Dying alone

Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,304
http://www.theage.com.au/world/so-many-japanese-people-die-alone-theres-an-industry-devoted-to-cleaning-up-after-them-20180125-h0obbc.html

Pretty sad.
It's happened here in Australia and I take it around the world.
I fear this is what will happen to me when I am older as I am single, not many friends, disconnected from my family.
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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  • Are you single and 75 years old?

    Otherwise there are a bunch of Pearl Jam shows ahead where you will find mr/mrs Right. Who will clean up after your dead body :)
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,304
    single and 33.
    Can't afford concert right now.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • single and 33.
    Can't afford concert right now.
    -84? I'm also single and 33...
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 10,916
    My buddy who is 32 is cleaning up right now, he's got a list of recently divorced ladies age 40 or so vying for his attention.
    Get them cougars Thoughts_Arrive!
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  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 19,149
    It surely is sad (perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought that the Asian culture, much like middle-Easterners, typically look after their older parents), but to worry about this for yourself...at 33?

    There is life to be lived; it helps to find reasons to do so than to be self-defeatist and say why you can't (or won't?).
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 10,916
    hedonist said:
    It surely is sad (perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought that the Asian culture, much like middle-Easterners, typically look after their older parents), but to worry about this for yourself...at 33?

    There is life to be lived; it helps to find reasons to do so than to be self-defeatist and say why you can't (or won't?).
    I think what Hedo means to say is, GET THEM COUGARS BUD!
    But I could be wrong :wink:
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  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 19,149
    rgambs said:
    hedonist said:
    It surely is sad (perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought that the Asian culture, much like middle-Easterners, typically look after their older parents), but to worry about this for yourself...at 33?

    There is life to be lived; it helps to find reasons to do so than to be self-defeatist and say why you can't (or won't?).
    I think what Hedo means to say is, GET THEM COUGARS BUD!
    But I could be wrong :wink:
    =)

  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 12,877
    I'll die alone.  Or maybe with a cat?

    I'll die with my PJ socks though.  I'll always have those, lol!
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,304
    rgambs said:
    My buddy who is 32 is cleaning up right now, he's got a list of recently divorced ladies age 40 or so vying for his attention.
    Get them cougars Thoughts_Arrive!
    I tried with a lady 6 years older than me and she saw me as too young.
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  • ConorKavanaghConorKavanagh 38Posts: 411
    There's plenty of time man. It's never too late to start over. However, it's good that a service like this exists I think. Still sad, nonetheless.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 12,778
    I was cougar huntin' in my early 20s.  This was before the widespread acceptance if this as fair game and complete with a funny nickname.  I was just looking for women who liked me and had enough money to buy me drinks and associated things.
    Learned a lot in those days.
    Keep looking...if you can't be with the one you love....love the one your with!  

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,796
    I m 40 and my wife is 42...did I marry a cougar?  ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,796
    single and 33.
    Can't afford concert right now.
    I got divorced at 32, have faith bud. Life gets better!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • amethgr8amethgr8 Posts: 594
    It's sad that he could not (maybe) move on to the next chapter of life after work, or maybe he didn't want to.  Like how the press/society coins it as "lonely" death, maybe he wanted to be alone, maybe he didn't like people.  I don't have kids, when I go, I'll go, and wherever I am I will be on the earth where I began.

    How old do you have to be, to be considered a cougar?  What is the name for older men called that date younger women?

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 14,796
    amethgr8 said:
    It's sad that he could not (maybe) move on to the next chapter of life after work, or maybe he didn't want to.  Like how the press/society coins it as "lonely" death, maybe he wanted to be alone, maybe he didn't like people.  I don't have kids, when I go, I'll go, and wherever I am I will be on the earth where I began.

    How old do you have to be, to be considered a cougar?  What is the name for older men called that date younger women?

    Creepy! Lol
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 4,934
    edited January 30
    amethgr8 said:
    What is the name for older men called that date younger women?

    POTUS?
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,636
    amethgr8 said:
    It's sad that he could not (maybe) move on to the next chapter of life after work, or maybe he didn't want to.  Like how the press/society coins it as "lonely" death, maybe he wanted to be alone, maybe he didn't like people.  I don't have kids, when I go, I'll go, and wherever I am I will be on the earth where I began.

    How old do you have to be, to be considered a cougar?  What is the name for older men called that date younger women?

    I believe the rule is half your age plus seven. 
    So if you're 36 years old: 36/2 +7 = 25
    Dating anyone under 25 would make you a cougar. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 10,283
    edited January 30

    Pretty morbid stuff.  I'm 36 and single.  If I don't get married and have kids I won't be relying on my nieces and nephews to take care of me so I'm going to have to save up some cash.  I need to factor in the cost of at home care or assisted living in my retirement plan.

    Personally, when I get to the point where I can't travel, golf, or get around on my own and don't have a spouse or kids/grandkids to care about, I'm not sure how excited I'll be to hang around and watch Netflix.  Easy to say that now at 36.  

    One thing I am seriously thinking about is early retirement.  You hear all the time people dying of cancer, heart attacks or getting dementia shortly after retirement.   There are no guarantees.  I want to use the money I'm earning now to enjoy life when I'm healthy and not work all the time and use the earnings to pay for doctor bills in the future.  If the money runs out there will be government handouts I'm sure.

  • Pretty morbid stuff.  I'm 36 and single.  If I don't get married and have kids I won't be relying on my nieces and nephews to take care of me so I'm going to have to save up some cash.  I need to factor in the cost of at home care or assisted living in my retirement plan.

    Personally, when I get to the point where I can't travel, golf, or get around on my own and don't have a spouse or kids/grandkids to care about, I'm not sure how excited I'll be to hang around and watch Netflix.  Easy to say that now at 36.  

    One thing I am seriously thinking about is early retirement.  You hear all the time people dying of cancer, heart attacks or getting dementia shortly after retirement.   There are no guarantees.  I want to use the money I'm earning now to enjoy life when I'm healthy and not work all the time and use the earnings to pay for doctor bills in the future.  If the money runs out there will be government handouts I'm sure.


    Obviously pace yourself, but your approach is solid! There are no guarantees. I tell any of my friends that 'can't afford a mountain bike' or 'can't afford to go to a concert'... that they can't take their money to the grave with them. I tell them to save their money so when they pass early... their widowed wife can shack up with some bum who can go spend their savings on fun stuff.

    And hey... I turned 50 this year. I feel 20. I listen to my music loud and I listen to heavy music. I work out as much as I can (running, mountain biking in the summer, cross country skiing in the winter, and the gym when I cannot do any of those things). I golf when I want. I go to concerts when I want. I basically do whatever I want.

    What I'm saying is... 50 is young. I wouldn't have thought so at 30, but it is. Hell... I'm thinking 70 is still young. I'm going to keep doing the things I'm doing now until I simply cannot any more.

    OP... you gotta get yourself to a better place! I've followed your struggles on these forums. I recognize you are fighting some demons. Don't let them get the best of you. What I would say to you is 'fake it till you make it'. Wake up tomorrow and play the part of a confident, energetic, fun guy... until you become one for real.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 19,149

    Pretty morbid stuff.  I'm 36 and single.  If I don't get married and have kids I won't be relying on my nieces and nephews to take care of me so I'm going to have to save up some cash.  I need to factor in the cost of at home care or assisted living in my retirement plan.

    Personally, when I get to the point where I can't travel, golf, or get around on my own and don't have a spouse or kids/grandkids to care about, I'm not sure how excited I'll be to hang around and watch Netflix.  Easy to say that now at 36.  

    One thing I am seriously thinking about is early retirement.  You hear all the time people dying of cancer, heart attacks or getting dementia shortly after retirement.   There are no guarantees.  I want to use the money I'm earning now to enjoy life when I'm healthy and not work all the time and use the earnings to pay for doctor bills in the future.  If the money runs out there will be government handouts I'm sure.


    Obviously pace yourself, but your approach is solid! There are no guarantees. I tell any of my friends that 'can't afford a mountain bike' or 'can't afford to go to a concert'... that they can't take their money to the grave with them. I tell them to save their money so when they pass early... their widowed wife can shack up with some bum who can go spend their savings on fun stuff.

    And hey... I turned 50 this year. I feel 20. I listen to my music loud and I listen to heavy music. I work out as much as I can (running, mountain biking in the summer, cross country skiing in the winter, and the gym when I cannot do any of those things). I golf when I want. I go to concerts when I want. I basically do whatever I want.

    What I'm saying is... 50 is young. I wouldn't have thought so at 30, but it is. Hell... I'm thinking 70 is still young. I'm going to keep doing the things I'm doing now until I simply cannot any more.

    OP... you gotta get yourself to a better place! I've followed your struggles on these forums. I recognize you are fighting some demons. Don't let them get the best of you. What I would say to you is 'fake it till you make it'. Wake up tomorrow and play the part of a confident, energetic, fun guy... until you become one for real.
    Hell to the yeah, Thirty.  I'm coming on three years ahead of you, husband is over seven years younger than I, and really....fuck it.  Numbers mean shit in the end.

    It's about the love you make, and hopefully take.  And give.

    Timelines?  They're not dictated.
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,304
    mcgruff10 said:
    single and 33.
    Can't afford concert right now.
    I got divorced at 32, have faith bud. Life gets better!
    Thank you.
    I have never had a girlfriend. Lost hope a long time ago.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,304

    Pretty morbid stuff.  I'm 36 and single.  If I don't get married and have kids I won't be relying on my nieces and nephews to take care of me so I'm going to have to save up some cash.  I need to factor in the cost of at home care or assisted living in my retirement plan.

    Personally, when I get to the point where I can't travel, golf, or get around on my own and don't have a spouse or kids/grandkids to care about, I'm not sure how excited I'll be to hang around and watch Netflix.  Easy to say that now at 36.  

    One thing I am seriously thinking about is early retirement.  You hear all the time people dying of cancer, heart attacks or getting dementia shortly after retirement.   There are no guarantees.  I want to use the money I'm earning now to enjoy life when I'm healthy and not work all the time and use the earnings to pay for doctor bills in the future.  If the money runs out there will be government handouts I'm sure.


    Obviously pace yourself, but your approach is solid! There are no guarantees. I tell any of my friends that 'can't afford a mountain bike' or 'can't afford to go to a concert'... that they can't take their money to the grave with them. I tell them to save their money so when they pass early... their widowed wife can shack up with some bum who can go spend their savings on fun stuff.

    And hey... I turned 50 this year. I feel 20. I listen to my music loud and I listen to heavy music. I work out as much as I can (running, mountain biking in the summer, cross country skiing in the winter, and the gym when I cannot do any of those things). I golf when I want. I go to concerts when I want. I basically do whatever I want.

    What I'm saying is... 50 is young. I wouldn't have thought so at 30, but it is. Hell... I'm thinking 70 is still young. I'm going to keep doing the things I'm doing now until I simply cannot any more.

    OP... you gotta get yourself to a better place! I've followed your struggles on these forums. I recognize you are fighting some demons. Don't let them get the best of you. What I would say to you is 'fake it till you make it'. Wake up tomorrow and play the part of a confident, energetic, fun guy... until you become one for real.
    Thank you.
    I hate and struggle faking.

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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 2,974
    Speak to women the same as you would a good friend and if you are real and humble you will be friends with people that will develop if you are open. Love sometimes happens but try not to look for it. Remember to be yourself I guess is what i mean.
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  • So this has turned into a "i cant find love" thread? :)
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  • I'll die alone.  Or maybe with a cat?

    I'll die with my PJ socks though.  I'll always have those, lol!

    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,304
    Speak to women the same as you would a good friend and if you are real and humble you will be friends with people that will develop if you are open. Love sometimes happens but try not to look for it. Remember to be yourself I guess is what i mean.
    Thanks mate.
    Shyness kills me.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,304
    So this has turned into a "i cant find love" thread? :)
    Sorry for derailing my own thread.
    Back on topic.
    I only have immediate family here, I don't get along with mum, I am estranged from one sister, other sister has her own worries, I am single and seem unable to form relationships with women, I only have one friend I actually speak to often and see regularly, the others I only hear from online here and there. Having said that, the way it looks I will be on my own when I finally move out of my parents' home. I'll be living alone in a house or unit or apartment, won't hear from family much. I don't know, I just fear this future for me. I will be like Obi Wan Kenobi, a strange old hermit that lives somewhere secluded.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • amethgr8 said:
    It's sad that he could not (maybe) move on to the next chapter of life after work, or maybe he didn't want to.  Like how the press/society coins it as "lonely" death, maybe he wanted to be alone, maybe he didn't like people.  I don't have kids, when I go, I'll go, and wherever I am I will be on the earth where I began.

    How old do you have to be, to be considered a cougar?  What is the name for older men called that date younger women?

    Lucky.
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  • After my train wreck of a relationship ended a few months ago, I've realized I'm just happier being single. My dog loves me. :smile:
    I'm through with screaming
  • amethgr8amethgr8 Posts: 594
    Relationships are work.  If you want them we have to work for them.  Family and friends try and challenge who we are and hopefully we grow from it.

    Fake it till you make it-works!

    I am not that concerned about dying alone as long as I can get out the day before or have a full life up to that time.  I don't know that I'm that concerned with those that may have to clean up my passing, that's the way it goes.

    I think it's assumptive to assume the man in the article was lonely.  
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