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Congratulations to those who are in the new class of the Hall of Fame:

Chipper Jones
Vladimir Guerrero
Jim Thome
Trevor Hoffman

Disappointed McGriff and Edgar didn't make the cut, but what are you going to do?
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    DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 40,853
    solid list.  congrats to all.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,322
    I'm not sure about Hoffman
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
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    DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
    They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
    Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

    Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,736
    Degeneratefk said:
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
    Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

    Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    Degeneratefk said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
    They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
    Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

    Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.
    exactly.  I don't think a dh should be in the hof.  was he ever a mvp?


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    DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Indifference71 said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
    Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

    Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.
    I can understand why Ruth wasn't. It was the first class and he rubbed people the wrong way. 

    IT is absolutley absurd that guys like griffey, Mike Schmidt,  Nolan Ryan, Rickey Henderson, and others like that aren't all unanimously voted in. The worst are guys that say "yea, he's a hall of famer,  just not a first ballot hall of famer." How fucking stupid does that sound? What's the fucking difference if it's the first or 4th time on the ballot?

    Anyone that didn't vote for ken griffey Jr should lose their vote. And part of the problem is that voters can only vote for 10 guys. Which is stupid. A voter should be able to vote for whoever is eligible. It makes no sense to limit the number of people you can vote for.
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,221
    Degeneratefk said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
    They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
    Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

    Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

    I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

    Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,452
    Indifference71 said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
    Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

    Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

    griffey may have juiced :wink:

    also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Poncier said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
    They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
    Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

    Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

    I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

    Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

    Youre absolutely right. I forgot about him. But that's still only 2
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,322
    Poncier said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
    They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
    Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

    Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

    I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

    Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

    Yet Omar Visquel doesn't. Unfortunately he played at the time of ARod, Jeter, Nomar
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,221
    Wobbie said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
    Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

    Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

    griffey may have juiced :wink:

    also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.

    Griffey most likely juiced, just never got caught and people liked him so reporters didn't try and dig up dirt on him.
    His power stats are a perfect bell curve showing the years he juiced and his body breaking down at the end is another tell tale sign.
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    Degeneratefk said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
    Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

    Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.
    I can understand why Ruth wasn't. It was the first class and he rubbed people the wrong way. 

    IT is absolutley absurd that guys like griffey, Mike Schmidt,  Nolan Ryan, Rickey Henderson, and others like that aren't all unanimously voted in. The worst are guys that say "yea, he's a hall of famer,  just not a first ballot hall of famer." How fucking stupid does that sound? What's the fucking difference if it's the first or 4th time on the ballot?

    Anyone that didn't vote for ken griffey Jr should lose their vote. And part of the problem is that voters can only vote for 10 guys. Which is stupid. A voter should be able to vote for whoever is eligible. It makes no sense to limit the number of people you can vote for.
    Exactly.  If someone's a hall-of-famer, they're a hall-of-famer.  The player has already put in their time and effort. Now you want to make them wait to get in the hall like it's some fucking mental trial or something?  So stupid.

    I agree, if you want to vote for everyone eligible, you should be able to do so.  Not just for 10 people.
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    I'm good with this year's class except for one thing...  Bonds should've gotten in.
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    WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe I have no idea what's going on right now! Posts: 4,957
    Wobbie said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
    Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

    Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

    griffey may have juiced :wink:

    also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.
    Have you watched Fastball on Netflix? They try to sort out how hard guys were throwing back then.
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    DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    WhatYouTaughtMe said:
    Wobbie said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
    Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

    Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

    griffey may have juiced :wink:

    also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.
    Have you watched Fastball on Netflix? They try to sort out how hard guys were throwing back then.
    Yea, looks like guys like Walter Johnson was throwing around 94mph. Ifbi remember right, Nolan Ryan threw the fastest pitch at 108?? Ambi remembering that right? 

    Even so, the fields were generally bigger back then.
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    WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe I have no idea what's going on right now! Posts: 4,957
    edited January 2018
    Degeneratefk said:
    WhatYouTaughtMe said:
    Wobbie said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
    Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

    Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

    griffey may have juiced :wink:

    also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.
    Have you watched Fastball on Netflix? They try to sort out how hard guys were throwing back then.
    Yea, looks like guys like Walter Johnson was throwing around 94mph. Ifbi remember right, Nolan Ryan threw the fastest pitch at 108?? Ambi remembering that right? 

    Even so, the fields were generally bigger back then.
    Yeah, they accounted for how and where the pitches were measured from and recalculated to figure out how they compared to today's fastballs.

    Edit - 108 is nasty
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    ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,964
    It's cool that the people being inducted now are players that I actually grew up watching. Nice to see Thome get in
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    markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SC Posts: 5,104
    edited January 2018
    As a Braves fan, definitely happy to see Chipper make it in. He and Tom Glavine were my favorite players as a kid. The other 3 are definitely deserving as well. I was on the fence about Vlad, but I'm ok with him there. I grew up about 10 minutes from where the Charlotte, NC AAA team played. They were an Indians affiliate for a couple of years and one of those teams had Jim Thome and Manny Ramirez. I think it was the 1994 season. You could tell even then that both of them were going to great.
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    SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,346
    mcgruff10 said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
    They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
    Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

    Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.
    exactly.  I don't think a dh should be in the hof.  was he ever a mvp?


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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,985
    Poncier said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
    They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
    Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

    Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

    I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

    Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

    No cubby fans here?

    Evers to Tinker To Chance...

    Three people made famous for their defense from a poem!
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,985
    Hoffman would have been reveled as Great if he didn't happen to be playing the same time that Rivera was playing.

    Jones was an amazing bat and fielder.

    Thome was class and a good hitter, good fielder too.

    Vladimir I loved.  Loved him.  He is not a HOF player though...

    Hopefully Bonds and Clemens get in soon.  

    Edgar Martinez doesn't have the numbers so everyone needs to stop with him going in.  He doesn't have any of the big numbers.

    When Pappi Ortiz is eligible he will get in because he has that magical 500HR in his reume.
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,221
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Poncier said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
    They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
    Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

    Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

    I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

    Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

    No cubby fans here?

    Evers to Tinker To Chance...

    Three people made famous for their defense from a poem!

    Actually its Tinkers to Evers to Chance.
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,221
    tempo_n_groove said:


    When Pappi Ortiz is eligible he will get in because he has that magical 500HR in his reume.

    And the 3 titles and numerous clutch post season hits.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,322
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Hoffman would have been reveled as Great if he didn't happen to be playing the same time that Rivera was playing.

    Jones was an amazing bat and fielder.

    Thome was class and a good hitter, good fielder too.

    Vladimir I loved.  Loved him.  He is not a HOF player though...

    Hopefully Bonds and Clemens get in soon.  

    Edgar Martinez doesn't have the numbers so everyone needs to stop with him going in.  He doesn't have any of the big numbers.

    When Pappi Ortiz is eligible he will get in because he has that magical 500HR in his reume.
    Hoffman feels more like a compiler. Also wasn't great when it counted.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,985
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Poncier said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    bonds didn't get in? i thought writers were warming up to him?
    They are. Bonds and Clemons got over 50%. You need 75% (I think) to get in. That's up a lot from their first years of eligibility.  They will get in eventually. All of thrm will. Bonds, Clemons, McGuire, Sosa....

    mcgruff10 said:
    I don't consider edgar a hof.  mcgriff.....border line i guess.  The four that got in are all solid.
    Why not? Because he was a DH? How many players can you name that made the hall of fame because of their defense? I can think of one. Bill Mazeroski. 

    Edgar certainly has the numbers to be in.

    I'd say Ozzie Smith got in because of defense.

    Not too many other .262 lifetime hitters with 28 career HR were first ballot HOFers.

    No cubby fans here?

    Evers to Tinker To Chance...

    Three people made famous for their defense from a poem!

    Actually its Tinkers to Evers to Chance.
    I'm shocked someone else actually knows it!!!

    That's how I learned about them in a book about baseball!
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,985
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:


    When Pappi Ortiz is eligible he will get in because he has that magical 500HR in his reume.

    And the 3 titles and numerous clutch post season hits.
    Titles mean squat in the baseball world.  That only holds weight in Bball and football.

    Baseball was a numbers game up until the hall of fame became the Hall of good the last few inductions...
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 40,853
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Indifference71 said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    I hate BBHOF voters. They are all uppity bitches.  Edgar and McGriff should be in. 
    Chipper, Thome, and Hoffman are no brainers. I guess I never considered Vlad a HOFer.  But that dude could hit a baseball and had a cannon of an arm.
    Yep.  Baseball HOF voters are the worst. 

    Ken Griffey Jr. somehow wasn't unanimously voted in last year.  Even fucking Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous vote!  Bunch of pretentious douchebags.

    griffey may have juiced :wink:

    also, I wonder (seriously) what would have been the fastest pitch fat babe ever had to hit.

    Griffey most likely juiced, just never got caught and people liked him so reporters didn't try and dig up dirt on him.
    His power stats are a perfect bell curve showing the years he juiced and his body breaking down at the end is another tell tale sign.
      I know he was addicted to nerve tonic that gave him gigantism.
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