Of the frequent commenters here, What is your education level?

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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 3,347
    Graduated with an undergrad

    Personally, I think I’ve become more progressive/less conservative since having a kid. Issues such as social inequality, homelessness, declining standard of living for successive generations and the opiate crisis mean more, now that I see how the unfolding world affects my own child. 
    Maybe it was true in the 70s 80s and 90s when the US conservatives were actually conservative you could become switch as you got older.

    But now conservatives are controlled by religion, bigotry, not protecting the environment, crippling education and healthcare, controlled by the rich and corporations and the NRA. The list is too long.

    So much of the conservative agenda is fucked I see more people becoming progressive as they get older rather than vice versa.
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 11,626
    Only high school for me ..
    Same here..
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    Some college
    PJ_Soul said:
    I still can't get over how "idealist" is being used like some kind of insult or flaw or state of irrationality, lol. Holy crap, I sure wouldn't want to see a world without them - I can't even imagine what kind of hell that would be.
    I didn't use it as an insult. I tend to think of myself as pretty idealistic actually, and have been "accused" of this a few times here over the years. I just think that the more you learn about reality, the less idealistic you become. just my opinion based on my interpretation of the term. 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,979
    PJ_Soul said:
    I still can't get over how "idealist" is being used like some kind of insult or flaw or state of irrationality, lol. Holy crap, I sure wouldn't want to see a world without them - I can't even imagine what kind of hell that would be.
    I didn't use it as an insult. I tend to think of myself as pretty idealistic actually, and have been "accused" of this a few times here over the years. I just think that the more you learn about reality, the less idealistic you become. just my opinion based on my interpretation of the term. 
    For me, it’s been the more I learn, the more I’ve been able to see how my idealism fits into reality. Instead of just imagining it, you see how it can happen pragmatically.  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    Some college
    PJ_Soul said:
    I still can't get over how "idealist" is being used like some kind of insult or flaw or state of irrationality, lol. Holy crap, I sure wouldn't want to see a world without them - I can't even imagine what kind of hell that would be.
    I didn't use it as an insult. I tend to think of myself as pretty idealistic actually, and have been "accused" of this a few times here over the years. I just think that the more you learn about reality, the less idealistic you become. just my opinion based on my interpretation of the term. 
    For me, it’s been the more I learn, the more I’ve been able to see how my idealism fits into reality. Instead of just imagining it, you see how it can happen pragmatically.  
    Yes, this too. 
  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 2,073
    Some college
    I dont know if I classify as a frequent commenter or not (at least on amt), only really read through these threads mostly. And not often. 

    But polls are fun... one year of school left before I graduate. It can’t come fast enough. 
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USAPosts: 2,789
    Post grad
    i went to the best colleges for college. i'm like a really smart person.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,729
    Post grad
    I dont know if I classify as a frequent commenter or not (at least on amt), only really read through these threads mostly. And not often. 

    But polls are fun... one year of school left before I graduate. It can’t come fast enough. 
    Congratulations on getting closer to graduation! 

    And cool that you are commenting here.  We need some fresh voices here (as opposed to stale ones like mine, haha!)
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,951
    brianlux said:
    I dont know if I classify as a frequent commenter or not (at least on amt), only really read through these threads mostly. And not often. 

    But polls are fun... one year of school left before I graduate. It can’t come fast enough. 
    Congratulations on getting closer to graduation! 

    And cool that you are commenting here.  We need some fresh voices here (as opposed to stale ones like mine, haha!)
    Hey?! What have you against stale? It makes for good bread crumbs or croutons, dammit!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,729
    Post grad
    brianlux said:
    I dont know if I classify as a frequent commenter or not (at least on amt), only really read through these threads mostly. And not often. 

    But polls are fun... one year of school left before I graduate. It can’t come fast enough. 
    Congratulations on getting closer to graduation! 

    And cool that you are commenting here.  We need some fresh voices here (as opposed to stale ones like mine, haha!)
    Hey?! What have you against stale? It makes for good bread crumbs or croutons, dammit!
    Only this, H2M, if your going to go stale, take it to the limit and become moldy.  Become a Penicillin Man or Woman!
    "Love and only love will break it down"
    -Neil Young
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,951
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I dont know if I classify as a frequent commenter or not (at least on amt), only really read through these threads mostly. And not often. 

    But polls are fun... one year of school left before I graduate. It can’t come fast enough. 
    Congratulations on getting closer to graduation! 

    And cool that you are commenting here.  We need some fresh voices here (as opposed to stale ones like mine, haha!)
    Hey?! What have you against stale? It makes for good bread crumbs or croutons, dammit!
    Only this, H2M, if your going to go stale, take it to the limit and become moldy.  Become a Penicillin Man or Woman!
    Who says I’m not?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,729
    Post grad
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    I dont know if I classify as a frequent commenter or not (at least on amt), only really read through these threads mostly. And not often. 

    But polls are fun... one year of school left before I graduate. It can’t come fast enough. 
    Congratulations on getting closer to graduation! 

    And cool that you are commenting here.  We need some fresh voices here (as opposed to stale ones like mine, haha!)
    Hey?! What have you against stale? It makes for good bread crumbs or croutons, dammit!
    Only this, H2M, if your going to go stale, take it to the limit and become moldy.  Become a Penicillin Man or Woman!
    Who says I’m not?
    Wear that moldy cape proudly, my friend!
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 2,073
    Some college
    brianlux said:
    I dont know if I classify as a frequent commenter or not (at least on amt), only really read through these threads mostly. And not often. 

    But polls are fun... one year of school left before I graduate. It can’t come fast enough. 
    Congratulations on getting closer to graduation! 

    And cool that you are commenting here.  We need some fresh voices here (as opposed to stale ones like mine, haha!)
    Thanks! 

    I do read through these threads when I have the time. But I just can’t keep up with some threads lol. I dont check amt for two days and the Donald Trump thread has 300 new posts! When I get more free time I hope to become a more active participant in these discussions. 
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    Greenville 2016
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    Columbia 2016
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,729
    Post grad
    brianlux said:
    I dont know if I classify as a frequent commenter or not (at least on amt), only really read through these threads mostly. And not often. 

    But polls are fun... one year of school left before I graduate. It can’t come fast enough. 
    Congratulations on getting closer to graduation! 

    And cool that you are commenting here.  We need some fresh voices here (as opposed to stale ones like mine, haha!)
    Thanks! 

    I do read through these threads when I have the time. But I just can’t keep up with some threads lol. I dont check amt for two days and the Donald Trump thread has 300 new posts! When I get more free time I hope to become a more active participant in these discussions. 
    Wonderful.  Looking forward to it, drake!
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 4,867
    edited May 19
    brianlux said:
    I dont know if I classify as a frequent commenter or not (at least on amt), only really read through these threads mostly. And not often. 

    But polls are fun... one year of school left before I graduate. It can’t come fast enough. 
    Congratulations on getting closer to graduation! 

    And cool that you are commenting here.  We need some fresh voices here (as opposed to stale ones like mine, haha!)
    Thanks! 

    I do read through these threads when I have the time. But I just can’t keep up with some threads lol. I dont check amt for two days and the Donald Trump thread has 300 new posts! When I get more free time I hope to become a more active participant in these discussions. 
    Once you become an adult like the rest of us and get a job there will be plenty of time to comment when you're at work....;)

    Sarcasm if it's not clear (except for the comment about when you're at work, that's legit).
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,198
    PJ_Soul said:
    I still can't get over how "idealist" is being used like some kind of insult or flaw or state of irrationality, lol. Holy crap, I sure wouldn't want to see a world without them - I can't even imagine what kind of hell that would be.
    I love me some PJ Soul
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,198
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I still can't get over how "idealist" is being used like some kind of insult or flaw or state of irrationality, lol. Holy crap, I sure wouldn't want to see a world without them - I can't even imagine what kind of hell that would be.
    I've heard that more time than I can remember.  "Oh Brian, your so idealistic."  "Get a grip, you really think things could get better?"  "You want everything to be perfect."  "You're so unreal".

    Yes, yes, yes and hell yes!
    And I love me some Brianlux!
  • mattsl1983mattsl1983 Posts: 607
    Graduated with an undergrad
    hedonist said:
    mickeyrat said:
    why does it matter?
    Amen.

    One semester of college and I'm doing just fine in life.

    Fuck knows that lacking a degree doesn't make me feel dumb or uneducated.  Life'll learn ya!

    (gambo - :peace: )
    Its a simple observational question.  And it’s been proven that for the majority, those that have earned a college degree, or have been gone to college are more apt to taking on a wider view and balance ideas they agree with and disagree with and can make more informed opinions.  They aren’t the “Fox News” of the right or the anything liberal the can find to read in the “left”.  They are more centered and balanced with their ideas of the world.  It’s just a developmental fact of humans.

    but I will say this, before you attack someone on their “faux news” here, have a common ground and try to understand where each and every one of us is coming from.  You idea is what you think is best for you, and so as the same for another persons.  We all don’t walk in the same shoes..
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,244
    High school graduate
    hedonist said:
    mickeyrat said:
    why does it matter?
    Amen.

    One semester of college and I'm doing just fine in life.

    Fuck knows that lacking a degree doesn't make me feel dumb or uneducated.  Life'll learn ya!

    (gambo - :peace: )
    Its a simple observational question.  And it’s been proven that for the majority, those that have earned a college degree, or have been gone to college are more apt to taking on a wider view and balance ideas they agree with and disagree with and can make more informed opinions.  They aren’t the “Fox News” of the right or the anything liberal the can find to read in the “left”.  They are more centered and balanced with their ideas of the world.  It’s just a developmental fact of humans.

    but I will say this, before you attack someone on their “faux news” here, have a common ground and try to understand where each and every one of us is coming from.  You idea is what you think is best for you, and so as the same for another persons.  We all don’t walk in the same shoes..
    Being well read and traveled is worth more than any college education could teach you.

    That's just my opinion.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    Some college
    hedonist said:
    mickeyrat said:
    why does it matter?
    Amen.

    One semester of college and I'm doing just fine in life.

    Fuck knows that lacking a degree doesn't make me feel dumb or uneducated.  Life'll learn ya!

    (gambo - :peace: )
    Its a simple observational question.  And it’s been proven that for the majority, those that have earned a college degree, or have been gone to college are more apt to taking on a wider view and balance ideas they agree with and disagree with and can make more informed opinions.  They aren’t the “Fox News” of the right or the anything liberal the can find to read in the “left”.  They are more centered and balanced with their ideas of the world.  It’s just a developmental fact of humans.

    but I will say this, before you attack someone on their “faux news” here, have a common ground and try to understand where each and every one of us is coming from.  You idea is what you think is best for you, and so as the same for another persons.  We all don’t walk in the same shoes..
    I have several highly educated friends and peers who are more closed-minded than their non-educated counterparts. 

    It could be argued that the college educated have merely been taught someone else's biases. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,449
    The last couple of replies are observational and not data driven. Whether or not someone has friends who happen to be educated and close minded has little relevance to the claim made. 

    Matts, since you’ve claimed that there is proof that a college education leads to wider view points and a more balanced approach, how about you post that proof? 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    Some college
    The last couple of replies are observational and not data driven. Whether or not someone has friends who happen to be educated and close minded has little relevance to the claim made. 

    Matts, since you’ve claimed that there is proof that a college education leads to wider view points and a more balanced approach, how about you post that proof? 
    this is what I was also responding to. I have not seen any real data to suggest such a subjective claim. in the absence of such data, I pose my own experience for context. 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,031
    Post grad
    hedonist said:
    mickeyrat said:
    why does it matter?
    Amen.

    One semester of college and I'm doing just fine in life.

    Fuck knows that lacking a degree doesn't make me feel dumb or uneducated.  Life'll learn ya!

    (gambo - :peace: )
    Its a simple observational question.  And it’s been proven that for the majority, those that have earned a college degree, or have been gone to college are more apt to taking on a wider view and balance ideas they agree with and disagree with and can make more informed opinions.  They aren’t the “Fox News” of the right or the anything liberal the can find to read in the “left”.  They are more centered and balanced with their ideas of the world.  It’s just a developmental fact of humans.

    but I will say this, before you attack someone on their “faux news” here, have a common ground and try to understand where each and every one of us is coming from.  You idea is what you think is best for you, and so as the same for another persons.  We all don’t walk in the same shoes..
    I have several highly educated friends and peers who are more closed-minded than their non-educated counterparts. 

    It could be argued that the college educated have merely been taught someone else's biases. 
    It consistently is..."College is about indoctrinating unsuspecting good kids into liberalism...unless you go to Bob Jones University or Liberty."
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,031
    Post grad
    hedonist said:
    mickeyrat said:
    why does it matter?
    Amen.

    One semester of college and I'm doing just fine in life.

    Fuck knows that lacking a degree doesn't make me feel dumb or uneducated.  Life'll learn ya!

    (gambo - :peace: )
    Its a simple observational question.  And it’s been proven that for the majority, those that have earned a college degree, or have been gone to college are more apt to taking on a wider view and balance ideas they agree with and disagree with and can make more informed opinions.  They aren’t the “Fox News” of the right or the anything liberal the can find to read in the “left”.  They are more centered and balanced with their ideas of the world.  It’s just a developmental fact of humans.

    but I will say this, before you attack someone on their “faux news” here, have a common ground and try to understand where each and every one of us is coming from.  You idea is what you think is best for you, and so as the same for another persons.  We all don’t walk in the same shoes..
    Being well read and traveled is worth more than any college education could teach you.

    That's just my opinion.
    Of course, some people do both.

    What either one is "worth" I guess is in the eye of the beholder.  My undergraduate degree rounded me and sharpened my communication skills. While I avoid the trap of "educated = smart" because that's not true, I will say that my non-college friends could not do the jobs I've done...not because of intelligence, but because of the skill-set it provided me.  Actually though, my liberal arts education would have made it tricky for me to advance.  Job-wise, I'd have been better off in trade school, thought that's just not "me."  So my masters (Urban and Regional Planning) helped make me employable.  I've traveled most of the US and been to a few foreign countries and am glad I have.  But the benefits really are apples-and-oranges.  As for being well-read, I admit I should be better-read...again, valuable but still a bit apples-and-oranges.

    One of the problems with this topic and this thread is it's so open to bragging and, in turn, defensiveness.  As long as one has through through his/her options, his/her post-high school path is the correct one...for them and that's what matters.

    For me, "being well read and traveled is worth more than any college education could teach you" is simply not true.  And I would not want that to be true of my doctor or dentist either.  But in general, I don't think we need to have pissing contests between all of these options.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,702
    Graduated with an undergrad
    hedonist said:
    mickeyrat said:
    why does it matter?
    Amen.

    One semester of college and I'm doing just fine in life.

    Fuck knows that lacking a degree doesn't make me feel dumb or uneducated.  Life'll learn ya!

    (gambo - :peace: )
    Its a simple observational question.  And it’s been proven that for the majority, those that have earned a college degree, or have been gone to college are more apt to taking on a wider view and balance ideas they agree with and disagree with and can make more informed opinions.  They aren’t the “Fox News” of the right or the anything liberal the can find to read in the “left”.  They are more centered and balanced with their ideas of the world.  It’s just a developmental fact of humans.

    but I will say this, before you attack someone on their “faux news” here, have a common ground and try to understand where each and every one of us is coming from.  You idea is what you think is best for you, and so as the same for another persons.  We all don’t walk in the same shoes..
    Being well read and traveled is worth more than any college education could teach you.

    That's just my opinion.
    Depends on the person. I've known many extremely well-travelled and well-read morons. I've also known plenty of extremely highly educated morons. And I've met super intelligent people from both slots too. And people who are well-educated and well-travelled, who are also either morons or not.
    I think putting education and life experience up against each other makes no sense whatsoever. What I think the only "right answer" here is that a person with more education and/or life experience is likely to have a leg up on those who have none of either.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,244
    High school graduate
    OnWis97 said:
    hedonist said:
    mickeyrat said:
    why does it matter?
    Amen.

    One semester of college and I'm doing just fine in life.

    Fuck knows that lacking a degree doesn't make me feel dumb or uneducated.  Life'll learn ya!

    (gambo - :peace: )
    Its a simple observational question.  And it’s been proven that for the majority, those that have earned a college degree, or have been gone to college are more apt to taking on a wider view and balance ideas they agree with and disagree with and can make more informed opinions.  They aren’t the “Fox News” of the right or the anything liberal the can find to read in the “left”.  They are more centered and balanced with their ideas of the world.  It’s just a developmental fact of humans.

    but I will say this, before you attack someone on their “faux news” here, have a common ground and try to understand where each and every one of us is coming from.  You idea is what you think is best for you, and so as the same for another persons.  We all don’t walk in the same shoes..
    Being well read and traveled is worth more than any college education could teach you.

    That's just my opinion.
    Of course, some people do both.

    What either one is "worth" I guess is in the eye of the beholder.  My undergraduate degree rounded me and sharpened my communication skills. While I avoid the trap of "educated = smart" because that's not true, I will say that my non-college friends could not do the jobs I've done...not because of intelligence, but because of the skill-set it provided me.  Actually though, my liberal arts education would have made it tricky for me to advance.  Job-wise, I'd have been better off in trade school, thought that's just not "me."  So my masters (Urban and Regional Planning) helped make me employable.  I've traveled most of the US and been to a few foreign countries and am glad I have.  But the benefits really are apples-and-oranges.  As for being well-read, I admit I should be better-read...again, valuable but still a bit apples-and-oranges.

    One of the problems with this topic and this thread is it's so open to bragging and, in turn, defensiveness.  As long as one has through through his/her options, his/her post-high school path is the correct one...for them and that's what matters.

    For me, "being well read and traveled is worth more than any college education could teach you" is simply not true.  And I would not want that to be true of my doctor or dentist either.  But in general, I don't think we need to have pissing contests between all of these options.
    PJ_Soul said:
    hedonist said:
    mickeyrat said:
    why does it matter?
    Amen.

    One semester of college and I'm doing just fine in life.

    Fuck knows that lacking a degree doesn't make me feel dumb or uneducated.  Life'll learn ya!

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    Its a simple observational question.  And it’s been proven that for the majority, those that have earned a college degree, or have been gone to college are more apt to taking on a wider view and balance ideas they agree with and disagree with and can make more informed opinions.  They aren’t the “Fox News” of the right or the anything liberal the can find to read in the “left”.  They are more centered and balanced with their ideas of the world.  It’s just a developmental fact of humans.

    but I will say this, before you attack someone on their “faux news” here, have a common ground and try to understand where each and every one of us is coming from.  You idea is what you think is best for you, and so as the same for another persons.  We all don’t walk in the same shoes..
    Being well read and traveled is worth more than any college education could teach you.

    That's just my opinion.
    Depends on the person. I've known many extremely well-travelled and well-read morons. I've also known plenty of extremely highly educated morons. And I've met super intelligent people from both slots too. And people who are well-educated and well-travelled, who are also either morons or not.
    I think putting education and life experience up against each other makes no sense whatsoever. What I think the only "right answer" here is that a person with more education and/or life experience is likely to have a leg up on those who have none of either.
    You know what, you are both right and agree with you.

    If you still want to eat McDonalds when you are abroad and not try the local delicacies then you don't have to delve outside your box, lol.

    You can travel and not really learn anything.  
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,979
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    My own personal experience is that, in general, college educated people are better at connecting things that on the surface, don’t appear connected. This improves ability to problem solve. They also are better at communicating thoughts and ideas in writing and verbally. They also tend to have a greater ability to see something from another persons viewpoint and can step outside of their subjective experience. I see this at work, where different education levels are doing the same job, and outside of work. I put ‘in general’ because there’s exceptions either way. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,702
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    My own personal experience is that, in general, college educated people are better at connecting things that on the surface, don’t appear connected. This improves ability to problem solve. They also are better at communicating thoughts and ideas in writing and verbally. They also tend to have a greater ability to see something from another persons viewpoint and can step outside of their subjective experience. I see this at work, where different education levels are doing the same job, and outside of work. I put ‘in general’ because there’s exceptions either way. 
    Yes - education can develop and hone the very important skill of critical thinking. I personally think that is one of the most valuable things one can get out of education.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,951
    “Graduated college with degree” individuals consistently and historically have lower unemployment rates than “some college” and “high school graduate,” individuals, per BLS monthly unemployment figures. For those looking for facts.
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TXPosts: 4,179
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    Is this thread a thinly disguised sorter for labeling and categorizing amt users? Why would someone want to see this information in a political realm unless they planned on attacking/using it to their advantage.  It is interesting, but it shouldn’t matter at all, the only thing that matters with regards to voting is your age to do so.  Opinions/beliefs of amt posters are all equally important regardless of education.
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