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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere.Posts: 3,182
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    Kat said:
    How does this guy still have a job at fox?
    T minus 9 days and counting..........
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    Were is JC when you need him or is he trying to decipher the Hannity chart ...
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  • It seems fox’s Viewers are really angry about reality. Why you bringing reality all up in here, Shep?
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  • Were is JC when you need him or is he trying to decipher the Hannity chart ...
    Might be busy redrawing the chart or convincing Hannity to include Comet Pizza and Podesta’s napkin.

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    Were is JC when you need him or is he trying to decipher the Hannity chart ...
    Might be busy redrawing the chart or convincing Hannity to include Comet Pizza and Podesta’s napkin.

    lol no dout .
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  • Monica blew, Hillary knew.  Bill raped, Hillary attacked the victims.    This all could have stopped 20 years ago had Hillary been brave enough.  She's no better than Joe Paterno.  She had all the power in the world to stop the passing along. How many victims could have been prevented?   It's about time the clintons are being called out for what they are.   Trump is nothing compared to what Bill did.  Sorry, those are the facts.   Doesn't make trump a good person, but none the less.  Time to stop your hypocrisy,   Cmon, you can do it.   The Libs in govt and media are finally admitting their collusion was wrong.  You can too.   
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 9,523
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    Monica blew, Hillary knew.  Bill raped, Hillary attacked the victims.    This all could have stopped 20 years ago had Hillary been brave enough.  She's no better than Joe Paterno.  She had all the power in the world to stop the passing along. How many victims could have been prevented?   It's about time the clintons are being called out for what they are.   Trump is nothing compared to what Bill did.  Sorry, those are the facts.   Doesn't make trump a good person, but none the less.  Time to stop your hypocrisy,   Cmon, you can do it.   The Libs in govt and media are finally admitting their collusion was wrong.  You can too.   
    Maybe if this shit had stopped and the offenders tossed in jail and never heard from again, we wouldn’t have had the Clintons? You know, Moral Majority, the Jimmies, Jim Swaggart and Jim Bakker. The family values, moral majority Republican hypocrisy party should cease and desist their enabling and justification via the sweet baby Jesus. Don’t even get me going on the Catholic Church. It’s all wrong but one party, and religion, is more hypocritical than the other. Wanna talk about the threat gays pose? And their shit goes back 30 or 40 years. Hell Bush was grabbing Bush before Clinton had a gleam in his eyes. Family values, character matters, Rushbo, Newt the Beaut, Hastert, O’Reilly, et al. All wrong but only one party mocks and doesn’t own it, hello Roy. Where’s Randy Paul? Diddling the neighbor’s wife?
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  • Monica blew, Hillary knew.  Bill raped, Hillary attacked the victims.    This all could have stopped 20 years ago had Hillary been brave enough.  She's no better than Joe Paterno.  She had all the power in the world to stop the passing along. How many victims could have been prevented?   It's about time the clintons are being called out for what they are.   Trump is nothing compared to what Bill did.  Sorry, those are the facts.   Doesn't make trump a good person, but none the less.  Time to stop your hypocrisy,   Cmon, you can do it.   The Libs in govt and media are finally admitting their collusion was wrong.  You can too.   
    Maybe if this shit had stopped and the offenders tossed in jail and never heard from again, we wouldn’t have had the Clintons? You know, Moral Majority, the Jimmies, Jim Swaggart and Jim Bakker. The family values, moral majority Republican hypocrisy party should cease and desist their enabling and justification via the sweet baby Jesus. Don’t even get me going on the Catholic Church. It’s all wrong but one party, and religion, is more hypocritical than the other. Wanna talk about the threat gays pose? And their shit goes back 30 or 40 years. Hell Bush was grabbing Bush before Clinton had a gleam in his eyes. Family values, character matters, Rushbo, Newt the Beaut, Hastert, O’Reilly, et al. All wrong but only one party mocks and doesn’t own it, hello Roy. Where’s Randy Paul? Diddling the neighbor’s wife?
    I agree. There are many road signs on the path that could have altered the course.  To me, this was just the most egregious, obvious and proven.   There are rationalizations of his and her behavior.  The platform they had was higher than anyone has ever had.   That's the point here.  But, yes, numerous examples that hopefully we will stop ignoring including admitting where we missed an opportunity.  Funny folks like Gloria Steinem rationalized it away at the time.  Very Machiavellian in the worst kind of way.  

    I see Hillary as a Greek fable.   She did everything to reach her ultimate goal of being president with the hubris that regardless of the collateral damage, she would be the greater good.  Well, how did that work out?   Like all Greek fables, theres a moral.   Do the right thing when you have the chance to, and the greater good will be served.  Think of where Hillary could have stood in history if she stood up for victims when the opportunity presented it?  Who knows?  Maybe she'd even be president now.  How ironic.   
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Monica blew, Hillary knew.  Bill raped, Hillary attacked the victims.    This all could have stopped 20 years ago had Hillary been brave enough.  She's no better than Joe Paterno.  She had all the power in the world to stop the passing along. How many victims could have been prevented?   It's about time the clintons are being called out for what they are.   Trump is nothing compared to what Bill did.  Sorry, those are the facts.   Doesn't make trump a good person, but none the less.  Time to stop your hypocrisy,   Cmon, you can do it.   The Libs in govt and media are finally admitting their collusion was wrong.  You can too.   
    Maybe if this shit had stopped and the offenders tossed in jail and never heard from again, we wouldn’t have had the Clintons? You know, Moral Majority, the Jimmies, Jim Swaggart and Jim Bakker. The family values, moral majority Republican hypocrisy party should cease and desist their enabling and justification via the sweet baby Jesus. Don’t even get me going on the Catholic Church. It’s all wrong but one party, and religion, is more hypocritical than the other. Wanna talk about the threat gays pose? And their shit goes back 30 or 40 years. Hell Bush was grabbing Bush before Clinton had a gleam in his eyes. Family values, character matters, Rushbo, Newt the Beaut, Hastert, O’Reilly, et al. All wrong but only one party mocks and doesn’t own it, hello Roy. Where’s Randy Paul? Diddling the neighbor’s wife?
    I agree. There are many road signs on the path that could have altered the course.  To me, this was just the most egregious, obvious and proven.   There are rationalizations of his and her behavior.  The platform they had was higher than anyone has ever had.   That's the point here.  But, yes, numerous examples that hopefully we will stop ignoring including admitting where we missed an opportunity.  Funny folks like Gloria Steinem rationalized it away at the time.  Very Machiavellian in the worst kind of way.  

    I see Hillary as a Greek fable.   She did everything to reach her ultimate goal of being president with the hubris that regardless of the collateral damage, she would be the greater good.  Well, how did that work out?   Like all Greek fables, theres a moral.   Do the right thing when you have the chance to, and the greater good will be served.  Think of where Hillary could have stood in history if she stood up for victims when the opportunity presented it?  Who knows?  Maybe she'd even be president now.  How ironic.   
    Did you vote Trump? Are you asking that he step down? I’m curious. Fables? Maybe there’ll be a children’s book you can read to your grand kids?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 17,054
    Monica blew, Hillary knew.  Bill raped, Hillary attacked the victims.    This all could have stopped 20 years ago had Hillary been brave enough.  She's no better than Joe Paterno.  She had all the power in the world to stop the passing along. How many victims could have been prevented?   It's about time the clintons are being called out for what they are.   Trump is nothing compared to what Bill did.  Sorry, those are the facts.   Doesn't make trump a good person, but none the less.  Time to stop your hypocrisy,   Cmon, you can do it.   The Libs in govt and media are finally admitting their collusion was wrong.  You can too.   
    lol Orange bafoon not as bad as Bill your a joke your boy Orange bafoon who you voted for stated that he would grab & kiss women without fear of any repercussions because of his status as a star so now you have proof that the bafoon is not guilty of such acts , we now for sure Monica consented to the acts she performed yes HRC should of thrown Bill to the curve you believe that would of stopped what's happening now in D.C. lol another good joke from you ..
    the fact is we have a president who is a sexual predator and a pathological liar oh and yes a racist too ...
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,925
    Monica blew, Hillary knew.  Bill raped, Hillary attacked the victims.    This all could have stopped 20 years ago had Hillary been brave enough.  She's no better than Joe Paterno.  She had all the power in the world to stop the passing along. How many victims could have been prevented?   It's about time the clintons are being called out for what they are.   Trump is nothing compared to what Bill did.  Sorry, those are the facts.   Doesn't make trump a good person, but none the less.  Time to stop your hypocrisy,   Cmon, you can do it.   The Libs in govt and media are finally admitting their collusion was wrong.  You can too.   
    Maybe if this shit had stopped and the offenders tossed in jail and never heard from again, we wouldn’t have had the Clintons? You know, Moral Majority, the Jimmies, Jim Swaggart and Jim Bakker. The family values, moral majority Republican hypocrisy party should cease and desist their enabling and justification via the sweet baby Jesus. Don’t even get me going on the Catholic Church. It’s all wrong but one party, and religion, is more hypocritical than the other. Wanna talk about the threat gays pose? And their shit goes back 30 or 40 years. Hell Bush was grabbing Bush before Clinton had a gleam in his eyes. Family values, character matters, Rushbo, Newt the Beaut, Hastert, O’Reilly, et al. All wrong but only one party mocks and doesn’t own it, hello Roy. Where’s Randy Paul? Diddling the neighbor’s wife?
    I agree. There are many road signs on the path that could have altered the course.  To me, this was just the most egregious, obvious and proven.   There are rationalizations of his and her behavior.  The platform they had was higher than anyone has ever had.   That's the point here.  But, yes, numerous examples that hopefully we will stop ignoring including admitting where we missed an opportunity.  Funny folks like Gloria Steinem rationalized it away at the time.  Very Machiavellian in the worst kind of way.  

    I see Hillary as a Greek fable.   She did everything to reach her ultimate goal of being president with the hubris that regardless of the collateral damage, she would be the greater good.  Well, how did that work out?   Like all Greek fables, theres a moral.   Do the right thing when you have the chance to, and the greater good will be served.  Think of where Hillary could have stood in history if she stood up for victims when the opportunity presented it?  Who knows?  Maybe she'd even be president now.  How ironic.   
    THEY HAVE NO POWER. THEY ARE NOT ACTIVE POLITICIANS. THESE DISCUSSIONS OCCURRED YEARS AGO. 

    What’s ironic is that the public holds power in the entertainment arena, so when celebrities act like shmucks, they’re swiftly removed from their power positions and people see that as an acceptable punishment fitting the crime. Because the public holds essentially no power besides from election days, and because checks and balances are failing due to extreme partisanship, rapists and thieves can exist in any level of government so long as they are in the same party as the house majority.

    Would you care to discuss a thing that matters? With ramifications TODAY and not YESTERYEAR? Good fucking god, this world is going to shit. 

    Like a fable, if Hilary Clinton goes to jail (or a new ending is designed for a fable), nothing changes. At least you’ll have your vengeful mind satisfied though.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,991
    Monica blew, Hillary knew.  Bill raped, Hillary attacked the victims.    This all could have stopped 20 years ago had Hillary been brave enough.  She's no better than Joe Paterno.  She had all the power in the world to stop the passing along. How many victims could have been prevented?   It's about time the clintons are being called out for what they are.   Trump is nothing compared to what Bill did.  Sorry, those are the facts.   Doesn't make trump a good person, but none the less.  Time to stop your hypocrisy,   Cmon, you can do it.   The Libs in govt and media are finally admitting their collusion was wrong.  You can too.   
    Maybe if this shit had stopped and the offenders tossed in jail and never heard from again, we wouldn’t have had the Clintons? You know, Moral Majority, the Jimmies, Jim Swaggart and Jim Bakker. The family values, moral majority Republican hypocrisy party should cease and desist their enabling and justification via the sweet baby Jesus. Don’t even get me going on the Catholic Church. It’s all wrong but one party, and religion, is more hypocritical than the other. Wanna talk about the threat gays pose? And their shit goes back 30 or 40 years. Hell Bush was grabbing Bush before Clinton had a gleam in his eyes. Family values, character matters, Rushbo, Newt the Beaut, Hastert, O’Reilly, et al. All wrong but only one party mocks and doesn’t own it, hello Roy. Where’s Randy Paul? Diddling the neighbor’s wife?
    I agree. There are many road signs on the path that could have altered the course.  To me, this was just the most egregious, obvious and proven.   There are rationalizations of his and her behavior.  The platform they had was higher than anyone has ever had.   That's the point here.  But, yes, numerous examples that hopefully we will stop ignoring including admitting where we missed an opportunity.  Funny folks like Gloria Steinem rationalized it away at the time.  Very Machiavellian in the worst kind of way.  

    I see Hillary as a Greek fable.   She did everything to reach her ultimate goal of being president with the hubris that regardless of the collateral damage, she would be the greater good.  Well, how did that work out?   Like all Greek fables, theres a moral.   Do the right thing when you have the chance to, and the greater good will be served.  Think of where Hillary could have stood in history if she stood up for victims when the opportunity presented it?  Who knows?  Maybe she'd even be president now.  How ironic.   
    If Bill being a rapist is a fact, isn’t there even more evidence that trump is a rapist?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,881
    How many millions of dollars has the Clinton Foundation accepted from countries that execute gays and women for speaking to a man outside of her family?

    Pssssh, "equal rights".
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,108
    unsung said:
    How many millions of dollars has the Clinton Foundation accepted from countries that execute gays and women for speaking to a man outside of her family?

    Pssssh, "equal rights".

    Let's parse this out:

    Clinton Foundation took money from homophobes and misogynists.

    And spent it improving global health, increasing opportunity for girls and women, reducing childhood obesity and preventable diseases, creating economic opportunity and growth, or helping communities address the effects of climate change.

    How is that a bad thing?
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    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    How many millions of dollars has the Clinton Foundation accepted from countries that execute gays and women for speaking to a man outside of her family?

    Pssssh, "equal rights".

    Let's parse this out:

    Clinton Foundation took money from homophobes and misogynists.

    And spent it improving global health, increasing opportunity for girls and women, reducing childhood obesity and preventable diseases, creating economic opportunity and growth, or helping communities address the effects of climate change.

    How is that a bad thing?
    I'm personally in favour of it. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 37,545
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    How many millions of dollars has the Clinton Foundation accepted from countries that execute gays and women for speaking to a man outside of her family?

    Pssssh, "equal rights".

    Let's parse this out:

    Clinton Foundation took money from homophobes and misogynists.

    And spent it improving global health, increasing opportunity for girls and women, reducing childhood obesity and preventable diseases, creating economic opportunity and growth, or helping communities address the effects of climate change.

    How is that a bad thing?
    I'm personally in favour of it. 
    Me too. Take money from the guilty parties and use it to help the victims. Sounds good to me.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,991
    JimmyV said:
    What a lot of articles and discussions on “the Clintons” leave out is that with different gender roles and expectations, Hillary could’ve continued her career after divorcing Bill. Maybe even become president after having multiple kids with multiple ex husbands. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 4,017
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    How many millions of dollars has the Clinton Foundation accepted from countries that execute gays and women for speaking to a man outside of her family?

    Pssssh, "equal rights".

    Let's parse this out:

    Clinton Foundation took money from homophobes and misogynists.

    And spent it improving global health, increasing opportunity for girls and women, reducing childhood obesity and preventable diseases, creating economic opportunity and growth, or helping communities address the effects of climate change.

    How is that a bad thing?
    But but but it's THE CLINTONS!!!!
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,084
    JimmyV said:
    What a lot of articles and discussions on “the Clintons” leave out is that with different gender roles and expectations, Hillary could’ve continued her career after divorcing Bill. Maybe even become president after having multiple kids with multiple ex husbands. 
    I've never cared that she supported Bill or that she stayed married to Bill. I don't think divorcing him would have hurt her political career at all. It might have delayed it, meaning I don't think she could have run for Senate in NY in 2000. But had she gone away for a few years and then run in 2002 or 2004 I don't think it would have been a problem at all. Not to Democratic voters in blue states, at least.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 37,545
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    What a lot of articles and discussions on “the Clintons” leave out is that with different gender roles and expectations, Hillary could’ve continued her career after divorcing Bill. Maybe even become president after having multiple kids with multiple ex husbands. 
    I've never cared that she supported Bill or that she stayed married to Bill. I don't think divorcing him would have hurt her political career at all. It might have delayed it, meaning I don't think she could have run for Senate in NY in 2000. But had she gone away for a few years and then run in 2002 or 2004 I don't think it would have been a problem at all. Not to Democratic voters in blue states, at least.
    Agreed. But there is no way in hell she would have gotten as far as she did if she had multiple kids with multiple ex-husbands.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,084
    PJ_Soul said:
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    What a lot of articles and discussions on “the Clintons” leave out is that with different gender roles and expectations, Hillary could’ve continued her career after divorcing Bill. Maybe even become president after having multiple kids with multiple ex husbands. 
    I've never cared that she supported Bill or that she stayed married to Bill. I don't think divorcing him would have hurt her political career at all. It might have delayed it, meaning I don't think she could have run for Senate in NY in 2000. But had she gone away for a few years and then run in 2002 or 2004 I don't think it would have been a problem at all. Not to Democratic voters in blue states, at least.
    Agreed. But there is no way in hell she would have gotten as far as she did if she had multiple kids with multiple ex-husbands.
    True.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,991
    edited November 17
    PJ_Soul said:
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    What a lot of articles and discussions on “the Clintons” leave out is that with different gender roles and expectations, Hillary could’ve continued her career after divorcing Bill. Maybe even become president after having multiple kids with multiple ex husbands. 
    I've never cared that she supported Bill or that she stayed married to Bill. I don't think divorcing him would have hurt her political career at all. It might have delayed it, meaning I don't think she could have run for Senate in NY in 2000. But had she gone away for a few years and then run in 2002 or 2004 I don't think it would have been a problem at all. Not to Democratic voters in blue states, at least.
    Agreed. But there is no way in hell she would have gotten as far as she did if she had multiple kids with multiple ex-husbands.
    I guess there’s no way to prove she would’ve survived politically, but I remember multiple conversations from about 20 years ago where that was the reason given as to why she stayed with Bill. 
  • Will we ever move on from the Clintons? Or will they be trotted out and beaten like dead horses for eternity? 2040 presidential debates, Republican candidate turns to his democrat opponent and says, “did you know of and support Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s coverup of the Benghazi investigation and her pay to play Uranium One deal?” Democrat candidate’s response, “I hadn’t been born yet.”
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,084
    edited November 17
    PJ_Soul said:
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    What a lot of articles and discussions on “the Clintons” leave out is that with different gender roles and expectations, Hillary could’ve continued her career after divorcing Bill. Maybe even become president after having multiple kids with multiple ex husbands. 
    I've never cared that she supported Bill or that she stayed married to Bill. I don't think divorcing him would have hurt her political career at all. It might have delayed it, meaning I don't think she could have run for Senate in NY in 2000. But had she gone away for a few years and then run in 2002 or 2004 I don't think it would have been a problem at all. Not to Democratic voters in blue states, at least.
    Agreed. But there is no way in hell she would have gotten as far as she did if she had multiple kids with multiple ex-husbands.
    I guess there’s no way to prove she would’ve survived politically, but I remember multiple conversations from about 20 years ago where that was the reason given as to why she stayed with Bill. 
    This is actually an interesting "What If?" Imagine she does divorce Bill, and then instead of moving to New York and running for Senate in 2000 she moves back to Illinois (where she was born) and runs in 2004. Does the power of her name prevent Illinois State Senator Barack Obama from entering the Democratic primary? How different might history be today?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,991
    Will we ever move on from the Clintons? Or will they be trotted out and beaten like dead horses for eternity? 2040 presidential debates, Republican candidate turns to his democrat opponent and says, “did you know of and support Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s coverup of the Benghazi investigation and her pay to play Uranium One deal?” Democrat candidate’s response, “I hadn’t been born yet.”
    I think we’ll hear about them for quite a long time. I’ve heard more references to Ted Kennedy being a schmuck in the last year than the previous 10. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,084
    Will we ever move on from the Clintons? Or will they be trotted out and beaten like dead horses for eternity? 2040 presidential debates, Republican candidate turns to his democrat opponent and says, “did you know of and support Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s coverup of the Benghazi investigation and her pay to play Uranium One deal?” Democrat candidate’s response, “I hadn’t been born yet.”
    I think we’ll hear about them for quite a long time. I’ve heard more references to Ted Kennedy being a schmuck in the last year than the previous 10. 
    Once we have a 2020 nominee not named Clinton we will hear about them less.
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