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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,034
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    November is a strong lean to the Dems right now.  As I said above the way to hurt yourself with Independents and Undecided's is by turning them off to the process. the majority knows the republicans are assholes right now.  if you become an asshole you can only hurt yourself in the short term.  keep them engaged.
    And when the Red Wave hits, it won't be because of "going dirty."  It will be because this is who we are; Trump is who we are.  And if I happen to be wrong and those polls have any merit whatsoever, holding up Kavanaugh is not going to change that.  I'd say that if anything, we're numb to this stuff.  
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    edited September 18
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
    Is Team Trump Treason not deplorable and by extension those folks who voted for him? It’s not like Team Trump Treason is squeaky clean and was called that. Going negative, when warranted and accurate, works. Not responding does not.
    the point was she made a big deal out of "when they go low, we go high". calling his supporters names was not going high. true or not is not relevant. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    November is a strong lean to the Dems right now.  As I said above the way to hurt yourself with Independents and Undecided's is by turning them off to the process. the majority knows the republicans are assholes right now.  if you become an asshole you can only hurt yourself in the short term.  keep them engaged.
    you'll have to forgive my lack of confidence in polls these days. HC had a 98% chance of being president according to pretty much every poll out there. 
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,236
    The Kavanaugh selection must all be about his views that basically presidents are above the law though, right?
    There must be a hundred qualified very conservative judges whose decisions would be 100% predictable in the GOP's direction, yet they chose someone who has perjured himself multiple times, had all that debt (gambling?) mysteriously disappear and about 90% of whose record they have had to keep hidden from the public as it is too toxic for the mainstream, all before the rape allegations.

    Plus it is very confusing that his drunk loser school buddy has the last name Judge.  
    The GOP aren't the only people out there that want an imperial presidency. 
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,236
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    November is a strong lean to the Dems right now.  As I said above the way to hurt yourself with Independents and Undecided's is by turning them off to the process. the majority knows the republicans are assholes right now.  if you become an asshole you can only hurt yourself in the short term.  keep them engaged.
    you'll have to forgive my lack of confidence in polls these days. HC had a 98% chance of being president according to pretty much every poll out there. 
    And then the election was hacked and votes were manipulated 

    Unless of course you believe the official narrative that hacking and meddling occured but under no circumstance were vote totals tampered with. Yeah, ok, sure. Russia is a convenient fall guy, more interests than the Russians wanted this loser in there. So far, so good. 
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  • mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
    Is Team Trump Treason not deplorable and by extension those folks who voted for him? It’s not like Team Trump Treason is squeaky clean and was called that. Going negative, when warranted and accurate, works. Not responding does not.
    the point was she made a big deal out of "when they go low, we go high". calling his supporters names was not going high. true or not is not relevant. 
    That was Michelle.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
    Is Team Trump Treason not deplorable and by extension those folks who voted for him? It’s not like Team Trump Treason is squeaky clean and was called that. Going negative, when warranted and accurate, works. Not responding does not.
    the point was she made a big deal out of "when they go low, we go high". calling his supporters names was not going high. true or not is not relevant. 
    That was Michelle.
    hillary co-opted it. 
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,258
    I say his accuser is full of sh*t.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,258
    Her lawyer is the vice chair of a Soros funded group that is fighting the nomination.  
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    bring out the tin foil. 
  • mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
    Is Team Trump Treason not deplorable and by extension those folks who voted for him? It’s not like Team Trump Treason is squeaky clean and was called that. Going negative, when warranted and accurate, works. Not responding does not.
    the point was she made a big deal out of "when they go low, we go high". calling his supporters names was not going high. true or not is not relevant. 
    That was Michelle.
    hillary co-opted it. 
    And you saw what that got us. This sums it up quite nicely.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-beyer/when-they-go-low-we-go-lo_b_13377560.html

    Today the fascists are among us, and preparing to take control of the federal government. For four decades, the Republican party has worked assiduously to destroy that government, to, in Grover Norquist’s words, starve it to such a degree that it could be flushed down the bathtub.

    Today that Republican party no longer exists. The coming government, Republican in name only, is a fascist government - a plutocratic, kleptocratic kakistocracy, people so vile, incompetent, and unskilled that they were held at arm’s length by previous Republican administrations. A circus of incompetence and right wing extremism, driven by bigotry in all its manifestations.

    Our battle against fascism is now a battle at home. A civil war.

    The Democratic party, now not the minority party but the opposition party, must not collaborate with the fascists. Ever. If there are sane Republicans left, then by all means recruit them into a new alliance against fascism, and work together in your defiance, but do nothing that in any way would assist the regime in its purpose. The day after Obama’s election in 2008 the Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell, said that the only issue for the Republicans from that day forth would be to ensure that Obama be a one term president. This occurred, by the way, after the worst market crash since 1929 and the beginning of the worst economic contraction since the 30s.

    Did the Republicans pay a price for their intransigence? Did they pay a price for the racist teabagger movement created by Karl Rove, or the racist birther movement of Il Duce? Did they pay a price for shutting down the government, twice, and threatening the credit rating of the United States?

    No. They did not.

    Screw them. #standuptostupid

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 7,836
    unsung said:
    Her lawyer is the vice chair of a Soros funded group that is fighting the nomination.  
    Yeah she's so full of shit she brought this up to her therapist like 10 years ago (before anyone even knew who the fuck Kavanaugh was)...and the therapist took notes.
    Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    unsung said:
    Her lawyer is the vice chair of a Soros funded group that is fighting the nomination.  
    Yeah she's so full of shit she brought this up to her therapist like 10 years ago (before anyone even knew who the fuck Kavanaugh was)...and the therapist took notes.
    no kidding. jesus. 
  • Funny, the outrage missing in the Police Abuse thread.
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    Remember the Thomas Nine!! (10/02/2018)

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    that proves nothing! the deep state knew all along that trump would nominate kavanaugh and soros planted this as an insurance policy to keep him from being confirmed! 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,468
    And told her husband and therapist in 2012
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,155
    And told her husband and therapist in 2012
    Really?  Huh.  To be honest I've had several different reactions as I thought through this.

    Started with:  
    1) Happened in high school...long ago...just brought up now? Seriously this is shady
    now ending with...
    2) Man, even if this was long ago, it still seems like it happened (still gotta hear the "testimony") and is really bad.  Being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behavior.  If she had a more supportive society back then and had reported it and the law took it seriously, he would not be eligible for this job.  So he shouldn't be confirmed if true.

    This is why it so important to report and have a supportive society and a just law at the time of the incident though.  
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,468
    And told her husband and therapist in 2012
    Really?  Huh.  To be honest I've had several different reactions as I thought through this.

    Started with:  
    1) Happened in high school...long ago...just brought up now? Seriously this is shady
    now ending with...
    2) Man, even if this was long ago, it still seems like it happened (still gotta hear the "testimony") and is really bad.  Being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behavior.  If she had a more supportive society back then and had reported it and the law took it seriously, he would not be eligible for this job.  So he shouldn't be confirmed if true.

    This is why it so important to report and have a supportive society and a just law at the time of the incident though.  

    I absolutely agree with "being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behaviour". I keep hearing/reading people say "it was a long time ago and he was just a kid", which is shocking to me. So you get a free pass on sexual assault if you're a teenager?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    edited September 18
    And told her husband and therapist in 2012
    Really?  Huh.  To be honest I've had several different reactions as I thought through this.

    Started with:  
    1) Happened in high school...long ago...just brought up now? Seriously this is shady
    now ending with...
    2) Man, even if this was long ago, it still seems like it happened (still gotta hear the "testimony") and is really bad.  Being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behavior.  If she had a more supportive society back then and had reported it and the law took it seriously, he would not be eligible for this job.  So he shouldn't be confirmed if true.

    This is why it so important to report and have a supportive society and a just law at the time of the incident though.  
    your #1 is part of the inherent problem. people knee-jerk to "why didn't you report it when it happened?" as some sort of quasi-proof that means it is dishonest or a lie. you came around. many do not. 

    our current culture shames the women and puts them through the ringer who come forward at the time, and it also shames them AND then disbelieves them if they come forward later. they can't win. 

    she is coming forward now because of what is it at stake. can you imagine going through what she went through, and then being told that the guy who did this to you is being appointed to the highest court in the land and may have an incredibly damaging effect on millions of women and children?

    she is going through this all over again seeing his face all over the news. kudos to her for saying she'll testify before congress, IN PUBLIC NO LESS.

    I would hope I'd come forward too. 

    I can't wait for the asshole questions from R members of congress. bring up her past sexual/alcohol behaviour on the national stage. I FUCKING DARE YOU. 
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 12,136
    And told her husband and therapist in 2012
    Really?  Huh.  To be honest I've had several different reactions as I thought through this.

    Started with:  
    1) Happened in high school...long ago...just brought up now? Seriously this is shady
    now ending with...
    2) Man, even if this was long ago, it still seems like it happened (still gotta hear the "testimony") and is really bad.  Being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behavior.  If she had a more supportive society back then and had reported it and the law took it seriously, he would not be eligible for this job.  So he shouldn't be confirmed if true.

    This is why it so important to report and have a supportive society and a just law at the time of the incident though.  

    I absolutely agree with "being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behaviour". I keep hearing/reading people say "it was a long time ago and he was just a kid", which is shocking to me. So you get a free pass on sexual assault if you're a teenager?
    I sexually assaulted myself a lot as a teenager. It's taken decades, but I've come to terms with it and moved on.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    edited September 18
    And told her husband and therapist in 2012
    Really?  Huh.  To be honest I've had several different reactions as I thought through this.

    Started with:  
    1) Happened in high school...long ago...just brought up now? Seriously this is shady
    now ending with...
    2) Man, even if this was long ago, it still seems like it happened (still gotta hear the "testimony") and is really bad.  Being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behavior.  If she had a more supportive society back then and had reported it and the law took it seriously, he would not be eligible for this job.  So he shouldn't be confirmed if true.

    This is why it so important to report and have a supportive society and a just law at the time of the incident though.  

    I absolutely agree with "being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behaviour". I keep hearing/reading people say "it was a long time ago and he was just a kid", which is shocking to me. So you get a free pass on sexual assault if you're a teenager?
    offender is an R: he was just a dumb kid, leave him alone!
    offender is a D : (something nonsensical about Obama)! 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,468
    dankind said:
    And told her husband and therapist in 2012
    Really?  Huh.  To be honest I've had several different reactions as I thought through this.

    Started with:  
    1) Happened in high school...long ago...just brought up now? Seriously this is shady
    now ending with...
    2) Man, even if this was long ago, it still seems like it happened (still gotta hear the "testimony") and is really bad.  Being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behavior.  If she had a more supportive society back then and had reported it and the law took it seriously, he would not be eligible for this job.  So he shouldn't be confirmed if true.

    This is why it so important to report and have a supportive society and a just law at the time of the incident though.  

    I absolutely agree with "being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behaviour". I keep hearing/reading people say "it was a long time ago and he was just a kid", which is shocking to me. So you get a free pass on sexual assault if you're a teenager?
    I sexually assaulted myself a lot as a teenager. It's taken decades, but I've come to terms with it and moved on.
    You’ve moved somewhere, for sure, but it isn’t really ”on” :lol:
     
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  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 12,136
    dankind said:
    And told her husband and therapist in 2012
    Really?  Huh.  To be honest I've had several different reactions as I thought through this.

    Started with:  
    1) Happened in high school...long ago...just brought up now? Seriously this is shady
    now ending with...
    2) Man, even if this was long ago, it still seems like it happened (still gotta hear the "testimony") and is really bad.  Being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behavior.  If she had a more supportive society back then and had reported it and the law took it seriously, he would not be eligible for this job.  So he shouldn't be confirmed if true.

    This is why it so important to report and have a supportive society and a just law at the time of the incident though.  

    I absolutely agree with "being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behaviour". I keep hearing/reading people say "it was a long time ago and he was just a kid", which is shocking to me. So you get a free pass on sexual assault if you're a teenager?
    I sexually assaulted myself a lot as a teenager. It's taken decades, but I've come to terms with it and moved on.
    You’ve moved somewhere, for sure, but it isn’t really ”on” :lol:
     
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 7,836
    Now there is audio of Kavanaugh saying something to the effect of "whatever happened at (whatever the name of his rich boy prep school was) stays at prep school....and that's a good thing"
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,727
    And told her husband and therapist in 2012
    Really?  Huh.  To be honest I've had several different reactions as I thought through this.

    Started with:  
    1) Happened in high school...long ago...just brought up now? Seriously this is shady
    now ending with...
    2) Man, even if this was long ago, it still seems like it happened (still gotta hear the "testimony") and is really bad.  Being a drunk kid doesn't excuse this type of behavior.  If she had a more supportive society back then and had reported it and the law took it seriously, he would not be eligible for this job.  So he shouldn't be confirmed if true.

    This is why it so important to report and have a supportive society and a just law at the time of the incident though.  
    Plus now, if it happened, he's plain old lying about it during his confirmation hearings, which disqualifies him in any case.
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 2,351
    Now there is audio of Kavanaugh saying something to the effect of "whatever happened at (whatever the name of his rich boy prep school was) stays at prep school....and that's a good thing"
    Jesus.
    This entitlement attitude needs to change.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    edited September 18
    I was just thinking......what the fuck is going to happen in 20-30 years when that crop of SCJ are from the social media generation, and everything they did or said will be discoverable from online archiving? 

    these judges are held to a higher standard supposedly, but that higher standard really only exists from what we know, and in the digital age, we know a LOT. as if there's never been a justice on the court who has raped someone. of course there has. 

    with the combination of women standing up for themselves and everything being digitally documented, pretty sure the standards are going to be pretty low by then. 
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