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unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
edited June 2018 in A Moving Train
Since this applies to a larger than US population it is a separate thread and here is the exact reason why US firearm owners are not willing to give them up.

And before someone tells me that the UN will never walk on US soil read #2.  That is why we left that council, we give them money and they do evil.

Of course, I get it, some of you won't.  It isn't anything more than why it won't happen here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44575599





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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,680
    edited June 2018
    A separate gun thread is just another gun thread.  How many gun threads do we need?  This place is riddle through with gun threads like the walls of the Alamo. 

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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The other thread is titled America's Gun Violence.

    I explained why in the first sentence.

    I guess you have nothing else to say, can't say I am surprised, just didn't expect it to be you.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    Oh my god this is dumb.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,680
    unsung said:
    The other thread is titled America's Gun Violence.

    I explained why in the first sentence.

    I guess you have nothing else to say, can't say I am surprised, just didn't expect it to be you.
    Others.  There have been a bunch of them.  Oh well, carry on.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    brianlux said:
    A separate gun thread is just another gun thread.  How many gun threads do we need?  This place is riddle through with gun threads like the walls of the Alamo. 

    AMGT:  A Moving Gun Train.
    I think his point is valid for a new thread.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    unsung said:
    Since this applies to a larger than US population it is a separate thread and here is the exact reason why US firearm owners are not willing to give them up.

    And before someone tells me that the UN will never walk on US soil read #2.  That is why we left that council, we give them money and they do evil.

    Of course, I get it, some of you won't.  It isn't anything more than why it won't happen here.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44575599





    Wow that is crazy.  Now only cops and criminals will be able to get firearms.  Nuts
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    Since this applies to a larger than US population it is a separate thread and here is the exact reason why US firearm owners are not willing to give them up.

    And before someone tells me that the UN will never walk on US soil read #2.  That is why we left that council, we give them money and they do evil.

    Of course, I get it, some of you won't.  It isn't anything more than why it won't happen here.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44575599





    Wow that is crazy.  Now only cops and criminals will be able to get firearms.  Nuts
    It is the Wild wild west down there.
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    Since this applies to a larger than US population it is a separate thread and here is the exact reason why US firearm owners are not willing to give them up.

    And before someone tells me that the UN will never walk on US soil read #2.  That is why we left that council, we give them money and they do evil.

    Of course, I get it, some of you won't.  It isn't anything more than why it won't happen here.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44575599





    Wow that is crazy.  Now only cops and criminals will be able to get firearms.  Nuts
    Those are pretty much the only people who need them for their respective professions. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    Since this applies to a larger than US population it is a separate thread and here is the exact reason why US firearm owners are not willing to give them up.

    And before someone tells me that the UN will never walk on US soil read #2.  That is why we left that council, we give them money and they do evil.

    Of course, I get it, some of you won't.  It isn't anything more than why it won't happen here.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44575599





    Wow that is crazy.  Now only cops and criminals will be able to get firearms.  Nuts
    #goals
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,538
    Still afraid of president Barack Obama and his U.N. troops.

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,688
    so we're afraid that whats happening in a socialist country will happen here? the land with MORE INDIVIDUAL GUNS THAN INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE TO OWN THEM?

    gtfoh.

    what will happen down there is revolution. because its an oil rich country that us business is involved with, our military will be sent to "help".
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    mcgruff10 said:
    unsung said:
    Since this applies to a larger than US population it is a separate thread and here is the exact reason why US firearm owners are not willing to give them up.

    And before someone tells me that the UN will never walk on US soil read #2.  That is why we left that council, we give them money and they do evil.

    Of course, I get it, some of you won't.  It isn't anything more than why it won't happen here.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-18288430

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44575599





    Wow that is crazy.  Now only cops and criminals will be able to get firearms.  Nuts
    Sounds much like Sweden. Nuts.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    It is illegal to own a firearm in Sweden ?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    mcgruff10 said:
    It is illegal to own a firearm in Sweden ?
    No. That's why I added "much". Maybe should have made it clearer. So, cops, criminals and a small percentage (hunters, collectors, sportsmen) of the population have firearms then.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Sweden is under attack daily from "refugees".
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    unsung said:
    Sweden is under attack daily from "refugees".



    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    unsung said:
    Sweden is under attack daily from "refugees".
    Do you think that the US - which according to your president Trump caused the crisis in Syria should have taken care of the refugees - fleeing from something YOU CREATED - instead of countries like Sweden and Germany?

    Wouldn't that be the right way to go about it? I mean if it was Obama and Hillary and Bush and whatever who caused it?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I didn't create it.  I am against undeclared unconstitutional war.  As one of my stalkers you should know that, Halifax does.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Bentleyspop said:
    Love it!!!
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Sweden is under attack? 

    If so, should Swedish gun owners take nbn sitters I to their own hands? Is that what you are inferring?
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    unsung said:
    I didn't create it.  I am against undeclared unconstitutional war.  As one of my stalkers you should know that, Halifax does.
    Do you think the US should have taken more responsibility taken in refugees from that crisis?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Nope.  The US shouldn't have created the crisis.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    edited June 2018
    unsung said:
    Nope.  The US shouldn't have created the crisis.
    Do you think the US should have taken more responsibility taken in refugees AFTER CREATING THE CRISIS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BUT DID?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I guess you don't understand.  I'll start over.  The Obama administration should not have created the crisis in Syria.  Or Yemen.  Or Somalia.  Or Libya.

    The Bush administration should not have created the crisis in Iraq.

    No crisis, no reason to worry about the rest.  Now we can play hypothetical and I can answer your question.  No, I shouldn't have to pay for them.  I am against all forms of taxpayer funded welfare that is distributed by government.

    If a private organization that raised funds from private donors wants to help then let them.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    edited June 2018
    unsung said:
    I guess you don't understand.  I'll start over.  The Obama administration should not have created the crisis in Syria.  Or Yemen.  Or Somalia.  Or Libya.

    The Bush administration should not have created the crisis in Iraq.

    No crisis, no reason to worry about the rest.  Now we can play hypothetical and I can answer your question.  No, I shouldn't have to pay for them.  I am against all forms of taxpayer funded welfare that is distributed by government.

    If a private organization that raised funds from private donors wants to help then let them.
    You didn't seem to believe that when it applied to the Bundy family. Why is that?
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    edited June 2018
    unsung said:
    I guess you don't understand.  I'll start over.  The Obama administration should not have created the crisis in Syria.  Or Yemen.  Or Somalia.  Or Libya.

    The Bush administration should not have created the crisis in Iraq.

    No crisis, no reason to worry about the rest.  Now we can play hypothetical and I can answer your question.  No, I shouldn't have to pay for them.  I am against all forms of taxpayer funded welfare that is distributed by government.

    If a private organization that raised funds from private donors wants to help then let them.
    But you did create it (according to your President, and yourself) - and you do not think that one should deal with the consequences of the mess one is making. 

    I think that says everything about you. You might not be bad in @mcgruff10 book. But you seem lack any morale, empathy and the feeling of doing the right thing.

    Hey, just like your president! How swell. 

    But keep up with your strawman-arguments about refugees in Sweden.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    I guess you don't understand.  I'll start over.  The Obama administration should not have created the crisis in Syria.  Or Yemen.  Or Somalia.  Or Libya.

    The Bush administration should not have created the crisis in Iraq.

    No crisis, no reason to worry about the rest.  Now we can play hypothetical and I can answer your question.  No, I shouldn't have to pay for them.  I am against all forms of taxpayer funded welfare that is distributed by government.

    If a private organization that raised funds from private donors wants to help then let them.
    You didn't seem to believe that when it applied to the Bundy family. Why is that?
    You lost me.  What?
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    unsung said:
    I guess you don't understand.  I'll start over.  The Obama administration should not have created the crisis in Syria.  Or Yemen.  Or Somalia.  Or Libya.

    The Bush administration should not have created the crisis in Iraq.

    No crisis, no reason to worry about the rest.  Now we can play hypothetical and I can answer your question.  No, I shouldn't have to pay for them.  I am against all forms of taxpayer funded welfare that is distributed by government.

    If a private organization that raised funds from private donors wants to help then let them.
    But you did create it (according to your President, and yourself) - and you do not think that one should deal with the consequences of the mess one is making. 

    I think that says everything about you. You might not be bad in @mcgruff10 book. But you seem lack any morale, empathy and the feeling of doing the right thing.

    Hey, just like your president! How swell. 

    But keep up with your strawman-arguments about refugees in Sweden.
    I am not empathetic to people who move to a country and destroy it.  
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    unsung said:
    I guess you don't understand.  I'll start over.  The Obama administration should not have created the crisis in Syria.  Or Yemen.  Or Somalia.  Or Libya.

    The Bush administration should not have created the crisis in Iraq.

    No crisis, no reason to worry about the rest.  Now we can play hypothetical and I can answer your question.  No, I shouldn't have to pay for them.  I am against all forms of taxpayer funded welfare that is distributed by government.

    If a private organization that raised funds from private donors wants to help then let them.
    Are the Bundy's not getting taxpayer funded welfare distributed by the government?
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