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Seattle may be losing The Showbox

EddieredderEddieredder Posts: 688
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Sad if true. This is the best music venue in Seattle IMO
http://www.guerrillacandy.com/2018/07/25/developer-plans-to-replace-the-showbox-with-44-story-tower/
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    More reason to open Missoula with Even Flow!
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    Should be a designated historial site.   The city missed the boat on that one.   Look at NOLA. The old music venues are mostly safe
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    I'm not surprised the developers are from Vancouver. Vancouver developers generally lack souls.
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    EddieredderEddieredder Posts: 688
    From the Stranger:
    https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/07/25/29721442/yesterday-the-showbox-turned-79-today-its-demolition-was-announced
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Really pissed off about this. The Showbox is an institution. I've seen hundreds of shows there, and it is my favorite venue downtown. Saw both PJ Riot Act tour warmup shows there. Crazy energy, and amazing history. Would be a big loss for Seattle. I hope there's some way to get it designated as an historical site, and give the finger to the developers and to the city for allowing it's demolition. But I guess we have to make room for more Tech Bros in their high-rise, expensive apartments and condos. 
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    lotsalemonlotsalemon Boston Posts: 2,734

    Glad I at least got to step foot in that building. 

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    H.ChinaskiH.Chinaski Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,596
    Super bummed about this. Lived in Seattle for about 12 years and seen hundreds of shows there. Seeing Pearl Jam there is certainly a highlight. I remember seeing Sonic Youth there and bumping into Ed in the crowd. I was having a cigarette at the time when you could still smoke indoors and Ed bumming a smoke off of me. Lol. I do miss the NW but the city of Seattle really needs to check itself... allowing developers to change the entire face of the city. What's next Pike Place Market?
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    EddieredderEddieredder Posts: 688
    edited July 2018
    Sign these petitions!

    https://www.change.org/p/city-of-seattle-landmarks-preservation-board-make-the-showbox-at-the-market-a-historical-landmark?recruiter=2788076&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial...rdHZAbL2TQyyB23KwLDCiQ.4

    https://www.thepetitionsite.com/541/732/434/save-the-showbox-dont-tear-down-a-historical-legend/?taf_id=58003851&cid=fb_na
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Thanks for the links. I signed them both.
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,531
    cp3iverson said:
    Should be a designated historial site.   The city missed the boat on that one.   Look at NOLA. The old music venues are mostly safe
    Yeah.  Tech companies and tech yuppies tend to ruin things.    San Fran is a shell of its former self.  NYC is turning into a shell of its former self.  The world is getting boring. 
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    It just makes no sense to me that a city as “aware” of its identity like Seattle won’t recognize sites like this.  Music is a major part of it’s history, no different than NOLA or Memphis.  Why they’re not holding onto that puzzles me as an outsider. 
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    bosshogg18bosshogg18 Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,082
    This is complete bullshit. The Showbox needs to be saved. Wish PJ would just buy the damn thing. Change the homeshows to raise money to save the Showbox, or at least some of the money. Would rather see my money go towards saving a Seattle treasure.
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    pearlgirl52pearlgirl52 At a Pearl Jam show, hopefully. Posts: 653
    Nooooooooo!!!
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    bosshogg18bosshogg18 Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,082
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    SR91748SR91748 Posts: 138
    Yeah, no, this is bad. Get up, stand up.
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    H.ChinaskiH.Chinaski Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,596
    Petition signed. 
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,185
    signed both!!

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    CsAc99CsAc99 Washington Posts: 35
    Signed them both!

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    edited July 2018

    bosshogg18 said:
    This is complete bullshit. The Showbox needs to be saved. Wish PJ would just buy the damn thing. Change the homeshows to raise money to save the Showbox, or at least some of the money. Would rather see my money go towards saving a Seattle treasure.
    That property probably costs $80 million or something crazy like that, lol. I don't think PJ can really afford it, and I don't think a fundraiser would cut it either! I do hope the city somehow saves it though.... perhaps the developers could be forced to build so that the original Showbox is incorporated into the design... Though I doubt the rich buyers of the condo development will be very into living above a music venue. 
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    PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,585
    44 story building? Damn!!
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    EddieredderEddieredder Posts: 688
    PJ_Soul said:

    bosshogg18 said:
    This is complete bullshit. The Showbox needs to be saved. Wish PJ would just buy the damn thing. Change the homeshows to raise money to save the Showbox, or at least some of the money. Would rather see my money go towards saving a Seattle treasure.
    That property probably costs something like $80 million or something crazy like that, lol. I don't think PJ can really afford it, and I don't think a fundraiser would cut it either! I do hope the city somehow saves it though.... perhaps the developers could be forced to build so that the original Showbox is incorporated into the design... Though I doubt the rich buyers of the condo development will be very into living above a music venue. 
    Thats the rub. Even if it is considered a historic landmark, unfortunately I don't think that saves it. I think its fairly easy to get around that with construction. Can't they just keep part of a wall intact and build everything around it? The Key Arena roof has designation for example. They plan to build a completely new building with very little of the original building remaining. 
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    EddieredderEddieredder Posts: 688
    I won tickets on 107.7 the End to the Night 1 PJ Showbox show. Can't believe I didn't get fired from my job. Every hour on the hour. Redial redial redial redial......  
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    Eddieredder said:
    PJ_Soul said:

    bosshogg18 said:
    This is complete bullshit. The Showbox needs to be saved. Wish PJ would just buy the damn thing. Change the homeshows to raise money to save the Showbox, or at least some of the money. Would rather see my money go towards saving a Seattle treasure.
    That property probably costs something like $80 million or something crazy like that, lol. I don't think PJ can really afford it, and I don't think a fundraiser would cut it either! I do hope the city somehow saves it though.... perhaps the developers could be forced to build so that the original Showbox is incorporated into the design... Though I doubt the rich buyers of the condo development will be very into living above a music venue. 
    Thats the rub. Even if it is considered a historic landmark, unfortunately I don't think that saves it. I think its fairly easy to get around that with construction. Can't they just keep part of a wall intact and build everything around it? The Key Arena roof has designation for example. They plan to build a completely new building with very little of the original building remaining. 
    Sure, that too. The very sad reality is that with prime real estate like this - and it is PRIME prime real estate - when hundreds of millions of dollars are involved, nothing else matters very much as far as the people governing everything goes,and that includes the rich, not only politicians. But you better believe Seattle's politicians are benefiting from such real estate development too. Real estate development is one of the shadiest things going.
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    facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    I feel your pain people, it's like when they knocked the Astoria theatre down in London to make way for the Crossrail project, it was absolutely gutting.
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    SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,165
    From Duff (I think he’s mistaken about Matt starting the change.org petition but regardless...)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BltEBi0lUHj/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=occ2v0l7zwk

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Blto5MuHOto/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=181cewlcwy2u4



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    jazzbo26jazzbo26 Framingham, MA Posts: 674
    BUMP for petition signings!
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