Western media lies about Syria exposed (Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett)

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 14,659
    polaris_x said:
    Can you reasonably explain why the OPCW inspectors are still being blocked by Assad and Putin? Anyone want to defend the actions of the nice guy ophthalmologist?
    yes ... the decision to go in is based on the UNDSS ... they technically provide "security" ... western nations appointed ... it's being headed by an Australian right now ... this is clearly an attempt to derail the investigation ...

    explain to me how Robert Fisk, Pearson Sharp and a plethora of journalists were in Douma but the OPCW can't get in!???

    let's face it ... unlike Kheik Shaykoun ... there was actually no chemical attack to go along with the accusation ... that's why the narrative has changed to ... "Assad is still a dick even if he didn't gas his people" ...

    it's pretty obvious now that there was no chemical attack in douma ... no deaths ...
    “Clearly” an attempt? Based on what? Another blog post? A YouTube video? Your made up narrative?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 14,734
    polaris_x said:
    JimmyV said:
    "The ballots themselves, however, are just unnumbered slips of paper, and no one expects this show to have a surprise ending."

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/13/474077689/parts-of-syria-vote-in-parliamentary-elections-that-critics-say-are-a-sham

    more of a sham than diebold or hanging chads?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/international-observers-syrias-voting-process-was-fair-and-democratic/5385388

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    I guess we are just going to ignore this one lol
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 14,734
    Honestly...

    I get the feeling someone else is on the payroll... sweet jesus lol
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 14,659

    Here's that flourishing democracy you were talking about.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/04/bashar-al-assad-winds-reelection-in-landslide-victory

    Assad captures another seven-year term after winning almost 90% of the vote, with polling only held in government-held areas.

    Assad's victory was always a foregone conclusion, despite the presence of other candidates on the ballot for the first time in decades. Voting was held only in government-controlled areas, excluding huge tracks of northern and eastern Syria that are in rebel hands. The opposition and its western allies, including the United States, have denounced the election as a farce.

    The win boosts Assad's support base, and provides further evidence that he has no intention of relinquishing power.

    For the first time in decades, there were multiple candidates on the ballot. In previous presidential elections, Assad and before him his father, Hafez Assad, were elected in single candidate referendums in which voters cast yes-no ballots.

    The government has sought to present this vote as a democratic solution to Syria's three-year conflict, although a win for Assad is certain to prolong the war. Much of northern and eastern Syria is in rebel hands, and those in the armed opposition show no signs of relenting in their fight to oust Assad.

    The war, which activists say has killed more than 160,000 people, has left the international community deeply divided, with the US and its allies backing the revolt against Assad, who enjoys the support of Russia and Iran.

    That division persisted in perceptions of Tuesday's vote.

    In Beirut, US secretary of state John Kerry sharply criticized the Syrian election, calling it "a great big zero." He said it can't be considered fair "because you can't have an election where millions of your people don't even have an ability to vote."

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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 4,515
    edited April 21
    There are some reports from the Russian foreign ministry that the inspectors have entered Douma and are at the site of the attack this morning. Not sure if that is accurate based on the sources. Either way, there'll be little to no evidence left if chlorine gas was used.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,082
    my2hands said:
    polaris_x said:
    JimmyV said:
    "The ballots themselves, however, are just unnumbered slips of paper, and no one expects this show to have a surprise ending."

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/13/474077689/parts-of-syria-vote-in-parliamentary-elections-that-critics-say-are-a-sham

    more of a sham than diebold or hanging chads?

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/international-observers-syrias-voting-process-was-fair-and-democratic/5385388

    The above link from global research Which is a pro-russia website from the Centre for Research on Globalization, which publishes conspiracy theories. Their founder Michael Chossudovsky has written that the 9/11 attacks were not committed by Islamic terrorists, and that the attacks were a pretext for war in the Middle East.
    I guess we are just going to ignore this one lol
    The truth, especially believable provable and reliable truth, is always ignored by conspiracy theorists.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 14,659
    From a Republican member of the senate foreign relations committee in yesterday’s NYT. But it surely can be explained away as western war mongering profiteering, I’m sure.


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    You think a conversation hits maximum crazy and then on the next page George Galloway appears... great stuff.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 14,734
    polaris_x said:
    This guy... has his own show on RT!!! Russian State Sponsored media... Putin's personal propaganda machine... he's literally on the payrol... alternative journalism, eh? LOL

    https://www.rt.com/shows/sputnik/
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 14,659
    my2hands said:
    polaris_x said:
    This guy... has his own show on RT!!! Russian State Sponsored media... Putin's personal propaganda machine... he's literally on the payrol... alternative journalism, eh? LOL

    https://www.rt.com/shows/sputnik/
    “Alternative journalism?” Is that like Kelly Ann’s alternative facts? Are they dating?
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    If you're gonna do it, do it right... no disrespect to Chris Robinson :)


  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,964
    Chemical Weapons Inspectors Collect Samples in Syria in Wake of Gas Attack - TIME https://apple.news/AhrDOAR5xSoCnko5hnAMYZw
    Why the two weeks delay? They arrived on the 15th ..
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 14,659
    Chemical Weapons Inspectors Collect Samples in Syria in Wake of Gas Attack - TIME https://apple.news/AhrDOAR5xSoCnko5hnAMYZw
    Why the two weeks delay? They arrived on the 15th ..
    You have to wait for YouTube or a blogger to post the explanation .
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,964
    Chemical Weapons Inspectors Collect Samples in Syria in Wake of Gas Attack - TIME https://apple.news/AhrDOAR5xSoCnko5hnAMYZw
    Why the two weeks delay? They arrived on the 15th ..
    You have to wait for YouTube or a blogger to post the explanation .
    No doubt , funny with Assad security you could enter zone no problem ..
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,345
    any update on the chemical weapons inspectors that were not allowed in until after Assad fabrezed the area?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 14,734
    JC29856 said:
    any update on the chemical weapons inspectors that were not allowed in until after Assad fabrezed the area?

    any update on 100,000 western troops rolling into Syria?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 4,515
    Western cover up continues....
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 15,186
    tbergs said:
    Western cover up continues....
    Assad and Putin are the new gandhi and mlk jr. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,964
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    Western cover up continues....
    Assad and Putin are the new gandhi and mlk jr. 
    lol no doubt total humanitarians the both of’em  .
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 1,815
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    Western cover up continues....
    Assad and Putin are the new gandhi and mlk jr. 
    lol no doubt total humanitarians the both of’em  .
    So all those bombs that the west dropped in the Middle East were for humanitarian purposes?  Who knew.  Lets be clear The US led west invaders are not humanitarians ... far from it.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,964
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    Western cover up continues....
    Assad and Putin are the new gandhi and mlk jr. 
    lol no doubt total humanitarians the both of’em  .
    So all those bombs that the west dropped in the Middle East were for humanitarian purposes?  Who knew.  Lets be clear The US led west invaders are not humanitarians ... far from it.  
    No one is disputing this ^^^ , are you saying Putin & Assad are humanitarians please tell us how ? 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 1,815
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    Western cover up continues....
    Assad and Putin are the new gandhi and mlk jr. 
    lol no doubt total humanitarians the both of’em  .
    So all those bombs that the west dropped in the Middle East were for humanitarian purposes?  Who knew.  Lets be clear The US led west invaders are not humanitarians ... far from it.  
    No one is disputing this ^^^ , are you saying Putin & Assad are humanitarians please tell us how ? 
    I'm not saying they are humanitarians either ... I just find it hilarious that people in the west somehow think the west is in the region for any other reason than oil, and to keep the US military weapons manufacturers happy...
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,964
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    Western cover up continues....
    Assad and Putin are the new gandhi and mlk jr. 
    lol no doubt total humanitarians the both of’em  .
    So all those bombs that the west dropped in the Middle East were for humanitarian purposes?  Who knew.  Lets be clear The US led west invaders are not humanitarians ... far from it.  
    No one is disputing this ^^^ , are you saying Putin & Assad are humanitarians please tell us how ? 
    I'm not saying they are humanitarians either ... I just find it hilarious that people in the west somehow think the west is in the region for any other reason than oil, and to keep the US military weapons manufacturers happy...
    Heck if it was up to me I’d let the Jews & Arabs settle their disputes on their own I’d prefer America stay completely neutral but we know that will never ever happen the Muslims will always have disdain towards Americans as long as we are Israel’s security blanket..
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 1,815
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    Western cover up continues....
    Assad and Putin are the new gandhi and mlk jr. 
    lol no doubt total humanitarians the both of’em  .
    So all those bombs that the west dropped in the Middle East were for humanitarian purposes?  Who knew.  Lets be clear The US led west invaders are not humanitarians ... far from it.  
    No one is disputing this ^^^ , are you saying Putin & Assad are humanitarians please tell us how ? 
    I'm not saying they are humanitarians either ... I just find it hilarious that people in the west somehow think the west is in the region for any other reason than oil, and to keep the US military weapons manufacturers happy...
    Heck if it was up to me I’d let the Jews & Arabs settle their disputes on their own I’d prefer America stay completely neutral but we know that will never ever happen the Muslims will always have disdain towards Americans as long as we are Israel’s security blanket..
    I agree, let the Arabs and Jews settle it ...

    But as far as I'm concerned there is blame on all sides including the backward arab leadership in most of tat region...



  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 14,734
    edited May 13
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    Western cover up continues....
    Assad and Putin are the new gandhi and mlk jr. 
    lol no doubt total humanitarians the both of’em  .
    So all those bombs that the west dropped in the Middle East were for humanitarian purposes?  Who knew.  Lets be clear The US led west invaders are not humanitarians ... far from it.  

    All those bombs? On empty buildings and vacated airfields?

    You do realize Assad and Russia have terrorized and bombed the country back to the stone ages right? Where do you think the refugees came from, american bombs?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 15,186
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    Western cover up continues....
    Assad and Putin are the new gandhi and mlk jr. 
    lol no doubt total humanitarians the both of’em  .
    So all those bombs that the west dropped in the Middle East were for humanitarian purposes?  Who knew.  Lets be clear The US led west invaders are not humanitarians ... far from it.  
    No one is disputing this ^^^ , are you saying Putin & Assad are humanitarians please tell us how ? 
    I'm not saying they are humanitarians either ... I just find it hilarious that people in the west somehow think the west is in the region for any other reason than oil, and to keep the US military weapons manufacturers happy...
    Which americans think we aren't there for oil?  I mean it makes sense we are there for oil.  Why else would we be there?  Would you rather bad guys take over the oil supplies and hold the entire world hostage?  Do you want to see $7 a gallon?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 7,955
    “Bad guys”? Seriously? American business interests will get the very highest price they can for their product.  They are never, ever, going to offer a lower price for humanitarian interests. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 15,186
    “Bad guys”? Seriously? American business interests will get the very highest price they can for their product.  They are never, ever, going to offer a lower price for humanitarian interests. 
    Yes bad guys.   There are good guys And bad guys in this world. And of course American businesses and the majority of every other business owner in the world. are going to get highest price. They are all in it to make a profit. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,964
    Gas creeping up on $3 a gl here on Long Island..
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