was 10 club, but Irving was filled with people who slept on the street for a day just to get tix. I think the VIC setlist blew away the Irving but the Irving shpw was basically a release party for avacado, the Vic was a warmup show for Lolla.

    In the end if I had to choose, I would have to choose the VIC because you will never see a PJ setlist look like that again.


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    PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    I wasn't at IP so can't talk about it really.

    but if you want to compare the Astoria and the Vic...
    Astoria by a mile..it fucking ROCKED!

    :D
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    Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    Vic!
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    decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,976
    why compare?
    every show is it's *own* ya know?


    i was only at irving plaza so cannot make any comparisons. all i can say is, i was soooooooo happy and thankful to be there, NEVER thought i'd get to see pearl jam in such an intimate venue, was AMAZING!


    special shows all the way around, no doubt. :)
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    a5pja5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,852
    4Powers20 wrote:
    Sure the VIC was 10 club, but Irving was filled with people who slept on the street for a day just to get tix.

    Another reason I forgot to mention, there were no fans at Irving that thought they deserved a spot like at the vic, it was all hard core fans who waited on the street for 23 hours to get in.
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    guertin32guertin32 Posts: 205
    Dude... I was at Irving Plaza... I love that fuckin show...

    check out my you tube video about it...

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    guertin32guertin32 Posts: 205
    bump
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    No Fear Of FallingNo Fear Of Falling Posts: 419
    I wasn't at the Vic..

    but Irving was, and probably will always be, the greatest show i've ever been to.

    Coming off the high that was the Borgata shows a few months earlier, I couldn't even fathom the thought of PJ in an even smaller venue.. and for free. It was just a matter of how bad you wanted it.

    Basically.. lets put 1,000 of the most hardcore PJ fans who would wait on a street for 2 days in a tiny room WITH PJ.. and see the results.

    That night I actually was happy that someone spilled whiskey all over me. It was so hot in that room that the whiskey felt awesome.
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    scottbirdscottbird Posts: 132
    I was working the show at Irving Plaza that day, an incredible amount of energy took over the room that night. I got to meet Ed and see my favorite band where I work. I never thought for a second that that day would come, that Pearl Jam would play Irving Plaza! That day hold an very special place in my heart and life. I was not at the Vic theatre show so I cant comment but Im sure it was equally amazing. Pearl Jam give 100% every show but to see them in these small clubs is a honor. I dont think there were official boots of these shows so you cant really compare sound quality. I just hope they don't ever stop treating fans to these small club gems.
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