ESPN reporting that the Raptors and Spurs are finalizing a trade involving DeMar DeRozan and Kawhi Leonard. Risky move for Toronto, especially if they are unable to re-sign him. I don't know if I could trade 3 years of DeRozan for only 1 guaranteed year of Leonard. Apparently neither one was particularly enthusiastic about it when learning of it. Didn't see this one coming.
ESPN reporting that the Raptors and Spurs are finalizing a trade involving DeMar DeRozan and Kawhi Leonard. Risky move for Toronto, especially if they are unable to re-sign him. I don't know if I could trade 3 years of DeRozan for only 1 guaranteed year of Leonard. Apparently neither one was particularly enthusiastic about it when learning of it. Didn't see this one coming.
DeRozan was told that they "wouldn't trade him"... Well he will be salted come his next contract signing.
ESPN reporting that the Raptors and Spurs are finalizing a trade involving DeMar DeRozan and Kawhi Leonard. Risky move for Toronto, especially if they are unable to re-sign him. I don't know if I could trade 3 years of DeRozan for only 1 guaranteed year of Leonard. Apparently neither one was particularly enthusiastic about it when learning of it. Didn't see this one coming.
DeRozan was told that they "wouldn't trade him"... Well he will be salted come his next contract signing.
Anybody else see Kawhi not liking it in Toronto?
should have gone to philly
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ESPN reporting that the Raptors and Spurs are finalizing a trade involving DeMar DeRozan and Kawhi Leonard. Risky move for Toronto, especially if they are unable to re-sign him. I don't know if I could trade 3 years of DeRozan for only 1 guaranteed year of Leonard. Apparently neither one was particularly enthusiastic about it when learning of it. Didn't see this one coming.
DeRozan was told that they "wouldn't trade him"... Well he will be salted come his next contract signing.
he def wasn’t as injured as he said... this whole thing was a grand scheme to force the Spurs hand with trying to portray them as the bad guys when it clearly backfired and made him and his team look like morons
its one thing to do this if you play for the Kings, the Nets or some shitty bottomdweller piss poor run franchise.
He should have kept this in house, told them ... look I want to go to the Lakers, LA clippers whatever and I don’t plan to resign here
The guy had a lot of Respect... mid round selection turned into best NBA 2 way player, finals MVP , champion, hard worker
The trade is official and it's this: The Toronto Raptors announced Wednesday they have acquired two-time NBA All-Star forward Kawhi Leonard and guard Danny Green from the San Antonio Spurs in exchange for guard DeMar DeRozan, centre Jakob Poeltl and a protected 2019 first-round draft pick.
I love this trade from the Spurs perspective, three years of a guy who can average 25 points and show something with an evolving 3-point game (he shot 31 percent). Yes, Leonard is the better player but who knows where this guy is mentally or health wise. I guess he could be ultra-motivated being this is a contract year, but already reports are surfacing he doesn't want to go to Toronto, which other than the cold weather is a good basketball city from my experience of going to a game and watching the Raptors trade.
Of course the downside for DeRozan after three years of not being able to shake LeBron in the playoffs, he goes to the Western Conference where LeBron happens to be. At least we get four times of DeRozan-Curry in the regular season.
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I've seen where people think Toronto won this trade. Can't see it myself, as I would be massively shocked if Kawhi stays past next season. Whoever is advising him is tarnishing his career.
Spurs received a decent package back and if DeRozen is as upset as it seems, he may take another step up to make Toronto wish they never traded him. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he is certainly in the top SG's in the NBA.
I also think Toronto took a huge risk , they may look terrible for trading away the face of the franchise for a 1 year rental
I'll ride the wave where it takes me
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*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
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*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
I've seen where people think Toronto won this trade. Can't see it myself, as I would be massively shocked if Kawhi stays past next season. Whoever is advising him is tarnishing his career.
Spurs received a decent package back and if DeRozen is as upset as it seems, he may take another step up to make Toronto wish they never traded him. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he is certainly in the top SG's in the NBA.
I also think Toronto took a huge risk , they may look terrible for trading away the face of the franchise for a 1 year rental
Everything I hear about Toronto as a Basketball town is legit. It's a town that embraces the players. Kawhi may not want to leave after being there.
I've seen where people think Toronto won this trade. Can't see it myself, as I would be massively shocked if Kawhi stays past next season. Whoever is advising him is tarnishing his career.
Spurs received a decent package back and if DeRozen is as upset as it seems, he may take another step up to make Toronto wish they never traded him. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he is certainly in the top SG's in the NBA.
I also think Toronto took a huge risk , they may look terrible for trading away the face of the franchise for a 1 year rental
Everything I hear about Toronto as a Basketball town is legit. It's a town that embraces the players. Kawhi may not want to leave after being there.
We will have to see.
I hope he stays, the NBA needs talent in the East. I agree that Toronto is a Basketball Town and maybe he does a PG and stays when everyone thought he'd run to LA
I'll ride the wave where it takes me
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*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
Melo gone to Atlanta, to be waived and most likely end up at Houston..... For me, unless Houston makes some other changes, they are worse than last year, especially defensively
Schroeder to OKC is interesting, he could be a good 6th man option if he embraces it. It looks like he thinks he's a star, but reality is different
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*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
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Melo gone to Atlanta, to be waived and most likely end up at Houston..... For me, unless Houston makes some other changes, they are worse than last year, especially defensively
Schroeder to OKC is interesting, he could be a good 6th man option if he embraces it. It looks like he thinks he's a star, but reality is different
Easy to look like a star playing in a shitty team.
Melo gone to Atlanta, to be waived and most likely end up at Houston..... For me, unless Houston makes some other changes, they are worse than last year, especially defensively
Schroeder to OKC is interesting, he could be a good 6th man option if he embraces it. It looks like he thinks he's a star, but reality is different
Easy to look like a star playing in a shitty team.
Yes, but I don't think he looked like a star playing for Atlanta. I think he believes he's a star, but last season, the Hawks essentially gave him the team and said show us what you can do, and the result is them drafting Trae Young and trading him. He was pretty bloody average last season
I'll ride the wave where it takes me
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*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
Oh lol! They really can do something this year with Gobert, Mitchell and Rubio. Quinn Snyder is one of the most underrated coach in the NBA (I didn’t get how Brad Stevens wasn’t coach of the year last season though..)
The NBA Board of Governors is reportedly meeting on September 20 and 21 to vote on three potential rule changes for the coming season, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.
The league could change shot clock rules after an offensive rebound by resetting the time to 14 seconds as opposed to 24. Currently, the shot clock resets to 14 seconds only after a defensive foul is called with 13 seconds or fewer remaining.
This would change the speed of the game, especially in late-game situations, where it would be an added advantage for defending squads. The shortened clock would force teams with possession to waste less time.
The second rule change is a simplification of the clear-path foul that currently gives the offensive player two free throws and possession if:
The ball and an offensive player were positioned between the tip-off-circle extended in the backcourt and the basket in the frontcourt,
There was no defender between the ball and the basket,
There was no defender ahead of the player being fouled with the opportunity to position himself between the ball and the basket,
The defender who committed the foul against the player with the ball was not ahead of him at any time after he entered the frontcourt, and
The foul denied the offensive team an opportunity to score
The final rule discussed is an expanded definition of a "hostile act" to trigger video replay for a referee. The NBA definition is any situation "when a player intentionally or recklessly harms or attempts to harm another player with a punch, elbow, kick, or blow to the head."
Each potential change will be subjected to a vote that two-thirds of the board must agree upon for approval to pass for the upcoming season.
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I've seen where people think Toronto won this trade. Can't see it myself, as I would be massively shocked if Kawhi stays past next season. Whoever is advising him is tarnishing his career.
Spurs received a decent package back and if DeRozen is as upset as it seems, he may take another step up to make Toronto wish they never traded him. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he is certainly in the top SG's in the NBA.
I also think Toronto took a huge risk , they may look terrible for trading away the face of the franchise for a 1 year rental
Everything I hear about Toronto as a Basketball town is legit. It's a town that embraces the players. Kawhi may not want to leave after being there.
We will have to see.
I hope he stays, the NBA needs talent in the East. I agree that Toronto is a Basketball Town and maybe he does a PG and stays when everyone thought he'd run to LA
“playoff P”?
why do people even consider this guy?
If I had known then what I know now...
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The final rule discussed is an expanded definition of a "hostile act" to trigger video replay for a referee. The NBA definition is any situation "when a player intentionally or recklessly harms or attempts to harm another player with a punch, elbow, kick, or blow to the head."
man he was a breath of fresh air when he came into the league. One of the most decorated players in history.
i enjoyed watching him
so weird, no Duncan, Parker or Ginobili
Agree - an absolute star who always carried himself to a high standard. He will be missed greatly by basketball fans
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*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
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Definitely a HOFer. Always liked Ginobili and it's sad to see the last piece of the Spurs Big Three dynasty go away. All good things must come to an end. What an outstanding career!
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Anybody else see Kawhi not liking it in Toronto?
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he def wasn’t as injured as he said... this whole thing was a grand scheme to force the Spurs hand with trying to portray them as the bad guys when it clearly backfired and made him and his team look like morons
its one thing to do this if you play for the Kings, the Nets or some shitty bottomdweller piss poor run franchise.
He should have kept this in house, told them ... look I want to go to the Lakers, LA clippers whatever and I don’t plan to resign here
The guy had a lot of Respect... mid round selection turned into best NBA 2 way player, finals MVP , champion, hard worker
now this?
The Toronto Raptors announced Wednesday they have acquired two-time NBA All-Star forward Kawhi Leonard and guard Danny Green from the San Antonio Spurs in exchange for guard DeMar DeRozan, centre Jakob Poeltl and a protected 2019 first-round draft pick.
I love this trade from the Spurs perspective, three years of a guy who can average 25 points and show something with an evolving 3-point game (he shot 31 percent). Yes, Leonard is the better player but who knows where this guy is mentally or health wise. I guess he could be ultra-motivated being this is a contract year, but already reports are surfacing he doesn't want to go to Toronto, which other than the cold weather is a good basketball city from my experience of going to a game and watching the Raptors trade.
Of course the downside for DeRozan after three years of not being able to shake LeBron in the playoffs, he goes to the Western Conference where LeBron happens to be. At least we get four times of DeRozan-Curry in the regular season.
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Spurs received a decent package back and if DeRozen is as upset as it seems, he may take another step up to make Toronto wish they never traded him. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he is certainly in the top SG's in the NBA.
I also think Toronto took a huge risk , they may look terrible for trading away the face of the franchise for a 1 year rental
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
We will have to see.
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
Schroeder to OKC is interesting, he could be a good 6th man option if he embraces it. It looks like he thinks he's a star, but reality is different
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
(I didn’t get how Brad Stevens wasn’t coach of the year last season though..)
The NBA Board of Governors is reportedly meeting on September 20 and 21 to vote on three potential rule changes for the coming season, according to ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.
The league could change shot clock rules after an offensive rebound by resetting the time to 14 seconds as opposed to 24. Currently, the shot clock resets to 14 seconds only after a defensive foul is called with 13 seconds or fewer remaining.
This would change the speed of the game, especially in late-game situations, where it would be an added advantage for defending squads. The shortened clock would force teams with possession to waste less time.
The second rule change is a simplification of the clear-path foul that currently gives the offensive player two free throws and possession if:
The final rule discussed is an expanded definition of a "hostile act" to trigger video replay for a referee. The NBA definition is any situation "when a player intentionally or recklessly harms or attempts to harm another player with a punch, elbow, kick, or blow to the head."
Each potential change will be subjected to a vote that two-thirds of the board must agree upon for approval to pass for the upcoming season.
can’t unsee!!!!
motherfucker probably makes $30M+ per year.
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why do people even consider this guy?
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Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I hate any video replay on a foul.
Stop it.
Clear path foul, aye
Hostile act replay, nay
man he was a breath of fresh air when he came into the league. One of the most decorated players in history.
i enjoyed watching him
so weird, no Duncan, Parker or Ginobili
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
This guy was almost the 60th pick in the draft, 2nd rd!!!
I do think he gets in the HOF.
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I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..