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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    I heard this morning that the state seats are moving towards 400 flipped.  On Wed it was like 330, so it wouldn't surprise me that many more have been added since then.  
  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,769
    edited November 2018
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :) And that's just the House. There are also Governorships, those State Seats and more.


    Post edited by Kat on
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    Subpoena power is quite important. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    Subpoena power is quite important. 
    Yup. Impeachment powers are greater!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    yes EO he will be filling those out by the hundreds by the time it's all over ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    Subpoena power is quite important. 
    Ah yes this is what's really scaring the PRP ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,814
    edited November 2018
    It was a smallish wave compared to previous presidents in year two.

    Regarding the Senators, losing the seats bothers me some but the Dems were playing defense.  What really bothers me is that voting against Kavanaugh was a huge death blow for a few democratic senators.  Trump would be crazy not to appoint Roy Moore next time.  Dem Senators would be screwed.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    Subpoena power is quite important. 
    Yup. Impeachment powers are greater!
    And X-ray vision is the best.  But you need to subpoena to impeach.  In my mind, if the 'high crimes' are not able able to gain any Republican votes in the Senate, well they probably are not high crimes.  You need 2/3.  I don't think anyone thought that 66 Democratic Senators was happening.  Were there even enough races for that?
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  • dignin said:

    Three days later: Hey, Republicans really did get clobbered


    It turns out the 2018 midterm elections were pretty much a rout. Counting all the votes makes all the difference in the world.

    In the House, as of this writing, the Democratic gains are up to 30 with about five more races still to be called — in which Democrats are leading. A gain of 35 seats would be the largest House pickup for Democrats since the first post-Watergate midterm election in 1974.

    The Democrats picked up seven governorships, with Stacey Abrams, as of now, still fighting to make it to a runoff in Georgia, and Andrew Gillum trailing by 0.4 percentage points, enough to trigger a recount in Florida.

    In the Senate, Democrats may not quite have pulled off an inside straight, but they had two aces — in Nevada and Arizona. With 26 seats to defend, many in red states, it now looks as if their losses will be small. Democrats won in Nevada and are now poised to pick up a seat in Arizona. In the latter, Rep. Krysten Sinema surged into the lead as additional Maricopa County ballots were counted.)

    Meanwhile, Democrats have an outside chance to hold on to Florida. There, Republican Gov. Rick Scott leads by only 0.2 percentage points over Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson. If Sinema and Nelson win, Republicans, in a year with the most favorable map in recent history, would pick up only a net of one seat (52 to 48); if Sinema wins but Nelson doesn’t, Republicans would only eke out a net gain of two seats (53 to 47). That’s simply remarkable considering they had to defend incumbents in the following in states President Trump won, in some cases by double digits: Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Montana, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, West Virginia, Pennsylvania and North Dakota. As conservative Quin Hillyer put it, one would reasonably expect “Republicans on this map, in this economy . . .  [to gain] at least five seats, with six or seven more likely than three or four.”

    Simply because Trump did not see all these losses on Election Night does not make them any less real or consequential for Republicans. Put differently, outside the deepest-red enclaves Republicans took a beating up and down the ballot.

    Remember, states also passed ballot initiatives to raise the minimum wage, to expand voting access and to legalize marijuana; you have to wonder whether Trump and his ilk realize they are in retreat politically and policy-wise.

    If you then turn to exit polls, voters said by big margins: they disapprove of Trump (54 percent to 45 percent ); regard the GOP unfavorably (52 percent to 44 percent); think the country is on the wrong track (54 percent to 42 percent), thought Trump’s immigration policies were too harsh (46 percent, with 33 percent saying they were about right and 17 saying not tough enough); favor tougher gun laws (59 percent to 37 percent); think his foreign policy makes the country less safe (46 percent to 38 percent); disapprove of Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh (47 percent to 44 percent); want to uphold Roe v. Wade (66 percent to 25 percent); think it is somewhat or very important to elect more minorities (72 percent to 24 percent) and somewhat or very important to elect more women (78 percent to 20 percent); think sexual harassment is a big problem (84 percent to 14 percent); and are more concerned about people being denied the right to vote than voter fraud (53 percent to 36 percent).

    It drives Trump’s critics to distraction to watch him dominate every news cycle and repeat lies that have long since been debunked. They should be upset ; the president’s lies, racism, meanness and ignorance debase the presidency. However, Trump’s not helping himself or his party. To the contrary, Democrats just had an extremely successful election and are winning most major policy debates. They should send him a nice fruit basket or something for the holidays.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/11/09/three-days-later-hey-republicans-really-did-get-clobbered/?utm_term=.d3c5041d3161

    Blue ripple...
    Big ‘ol can of ass whooping. Buh, buh,buh Hillary. Or is it Bernie?
     
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    https://apple.news/ADO8W72gTSb-1BBw2lyeh0A
    PRP at it again what’s next he will call the winners of these recounts? It’s unreal that no Republican house or Senate members are not calling him out ..
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  • Team Mueller’s report is going to be definitive. It’s going to be fact based, supported by bank records, Internet traffic logs, exhaustive explanations in layman’s terms of how things work, witness testimony and publicly made statements. And it’s all going to stand up to the sniff test. Again, if you’re innocent, what are you worried about?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    Biggest gains in almost 50 years. But, yeah, no big deal right?


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  • njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    Subpoena power is quite important. 
    Yup. Impeachment powers are greater!
    And X-ray vision is the best.  But you need to subpoena to impeach.  In my mind, if the 'high crimes' are not able able to gain any Republican votes in the Senate, well they probably are not high crimes.  You need 2/3.  I don't think anyone thought that 66 Democratic Senators was happening.  Were there even enough races for that?
    :lol: x-ray vision. That was good. 

    Dems have flipped more seats in the House since after Watergate. It is not easy to flip House seats - gerrymandering & all. Women have beat incumbent men all over the country and Dems have won in red states on both the House and State level. Dems have picked up 7 governorships. 

    Florida Senate is at less than .25%, so that triggers a manual recount (hanging chads, AH)  and they are still doing the absentee and provisional ballots. Florida is incompetent for sure, that isn't the same as rigged. Turnout was at the same level as Presidential elections which does not occur for midterms. People between 18-35 voted at over 30%, which is the highest midterm level in modern history. Latinos voted at about 20%, a number that Dems have been wanting for a long time.  Rick Scott is filing lawsuits because of those horrible liberals (way to represent everyone in the state, NOT) and Trump is tweeting about 'finding ballots'. People voted in large numbers and used the absentee ballots available and Broward County is unprepared and checking signatures which is taking forever. 

    The Florida Governor race is now at  ,4% so that triggers an automatic recount. Gillum conceded too early but he can unconcede whenever he wants. Regardless, the recount is occurring. And there is also an Agriculture Secretary involved in a recount. So that makes 3 (Florida, Florida, Florida). 

    Georgia has so many lawsuits going on and not all the votes have been counted (no one knows how many are outstanding because the Secretary of State that runs elections is running for governor and refused/es to recuse). He is at 50.3 and if he falls below the 3/10 percent there is a new election in December. There was definitely rigging going on in Georgia but it had nothing to do with people abusing the right to vote - it was voter suppression. There should be a law that does not allow a person running for office to oversee the election - that is blatant conflict. But Trump is tweeting about rigged elections in Georgia.

    Arizona Senate has the Dem candidate in the lead and there are still absentee ballots to count. They have said the number is about 450,000 and they are mostly from Maricopa County which is favorable to the Dem. They update the number at 5pm each day. But Trump is tweeting about finding ballots. Cindy McCain tweeted that she is one of those absentee ballots and she was under the impression that every vote counted. 

    Muslims, refugees, openly gay, female, veterans, ex-DOJ personnel and the mother of  Jordan Davis (the black kid who was shot by a white asshole because he didn't like the volume of the music coming from his car and is now serving life w/out parole)  these are all the types of people that won races. This is absolutely a rebuff of Trump and Trumpism. 

    Did Dems lose 3 Senate seats - yes, but the Senate has nowhere near a super majority. They have a couple more Senators. And MItt Romney is one of them and he is no fan of Trump, so perhaps there can be some comity with Dems and Reps in the Senate. Some.

    The only way this was a ripple is if you are comparing it to the awesome Grateful Dead song - then this absolutely was a most beautiful blue ripple. 


    https://youtu.be/JT8zLTaKxeE

    :smiley:
  • njnancy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    Subpoena power is quite important. 
    Yup. Impeachment powers are greater!
    And X-ray vision is the best.  But you need to subpoena to impeach.  In my mind, if the 'high crimes' are not able able to gain any Republican votes in the Senate, well they probably are not high crimes.  You need 2/3.  I don't think anyone thought that 66 Democratic Senators was happening.  Were there even enough races for that?
    :lol: x-ray vision. That was good. 

    Dems have flipped more seats in the House since after Watergate. It is not easy to flip House seats - gerrymandering & all. Women have beat incumbent men all over the country and Dems have won in red states on both the House and State level. Dems have picked up 7 governorships. 

    Florida Senate is at less than .25%, so that triggers a manual recount (hanging chads, AH)  and they are still doing the absentee and provisional ballots. Florida is incompetent for sure, that isn't the same as rigged. Turnout was at the same level as Presidential elections which does not occur for midterms. People between 18-35 voted at over 30%, which is the highest midterm level in modern history. Latinos voted at about 20%, a number that Dems have been wanting for a long time.  Rick Scott is filing lawsuits because of those horrible liberals (way to represent everyone in the state, NOT) and Trump is tweeting about 'finding ballots'. People voted in large numbers and used the absentee ballots available and Broward County is unprepared and checking signatures which is taking forever. 

    The Florida Governor race is now at  ,4% so that triggers an automatic recount. Gillum conceded too early but he can unconcede whenever he wants. Regardless, the recount is occurring. And there is also an Agriculture Secretary involved in a recount. So that makes 3 (Florida, Florida, Florida). 

    Georgia has so many lawsuits going on and not all the votes have been counted (no one knows how many are outstanding because the Secretary of State that runs elections is running for governor and refused/es to recuse). He is at 50.3 and if he falls below the 3/10 percent there is a new election in December. There was definitely rigging going on in Georgia but it had nothing to do with people abusing the right to vote - it was voter suppression. There should be a law that does not allow a person running for office to oversee the election - that is blatant conflict. But Trump is tweeting about rigged elections in Georgia.

    Arizona Senate has the Dem candidate in the lead and there are still absentee ballots to count. They have said the number is about 450,000 and they are mostly from Maricopa County which is favorable to the Dem. They update the number at 5pm each day. But Trump is tweeting about finding ballots. Cindy McCain tweeted that she is one of those absentee ballots and she was under the impression that every vote counted. 

    Muslims, refugees, openly gay, female, veterans, ex-DOJ personnel and the mother of  Jordan Davis (the black kid who was shot by a white asshole because he didn't like the volume of the music coming from his car and is now serving life w/out parole)  these are all the types of people that won races. This is absolutely a rebuff of Trump and Trumpism. 

    Did Dems lose 3 Senate seats - yes, but the Senate has nowhere near a super majority. They have a couple more Senators. And MItt Romney is one of them and he is no fan of Trump, so perhaps there can be some comity with Dems and Reps in the Senate. Some.

    The only way this was a ripple is if you are comparing it to the awesome Grateful Dead song - then this absolutely was a most beautiful blue ripple. 


    https://youtu.be/JT8zLTaKxeE

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    But the black vote and unions? How’d they stack up? Asking for a friend.
     
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  • njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    njnancy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    Subpoena power is quite important. 
    Yup. Impeachment powers are greater!
    And X-ray vision is the best.  But you need to subpoena to impeach.  In my mind, if the 'high crimes' are not able able to gain any Republican votes in the Senate, well they probably are not high crimes.  You need 2/3.  I don't think anyone thought that 66 Democratic Senators was happening.  Were there even enough races for that?
    :lol: x-ray vision. That was good. 

    Dems have flipped more seats in the House since after Watergate. It is not easy to flip House seats - gerrymandering & all. Women have beat incumbent men all over the country and Dems have won in red states on both the House and State level. Dems have picked up 7 governorships. 

    Florida Senate is at less than .25%, so that triggers a manual recount (hanging chads, AH)  and they are still doing the absentee and provisional ballots. Florida is incompetent for sure, that isn't the same as rigged. Turnout was at the same level as Presidential elections which does not occur for midterms. People between 18-35 voted at over 30%, which is the highest midterm level in modern history. Latinos voted at about 20%, a number that Dems have been wanting for a long time.  Rick Scott is filing lawsuits because of those horrible liberals (way to represent everyone in the state, NOT) and Trump is tweeting about 'finding ballots'. People voted in large numbers and used the absentee ballots available and Broward County is unprepared and checking signatures which is taking forever. 

    The Florida Governor race is now at  ,4% so that triggers an automatic recount. Gillum conceded too early but he can unconcede whenever he wants. Regardless, the recount is occurring. And there is also an Agriculture Secretary involved in a recount. So that makes 3 (Florida, Florida, Florida). 

    Georgia has so many lawsuits going on and not all the votes have been counted (no one knows how many are outstanding because the Secretary of State that runs elections is running for governor and refused/es to recuse). He is at 50.3 and if he falls below the 3/10 percent there is a new election in December. There was definitely rigging going on in Georgia but it had nothing to do with people abusing the right to vote - it was voter suppression. There should be a law that does not allow a person running for office to oversee the election - that is blatant conflict. But Trump is tweeting about rigged elections in Georgia.

    Arizona Senate has the Dem candidate in the lead and there are still absentee ballots to count. They have said the number is about 450,000 and they are mostly from Maricopa County which is favorable to the Dem. They update the number at 5pm each day. But Trump is tweeting about finding ballots. Cindy McCain tweeted that she is one of those absentee ballots and she was under the impression that every vote counted. 

    Muslims, refugees, openly gay, female, veterans, ex-DOJ personnel and the mother of  Jordan Davis (the black kid who was shot by a white asshole because he didn't like the volume of the music coming from his car and is now serving life w/out parole)  these are all the types of people that won races. This is absolutely a rebuff of Trump and Trumpism. 

    Did Dems lose 3 Senate seats - yes, but the Senate has nowhere near a super majority. They have a couple more Senators. And MItt Romney is one of them and he is no fan of Trump, so perhaps there can be some comity with Dems and Reps in the Senate. Some.

    The only way this was a ripple is if you are comparing it to the awesome Grateful Dead song - then this absolutely was a most beautiful blue ripple. 


    https://youtu.be/JT8zLTaKxeE

    :smiley:
    But the black vote and unions? How’d they stack up? Asking for a friend.
     
    :rofl:
  • njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    njnancy said:
    njnancy said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    They needed 23 and got 37 so far. Pretty big wave to me. :)


    It’s really good. But losing senate seats is not good. And unless counts/recounts change the original projected outcomes, losing in Texas with their rockstar candidate, losing in GA governor race, losing in Florida all around and Ohio not being a competition hardly in house or governor race isn’t what I was hoping for. Still shows a very split nation. Very close to 50-50.

    but they did enough, just not as much as was hoped.
    I'm looking at it like this , if the house didn't flip the racist pig would had no checks on him but now come january everything will be different for him he won't have carte blanche no more ....
    Except of course executive orders ;)

    But yes I understand. 
    Subpoena power is quite important. 
    Yup. Impeachment powers are greater!
    And X-ray vision is the best.  But you need to subpoena to impeach.  In my mind, if the 'high crimes' are not able able to gain any Republican votes in the Senate, well they probably are not high crimes.  You need 2/3.  I don't think anyone thought that 66 Democratic Senators was happening.  Were there even enough races for that?
    :lol: x-ray vision. That was good. 

    Dems have flipped more seats in the House since after Watergate. It is not easy to flip House seats - gerrymandering & all. Women have beat incumbent men all over the country and Dems have won in red states on both the House and State level. Dems have picked up 7 governorships. 

    Florida Senate is at less than .25%, so that triggers a manual recount (hanging chads, AH)  and they are still doing the absentee and provisional ballots. Florida is incompetent for sure, that isn't the same as rigged. Turnout was at the same level as Presidential elections which does not occur for midterms. People between 18-35 voted at over 30%, which is the highest midterm level in modern history. Latinos voted at about 20%, a number that Dems have been wanting for a long time.  Rick Scott is filing lawsuits because of those horrible liberals (way to represent everyone in the state, NOT) and Trump is tweeting about 'finding ballots'. People voted in large numbers and used the absentee ballots available and Broward County is unprepared and checking signatures which is taking forever. 

    The Florida Governor race is now at  ,4% so that triggers an automatic recount. Gillum conceded too early but he can unconcede whenever he wants. Regardless, the recount is occurring. And there is also an Agriculture Secretary involved in a recount. So that makes 3 (Florida, Florida, Florida). 

    Georgia has so many lawsuits going on and not all the votes have been counted (no one knows how many are outstanding because the Secretary of State that runs elections is running for governor and refused/es to recuse). He is at 50.3 and if he falls below the 3/10 percent there is a new election in December. There was definitely rigging going on in Georgia but it had nothing to do with people abusing the right to vote - it was voter suppression. There should be a law that does not allow a person running for office to oversee the election - that is blatant conflict. But Trump is tweeting about rigged elections in Georgia.

    Arizona Senate has the Dem candidate in the lead and there are still absentee ballots to count. They have said the number is about 450,000 and they are mostly from Maricopa County which is favorable to the Dem. They update the number at 5pm each day. But Trump is tweeting about finding ballots. Cindy McCain tweeted that she is one of those absentee ballots and she was under the impression that every vote counted. 

    Muslims, refugees, openly gay, female, veterans, ex-DOJ personnel and the mother of  Jordan Davis (the black kid who was shot by a white asshole because he didn't like the volume of the music coming from his car and is now serving life w/out parole)  these are all the types of people that won races. This is absolutely a rebuff of Trump and Trumpism. 

    Did Dems lose 3 Senate seats - yes, but the Senate has nowhere near a super majority. They have a couple more Senators. And MItt Romney is one of them and he is no fan of Trump, so perhaps there can be some comity with Dems and Reps in the Senate. Some.

    The only way this was a ripple is if you are comparing it to the awesome Grateful Dead song - then this absolutely was a most beautiful blue ripple. 


    https://youtu.be/JT8zLTaKxeE

    :smiley:
    But the black vote and unions? How’d they stack up? Asking for a friend.
     
    :rofl:
    Oh, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania - gone, gone, gone - so much for the Dems ignoring the Rust Belt. 

    And the ballot initiatives are not Trump friendly. Yes to legalization of marijuana, yes to Medicaid expansion (AKA Obamacare). 

    There is the party of Trump for sure, but do you think that Republican Senators from say Colorado are gonna be sucking up to Trump when the shit hits the fan. Plenty of 2020 seats up in districts that have rejected Trumpism.  

    Trump is going to cause chaos and insanity for sure. But hopefully he will be put out of his misery pretty soon. And the Michelle Obama smack down really got to him. Poor 70 year old really hates those intelligent black women putting him in his place. 

    His idea of the country is dying, this is the last gasp of the white racists.They will have to go back to their hidey holes. It won't be right away, but the tide is changing. The majority of America may have been sleeping in 2016, but an insane, racist, sexist, xenophobic President has woke up plenty of people. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
    Well I'll be damned, it turned out to be a wave after all.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-had-better-election-night-200007391.html

    The “blue wave” took a little longer to crest than usual, but after several days of vote counting it looks like Democrats beat the historical average for the midterm elections.

    With more races called since Election Night, Democrats have netted 30 seats in the House and are leading in five others.

    The midterms mean the White House, on average in all 25 non-presidential cycles in the last century, loses 29 allies in the House. It appears House Democrats are just past that benchmark, outpacing the gains of at least 12 other midterm election cycles since 1918.

    Typically, the party controlling the White House — in this case, Republicans — loses seats in midterm elections. In the last hundred years, only three times has the party in the White House seen gains in non-presidential years.

    It wasn’t just the the House. Democrats picked up at least seven governors’ offices. The Senate map remains contingent on incredibly close races in Arizona and Florida; Democrats appear to have an advantage in Arizona, while Republicans in Florida have the advantage for now. Mississippi, which backed Donald Trump’s presidential bid in 2016 with 58% of the vote, won’t pick its Senator until a Nov. 27 runoff.

    All of which is to say: There was a resettling of America’s politics this week. Voters in large numbers — 52 million and counting — decided House Democrats were the right roadblocks for Trump and said a record 100 women should be part of that mix. Voters booted Republicans from governors’ mansions in Michigan and Wisconsin, and held it in Pennsylvania, three states that were crucial for Trump’s 2016 win and his 2020 re-election bid. And the Senate, which began with Democrats facing a terrible uphill climb, is likely to fight to a draw.

    Democratic activists and strategists are still debating — some, quite aggressively and publicly — what fueled their successes. All corners of the still-fractured Democratic Party were trying to claim credit, and there’s plenty of reason for each tribe to celebrate. Even so, the fight for credit suggests the silent 2020 presidential primary is already underway.

    Still, the midterms were among the most divisive in recent memory.

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    This is good news...I think. ;)

    well it was necessary anyhow after the R’s gave their party over to trump at most levels 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    This didn't even address the now 373 and counting pickup seats at the state level. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    mrussel1 said:
    This didn't even address the now 373 and counting pickup seats at the state level. 
    My home district state Senate seat went from red to blue. 
    And I just happened to be their when the Democrat candidate got the call telling  her she had won after 3 days of counting.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    edited November 2018
    mrussel1 said:
    This didn't even address the now 373 and counting pickup seats at the state level. 
    My home district state Senate seat went from red to blue. 
    And I just happened to be their when the Democrat candidate got the call telling  her she had won after 3 days of counting.
    Too bad you weren’t there /s
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    mrussel1 said:
    This didn't even address the now 373 and counting pickup seats at the state level. 
    My home district state Senate seat went from red to blue. 
    And I just happened to be their when the Democrat candidate got the call telling  her she had won after 3 days of counting.
    Too bad you weren’t there /s
    But I was they're 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,739
    mrussel1 said:
    This didn't even address the now 373 and counting pickup seats at the state level. 
    My home district state Senate seat went from red to blue. 
    And I just happened to be their when the Democrat candidate got the call telling  her she had won after 3 days of counting.
    Too bad you weren’t there /s
    But I was they're 
    No lol. “But I was there.”  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    mrussel1 said:
    This didn't even address the now 373 and counting pickup seats at the state level. 
    My home district state Senate seat went from red to blue. 
    And I just happened to be their when the Democrat candidate got the call telling  her she had won after 3 days of counting.
    Too bad you weren’t there /s
    But I was they're 
    :)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1 said:
    This didn't even address the now 373 and counting pickup seats at the state level. 
    My home district state Senate seat went from red to blue. 
    And I just happened to be their when the Democrat candidate got the call telling  her she had won after 3 days of counting.
    Too bad you weren’t there /s
    But I was they're 
    :)
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