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So I was watching the news today..

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    dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    Again, we are not talking about the wars economic effect on you. We have a problem with war being a means of profit for whoever is profitting.



    Of course, I know you don't condone child porn or prostitution or even murder...that was the reason for the analogy. I wanted to compare it to something you would take offense to so you would see the angle I'm looking at it from.



    Where did I say finances don't matter? I think the means of profit do matter. Killing you might make me profit, that could be a reality. But people should be outraged if I discussed it so matter-of-factly and just mentioned all the money I made from your death.

    But your still discussing this from a profit matter. Most people in this country, and around the world, arent worried about profit, they are worried about making ends meet. Fox and CNN have more viewers than any newstations in this country. They are having financial shows geared towards billionaires. Gase prices, electic bills, etc have adverse effects on most of us. And I see nothing wrong with discussin the financial aspect of war. And like I have stated, certainly, the life-death aspect is the most important aspect by far, but it isnt the only aspect. When a war halfway across the world has effects on most of our daily lives, through economics, I see nothing wrong with that being discussed.
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    dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    Well we came into this thread discussing what was brought up by the original poster.
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=3510666&postcount=1

    They weren't discussing the bad financial instances of war but rather the good that can come from it. That is our problem and what we replied to this thread to address. So, I'm left to only conclude you didn't comprehend what we were talking about. I guess just a misunderstanding of where we were coming from?

    Yes, probably a slight disagreement that got turned into something much more. Its late, about my bedtime. But I will stand by my point that finance and ecomics are important to all of us, and there is an economic aspect of war. Positive to some, negative to most of us. But I see no problem discussing that, and being concerned about your economic situation doesnt necessarily give your approval, or even disapproval, of war. I think they can be separate issues to a degree.
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    dg1979us wrote:
    But your still discussing this from a profit matter. Most people in this country, and around the world, arent worried about profit, they are worried about making ends meet. Fox and CNN have more viewers than any newstations in this country. They are having financial shows geared towards billionaires. Gase prices, electic bills, etc have adverse effects on most of us. And I see nothing wrong with discussin the financial aspect of war. And like I have stated, certainly, the life-death aspect is the most important aspect by far, but it isnt the only aspect. When a war halfway across the world has effects on most of our daily lives, through economics, I see nothing wrong with that being discussed.

    I have a problem discussing the good that comes my way due to the death of another. I don't think I should be profitting from death and am outraged by those who do so acceptingly and rationalize it. That is how I see it. I guess we'll have to agree to be different in that aspect. If anything should be discussed about it, it should be how wrong it is...but that is, of course, just my opinion. Some people are fine with boiling anything down to numbers and lose sight of the human aspect of their action/support.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
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    dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    I have a problem discussing the good that comes my way due to the death of another. I don't think I should be profitting from death and am outraged by those who do so acceptingly and rationalize it. That is how I see it. I guess we'll have to agree to be different in that aspect. If anything should be discussed about it, it should be how wrong it is...but that is, of course, just my opinion. Some people are fine with boiling anything down to numbers and lose sight of the human aspect of their action/support.

    I dont disagree with the aspects of war should be what is discussed. But, I still dont see the harm in discussing all aspects of it. Like Ive said, the life-death aspect certainly is the most important. But on a show designed to discuss financial aspects, with financial people, then, we will disagree on this, but I think the financial aspect and their area of expertise if what they should discuss. But its my bedtime, nice discussion. I can agree to disagree with a level of civility, at least I hope it comes across that way.
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    rightonduderightondude Posts: 745
    I guess I really can't be surprised that some people just don't care who dies or is killed these days. We all go to movie theatres to be entertained by it.

    I guess seperating fact from fiction eludes a lot of people's comprehension. It would defintely seem that way.

    A perfect example of evolution in reverse.

    The bottom line is that the US is distributing weapons worldwide and wholesale the twisted sick f---ks

    Correct the situation. Ha!...what total bullcrap nonsense.

    Help create the problem then go in and fix it. Yeah...good ol US of A foreign policy .
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