Ok, what the hell are people counting as covers these days? Anything the band didn't write as Pearl Jam? I honestly don't think the band sees half of those songs as covers anymore. They play some of them pretty much every show now. They surpassed "cover" a long time ago. Also, are people really counting the brief Beatles cover of Help as the lead in to Help, Help? If so, we better start counting the outros of Betterman, YL and Daughter. Oh, also what about Setting Forth? Total Ed only song. What does that put us at for last night, 11?
Anyway, I agree, we need more from the forgotten albums, but I think the 9 covers claim is pushing it.
And this is 100% true. I would maybe count 5 of those as true covers (Throw Your Hatred Down, I Can Tell We're Gonna Be Friends, Again Today, I've Got a Feeling, and Comfortably Numb). And they did one of those with the original artist!
Help was 1 verse Patriot and RITFW have been in their live sets for 20 years. I guess I'm missing one?
Was it an amazing setlist?! Probably not. I do understand the gripe. I had a good time though. I never once thought to myself "man I wish they were playing something different" but that's just me.
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No offense to Brandi...but I don't like Again today very much at all.
I watched the you tube video and wondered why Eddie was singing so much of it. I would have thought she would have taken the lead.
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I wouldn't even count I've Got A Feeling. It was on the Japanese version of Ten and, while it doesn't get played a lot these days, it's been hitting the stadium show cycle & was a regular performance back in the early days.
I wouldn't even count I've Got A Feeling. It was on the Japanese version of Ten and, while it doesn't get played a lot these days, it's been hitting the stadium show cycle & was a regular performance back in the early days.
I think because Seattle didnt get a stadium show in 2016, night 1 was very much like the 2016 shows. Your welcome? lol
I just cringe and RITFW. Hatred isn't bad. Patriot doesn't do anything for me.
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I really enjoy Patriot from the 2003 bootlegs but the 2016 version was not very good and I would guess that's how they're doing it now.
By page 10 of this thread, the nine covers will be reduced to zero. I guess it was eight because "Help!" was an intro to Help Help. But eight is where the count stands.
Sorry, but RITFW, Crazy Mary, I've Got a Feeling, etc., are covers. They've written 10 albums plus countless b-sides, etc. So yeah, I count anything not originally theirs as a cover. I love Crazy Mary. I have only heard the original one time and would never know it if not for PJ. It's a cover.
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I just cringe and RITFW. Hatred isn't bad. Patriot doesn't do anything for me.
I think RITFW is played far too much. Having someone else's song be a show staple is odd (and if they're going to do that, do it with Baba O'Riley). If they announced that last night's rendition would be their last, it would be OK with me.
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Similar to Fenway 1 2016. About 7 covers if I recall, still a great show.
I originally thought this was an old thread from after Fenway 2016 that got bumped.
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I just cringe and RITFW. Hatred isn't bad. Patriot doesn't do anything for me.
I think RITFW is played far too much. Having someone else's song be a show staple is odd (and if they're going to do that, do it with Baba O'Riley). If they announced that last night's rendition would be their last, it would be OK with me.
I sort of agree.
It's like when our neighbors started feeding our cat, and it started going there instead of home and everyone thought it was theirs.
Haha.
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I just cringe and RITFW. Hatred isn't bad. Patriot doesn't do anything for me.
I think RITFW is played far too much. Having someone else's song be a show staple is odd (and if they're going to do that, do it with Baba O'Riley). If they announced that last night's rendition would be their last, it would be OK with me.
Agreed....Baba is ok, Fuckin Up is great. RITFW is just campy as hell. I really don't see how anyone in the band would get excited playing that song.
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I wouldn't even count I've Got A Feeling. It was on the Japanese version of Ten and, while it doesn't get played a lot these days, it's been hitting the stadium show cycle & was a regular performance back in the early days.
I think because Seattle didnt get a stadium show in 2016, night 1 was very much like the 2016 shows. Your welcome? lol
Not sure what I need to be welcomed for. And it's you're, btw.
I wasn't at the show last night. Just commenting on the discussion of wiggle room on what's considered a "cover." I've Got A Feeling, while being a cover of a Beatles song, is also synonymous enough with Pearl Jam that I wouldn't really count it. Just me personally.
I just cringe and RITFW. Hatred isn't bad. Patriot doesn't do anything for me.
I think RITFW is played far too much. Having someone else's song be a show staple is odd (and if they're going to do that, do it with Baba O'Riley). If they announced that last night's rendition would be their last, it would be OK with me.
Agreed....Baba is ok, Fuckin Up is great. RITFW is just campy as hell. I really don't see how anyone in the band would get excited playing that song.
Not campy. Neil Young still plays it like a god.
Pearl jams version lacks edge though. Its a tambourine, lights up celebration.. that just takes away from the song. Compared to Neil.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Was not there...cannot comment as to the flow of the set. My thought is that as long time fans (which most of us are) we'd all like to hear more PJ songs and less covers. However...they have been playing love for a heck of a long time and have earned the right to play whatever they'd like. And if you're going to hear 9 covers the ones played last night were at least, for the most part, on the less-played/rarer side. I've Got A Feeling?? I'd freaking LOVE to hear that live again...
I wouldn't even count I've Got A Feeling. It was on the Japanese version of Ten and, while it doesn't get played a lot these days, it's been hitting the stadium show cycle & was a regular performance back in the early days.
I think because Seattle didnt get a stadium show in 2016, night 1 was very much like the 2016 shows. Your welcome? lol
Not sure what I need to be welcomed for. And it's you're, btw.
I wasn't at the show last night. Just commenting on the discussion of wiggle room on what's considered a "cover." I've Got A Feeling, while being a cover of a Beatles song, is also synonymous enough with Pearl Jam that I wouldn't really count it. Just me personally.
Sorry didnt mean you specifically more the gist of the thread. I think this was a conscious effort to give Seattle a like the 2016 shows show.
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Sorry... RITFW, Baba, Crazy... they’re not ‘basically PJ songs now’, they’re covers & always will be. Change it up already, it’s only been 25+ years. Same goes for Sonic Reducer & Fuckin’ Up. There’s enough awesome music out there that you don’t need to cover the same songs for almost 3 decades.
let me break this down a little and show why its bullshit.... first of all I only count 8 "covers", if you wan to get technical.... but I don't see it quite that way, anyway
Throw Your Hatred Down - Although its technically a Neil song, this is not a cover as PJ was Neil's band for that album, I consider everything off of Mirrorball to be part of the Pearl Jam catalog. Some of you younger folks may not even realize PJ made an album with Uncle Neil, go pick it up, or stream it, or whatever you like to do, its a classic
Help - Single verse and chorus, not even the full song. Its the Beatles, and an amazing song, and lead into a true PJ live rarity with Help, Help... so chill out lol
Patriot - Sorry Little Steven, PJ owns this song now. Although technically it is, I don't consider this a cover (Much like Crazy Mary, which I don't consider a cover at this point. Do Grateful Dead fans consider Morning Dew a cover, I sure don't)
Friends - They covered The White Stripes, for the first time ever, enough said.
Again Today - A newer cover that they have mixed in and even have a studio version
Comfortably Numb - They have done this quite a bit the past few years, and Mother a few years before that, so i understand if people are a little Pink Floyd'ed out, but I happen to think Comfortably Numb is one of the best covers they have ever done and its right in the wheelhouse of Eddie vocally and Mike with the solo, so I say keep it in in the rotation forever
I've Got A Feeling - again, its the Beatles, and they did a studio version found on some versions of Ten. This has been in the catalog forever and when they play it, it doesn't really feel like a cover to me because of these things
RITFW - I'm not sure you can ever make an Uncle Neil song your own, so i will say they are partial owners of this song and it has been a staple FOREVER, when they play it, it doesn't feel like a cover to me at all
so yeah, this "too many covers" thing is overhyped BS in my opinion, keep them coming!!!
let me break this down a little and show why its bullshit.... first of all I only count 8 "covers", if you wan to get technical.... but I don't see it quite that way, anyway
Throw Your Hatred Down - Although its technically a Neil song, this is not a cover as PJ was Neil's band for that album, I consider everything off of Mirrorball to be part of the Pearl Jam catalog. Some of you younger folks may not even realize PJ made an album with Uncle Neil, go pick it up, or stream it, or whatever you like to do, its a classic
Help - Single verse and chorus, not even the full song. Its the Beatles, and an amazing song, and lead into a true PJ live rarity with Help, Help... so chill out lol
Patriot - Sorry Little Steven, PJ owns this song now. Although technically it is, I don't consider this a cover (Much like Crazy Mary, which I don't consider a cover at this point. Do Grateful Dead fans consider Morning Dew a cover, I sure don't)
Friends - They covered The White Stripes, for the first time ever, enough said.
Again Today - A newer cover that they have mixed in and even have a studio version
Comfortably Numb - They have done this quite a bit the past few years, and Mother a few years before that, so i understand if people are a little Pink Floyd'ed out, but I happen to think Comfortably Numb is one of the best covers they have ever done and its right in the wheelhouse of Eddie vocally and Mike with the solo, so I say keep it in in the rotation forever
I've Got A Feeling - again, its the Beatles, and they did a studio version found on some versions of Ten. This has been in the catalog forever and when they play it, it doesn't really feel like a cover to me because of these things
RITFW - I'm not sure you can ever make an Uncle Neil song your own, so i will say they are partial owners of this song and it has been a staple FOREVER, when they play it, it doesn't feel like a cover to me at all
so yeah, this "too many covers" thing is overhyped BS in my opinion, keep them coming!!!
I'm torn on Comfortably Numb. I loved hearing it at Fenway in 2016, and
it's a great version, but hearing it, and then hearing Gilmour do it
later that year, and it's clear there's just something missing in PJ's
version. I cannot put my finger on it, but Gilmour's version is just
that much better. It could just be Glimour's intimate knowledge of it, I
don't know. I would almost rather they not play it, though.
Of course, if they do play it at Fenway this year, I'm not going to get all upset and not sing along/rock out.
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They've been a band for approaching thirty years. You ever think they are sick of playing some of these songs? I don't give a damn what they play and I would LOVE to hear Again Today at Fenway.
I can't imagine that they are sick of playing anything off Binaural, Riot Act, S/T
I would love to hear more of those songs
this is the only thing I would change with the band the past 5 years, they are over relying on the "hits" and songs written in 1998 or earlier (that was 20 years ago folks) and have seemed to move away from playing their catalog from 2000-present.... I think that is a mistake and eventually leads to being a full on nostalgia act, which I never want to see happen.
I count 5 songs plus Wasted Reprise played last night written after 1998.... only 5 songs to represent the last 20 years of the PJ catalog... and to me, as a diehard that knows the full catalog, that sucks
Mind Your Manners, Lightning Bolt, Help Help, Setting Forth, NAIS, Wasted Reprise
This is such whiny bullcrap. 33 minus 9 equals 24. 24 songs is still as long (if not longer) than most bands entire set. On the Yield tour in 1998 the average set was in the low-to-mid 20's for number songs total.
I have to agree it's a bit much. That post about how there were only 3 songs from Riot Act, Binaural, Backspacer, Avocado and No Code COMBINED kind of struck me. I like covers if they're good ones, but I don't understand why they would ignore that huge a chunk of their catalogue and do 9 covers instead (and not all great covers at that). I am not feeling really critical about it - it's just a bit strange to me..... I still would have enjoyed the show!
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They've been a band for approaching thirty years. You ever think they are sick of playing some of these songs? I don't give a damn what they play and I would LOVE to hear Again Today at Fenway.
I can't imagine that they are sick of playing anything off Binaural, Riot Act, S/T
I would love to hear more of those songs
this is the only thing I would change with the band the past 5 years, they are over relying on the "hits" and songs written in 1998 or earlier (that was 20 years ago folks) and have seemed to move away from playing their catalog from 2000-present.... I think that is a mistake and eventually leads to being a full on nostalgia act, which I never want to see happen.
I count 5 songs plus Wasted Reprise played last night written after 1998.... only 5 songs to represent the last 20 years of the PJ catalog... and to me, as a diehard that knows the full catalog, that sucks
Mind Your Manners, Lightning Bolt, Help Help, Setting Forth, NAIS, Wasted Reprise
This is as big a complaint for me as the amount of covers, if not bigger. The setlist formula, despite the variations from night to night has gotten stale. End the 1st encore w/ Porch, the 2nd w/ RVM, the show closer is usually pretty predictable, as are the show openers. Setlists are heavy on Ten & VS, with the usual tracks from Vitalogy & Yield thrown in there. Where the hell is the No Code love, never mind the aforementioned Riot Act / ST / Binaural songs? For as much as they do change out a lot of tracks from show to show, it's still very formulaic and predictable. They're kind of already at the nostalgia act level if you ask me.
With the exception of Quebec in '16, I'm hard pressed to think of many other outlier setlists from the last 5 years. (I'm sure I'm wrong & there are some more, but they are few & far between)
I like seeing the White Stripes cover in there, but the ones they've been playing for 20+ years could be put out to pasture. I'm sorry, RITFW is usually my cue to beat the crowd, it always feels very uninspired to me.
There aren't many live acts that can hold a candle to PJ, I'll be the first to say that. Still though, the formula is a bit stale in the last few years.
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Patriot and RITFW have been in their live sets for 20 years. I guess I'm missing one?
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By page 10 of this thread, the nine covers will be reduced to zero. I guess it was eight because "Help!" was an intro to Help Help. But eight is where the count stands.
Sorry, but RITFW, Crazy Mary, I've Got a Feeling, etc., are covers. They've written 10 albums plus countless b-sides, etc. So yeah, I count anything not originally theirs as a cover. I love Crazy Mary. I have only heard the original one time and would never know it if not for PJ. It's a cover.
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It's like when our neighbors started feeding our cat, and it started going there instead of home and everyone thought it was theirs.
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Pearl jams version lacks edge though. Its a tambourine, lights up celebration.. that just takes away from the song. Compared to Neil.
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I hope and expect the rest to differ greatly.
I think the covers last night were pretty good choices. some rare ones in there.
only ones that they could've switched up were RITFW and Comfortably Numb.
the White Stripes song and I've Got a Feeling were nice surprises.
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let me break this down a little and show why its bullshit.... first of all I only count 8 "covers", if you wan to get technical.... but I don't see it quite that way, anyway
Throw Your Hatred Down - Although its technically a Neil song, this is not a cover as PJ was Neil's band for that album, I consider everything off of Mirrorball to be part of the Pearl Jam catalog. Some of you younger folks may not even realize PJ made an album with Uncle Neil, go pick it up, or stream it, or whatever you like to do, its a classic
Help - Single verse and chorus, not even the full song. Its the Beatles, and an amazing song, and lead into a true PJ live rarity with Help, Help... so chill out lol
Patriot - Sorry Little Steven, PJ owns this song now. Although technically it is, I don't consider this a cover (Much like Crazy Mary, which I don't consider a cover at this point. Do Grateful Dead fans consider Morning Dew a cover, I sure don't)
Friends - They covered The White Stripes, for the first time ever, enough said.
Again Today - A newer cover that they have mixed in and even have a studio version
Comfortably Numb - They have done this quite a bit the past few years, and Mother a few years before that, so i understand if people are a little Pink Floyd'ed out, but I happen to think Comfortably Numb is one of the best covers they have ever done and its right in the wheelhouse of Eddie vocally and Mike with the solo, so I say keep it in in the rotation forever
I've Got A Feeling - again, its the Beatles, and they did a studio version found on some versions of Ten. This has been in the catalog forever and when they play it, it doesn't really feel like a cover to me because of these things
RITFW - I'm not sure you can ever make an Uncle Neil song your own, so i will say they are partial owners of this song and it has been a staple FOREVER, when they play it, it doesn't feel like a cover to me at all
so yeah, this "too many covers" thing is overhyped BS in my opinion, keep them coming!!!
Just kidding. I agree with every word you said
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this is the only thing I would change with the band the past 5 years, they are over relying on the "hits" and songs written in 1998 or earlier (that was 20 years ago folks) and have seemed to move away from playing their catalog from 2000-present.... I think that is a mistake and eventually leads to being a full on nostalgia act, which I never want to see happen.
I count 5 songs plus Wasted Reprise played last night written after 1998.... only 5 songs to represent the last 20 years of the PJ catalog... and to me, as a diehard that knows the full catalog, that sucks
Mind Your Manners, Lightning Bolt, Help Help, Setting Forth, NAIS, Wasted Reprise
This is as big a complaint for me as the amount of covers, if not bigger. The setlist formula, despite the variations from night to night has gotten stale. End the 1st encore w/ Porch, the 2nd w/ RVM, the show closer is usually pretty predictable, as are the show openers. Setlists are heavy on Ten & VS, with the usual tracks from Vitalogy & Yield thrown in there. Where the hell is the No Code love, never mind the aforementioned Riot Act / ST / Binaural songs? For as much as they do change out a lot of tracks from show to show, it's still very formulaic and predictable. They're kind of already at the nostalgia act level if you ask me.
With the exception of Quebec in '16, I'm hard pressed to think of many other outlier setlists from the last 5 years. (I'm sure I'm wrong & there are some more, but they are few & far between)
I like seeing the White Stripes cover in there, but the ones they've been playing for 20+ years could be put out to pasture. I'm sorry, RITFW is usually my cue to beat the crowd, it always feels very uninspired to me.
There aren't many live acts that can hold a candle to PJ, I'll be the first to say that. Still though, the formula is a bit stale in the last few years.