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Ric 360 for my Townshend SG?

House53House53 Posts: 1,276
edited June 2004 in Musicians and Gearheads
I have a trade offer for my Townshend... (I know, another one :D)

a beautiful Maple Glo Ric 360 w/ hi gain pups in great condition... I believe it is an '89... straight up trade.

I played the Ric this weekend... it was really fast for rhythm playing. It had a most outstanding tone, especially with open chords... they rang out and had a good amount of authority with some overdrive in the mix.

How would you all compare these two guitars? pluses/minuses... any other thoughts would be appreciated.

The Ric seesm like the ideal rhythm guitar, but not as strong for lead work as the SG... While the SG is a great rhythm and lead instrument.
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    exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    Originally posted by House53

    The Ric seesm like the ideal rhythm guitar, but not as strong for lead work as the SG... While the SG is a great rhythm and lead instrument.

    nuff said.

    the only other thing is the neck on the ricks. love em or hate em.
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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    so as a rhythm player... would you say the Ric is a better instrument for what I do?

    or is the versatility of the SG a better fit?

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    Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Well, both are great. you hit it on the nose. Either will sound good in your set up. I think the 360 is more jangly and resonant, it's a love and hate thing, you could still play lead, but it's not near as comfortable as the sg. Both are classics. I'd still stay with the SG. I think it's more versatile. Hell, listen to how much rhythm Townsend plays with the who. A good portion of the lead work especially in the early who stuff actually goes to Moon and Entwistle
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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    exactly... Live at Leeds is a great example of the rhythm capabilities for the SG Special...

    While, early who work is a great example of the Ric...

    although I played the Ric through an Orange AD30... it got pretty nasty when it needed to... that was a pleasant suprise.
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    exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    rics are more distinctive sounding and in my opinion not as versatile but i only have a 330-12 so i'm really in the niche area.

    5 electric guitars. that will solve your problems. :)
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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    Two is my self imposed limit. One of those is occupied by my homemade tele... so, that's why it isn't an option to just "add" another guitar.

    I thought the Ric wouldn't be very versatile either, but I plugged it in and it did well in a variety of gain and style settings... I think the fact that it is a six string makes it a little less "ricky" than yours.
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    exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    definitely. the 12-strig is pretty limiting.

    those pickups drive pretty hard which is great. it's just a brighter sound than the SG and maybe even more than the tele.

    i imagine the SG is nice and dark.
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    Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    It's got plenty of nast to it at the gain settings, lots of punk bands use them actually. Real pain in the ass to do maintence though. I dig the slim 60's Gibson ES 125's and Casinos of the era for that same type of sound. Tom Petty loves them and I'm unsure of the amps of nowdays but the way huge red llama overdrive is very tweedy sounding and he always uses it I think. I mean any EL-84 amp vox, orange etc is going to sound fantastic. It's practically made for them.

    It's a cool sound but not worthy in my opinion of being 1 of your 2.
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    cltaylor12cltaylor12 Posts: 125
    OMG give up the 360 Ric for an SG......


    .... I don't think I could do it.

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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by cltaylor12
    OMG give up the 360 Ric for an SG......


    .... I don't think I could do it.

    c-

    No the other way around.

    I have a Townshend Sig SG... the one with P-90s, and some other "features"

    I could trade for a Rick 360...
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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    It is appropriate that my 500th post dealth with trading gear... since approximately 55.38% of my posts deal with that.

    :D
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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    It's got plenty of nast to it at the gain settings, lots of punk bands use them actually. Real pain in the ass to do maintence though. I dig the slim 60's Gibson ES 125's and Casinos of the era for that same type of sound. Tom Petty loves them and I'm unsure of the amps of nowdays but the way huge red llama overdrive is very tweedy sounding and he always uses it I think. I mean any EL-84 amp vox, orange etc is going to sound fantastic. It's practically made for them.

    It's a cool sound but not worthy in my opinion of being 1 of your 2.

    Tom Petty does know how to rock... but he plays a tele and an SG alot too.

    I think he uses a Marshall of some kind... his last tour he did at least.

    I am unsure if the tone would be too close to my Tele.

    Like exhausted mentioned... the SG is nice and dark... it is a good contrast to the tele.
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    cltaylor12cltaylor12 Posts: 125
    Originally posted by House53
    No the other way around.

    I have a Townshend Sig SG... the one with P-90s, and some other "features"

    I could trade for a Rick 360...
    The Signature SG!?! That's just as hard (of a trade). I couldn't do it either way 'round. If my life depended upon it I would not be able to make that choice. They are both absolutely beautiful! I've spend many an hour drooling over pictures of them, and finally had to stop looking at eBay auctions and stuff because I was driving myself insane with desire.....
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    exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    all guitars have a range. the goal here is to pick the two that give you the most coverage of the range you need for your music.

    i honestly think i'd dump the tele since tele's only have 1 or 2 sounds it seems. but that's not an option here.
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    Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    well honestly, you're shopping because it's fun to shop but really you're going to be very hard pressed to find an everyday work guitar that suits you better than your tele or your SG. They are both essentially perfect and a good balance for what you do.
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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by exhausted
    all guitars have a range. the goal here is to pick the two that give you the most coverage of the range you need for your music.

    i honestly think i'd dump the tele since tele's only have 1 or 2 sounds it seems. but that's not an option here.

    Woah... Tele's have a lot more than one or two sounds...

    They do the twang thing, sure... but they do beautiful cleans, good rock rhythm, and can get very nasty when pushed.

    I think a tele is very versatile.
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    exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    i've never been able to use the bridge position on any fender-style guitar for whatever reason. i guess i just don't like the sound.
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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    a Tele bridge pup with a good dose of overdrive and the tone rolled off slightly is a killer lead tone...

    I have never played a Strat bridge pup I like that well.

    I think any guitar is pretty versatile when you get down to it... I think some are more versatile than others...

    I think Pacomc makes my same conclusion... shopping is fun... but the SG/Tele cover my bases very well... they are a great duo for gigging.
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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    well,

    the ric 360 seems like it has support, but not a strong approval v. the SG... makes sense

    I will have to convince my other friend to buy the Ric so I can at least play it some more...

    seems like a good solution.
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    puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    I've been playing my ric 360, 6 string, I run it through a a little 2x12 marshall reissued bluebreaker. The balance is perfect. I also use that amp for my SG. They're two different sounds all together. From your many setlists, I'd stay with the SG, but the RIC would surely highlight some of of those songs if your the rythm guitarist. The RIC has dual truss so you can adjust either side the neck. The bridge has individual strings saddles so you can play around for the perfect intonation. You probably noticed that when you were play around on it. I have two single vintage ric pickups, the sound is amazing w/this amp, and when I hit a wrong chord its awesomely bad. I wouldn't trade one for the other.
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    House53House53 Posts: 1,276
    thanks for the thoughts... it is a tough call for sure.

    I really think it is just about a draw between the two... which generally means, I keep what I have.

    However, I might have to give the Ric another try if it is still in my mind or available in a couple of weeks...
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