ESPN 30 for 30 Celtics/Lakers Rivalry

So, this is a GREAT documentary.  I remember from 84 to 89 very vividly.  Learned a lot from watching this too.

But why, why in the hell does Ice Cube narrate and why does he have to act "tuff" while narrating?  Mr Cube, you've fooled people for years into thinking that you were tough, you've been paid and we all know that you're not...

The 80's with the Lakers and Celts brought back Basketball to the masses.  I have had the pleasure of never watching a tape delayed game because of this.

Imagine watching something that already happened today?

Thoughts?

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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 7,858
    So, this is a GREAT documentary.  I remember from 84 to 89 very vividly.  Learned a lot from watching this too.

    But why, why in the hell does Ice Cube narrate and why does he have to act "tuff" while narrating?  Mr Cube, you've fooled people for years into thinking that you were tough, you've been paid and we all know that you're not...

    The 80's with the Lakers and Celts brought back Basketball to the masses.  I have had the pleasure of never watching a tape delayed game because of this.

    Imagine watching something that already happened today?

    Thoughts?
    i've only seen about the last 20 minutes of the 1st episode but I found it annoying that they tried to make it a black-white thing. where whites cheered for the Celtics and blacks for the Lakers.  That is not a memory I have of those two teams.  And as a Sixers fan I wanted the Lakers to beat the Celtics.
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 8,313
    Can't wait to see this.  I don't have cable so I'll be waiting patiently for it to show up on Netflix.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 7,994
    pjhawks said:
    So, this is a GREAT documentary.  I remember from 84 to 89 very vividly.  Learned a lot from watching this too.

    But why, why in the hell does Ice Cube narrate and why does he have to act "tuff" while narrating?  Mr Cube, you've fooled people for years into thinking that you were tough, you've been paid and we all know that you're not...

    The 80's with the Lakers and Celts brought back Basketball to the masses.  I have had the pleasure of never watching a tape delayed game because of this.

    Imagine watching something that already happened today?

    Thoughts?
    i've only seen about the last 20 minutes of the 1st episode but I found it annoying that they tried to make it a black-white thing. where whites cheered for the Celtics and blacks for the Lakers.  That is not a memory I have of those two teams.  And as a Sixers fan I wanted the Lakers to beat the Celtics.
    You must have lived in happytown USA.  I unfortunately remember it being a black/white thing.  

    I LOVED Magic and the Lakers since I moved to cali for a few years so I rooted for them.  Worthy had this cool shot where he would pretend to shoot and palm the ball like a pump fake then drive baseline.  Anybody remember that move?
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 7,994
    Can't wait to see this.  I don't have cable so I'll be waiting patiently for it to show up on Netflix.
    I'm sure it's on youtube or espn site?
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 8,313
    Can't wait to see this.  I don't have cable so I'll be waiting patiently for it to show up on Netflix.
    I'm sure it's on youtube or espn site?
    If it's on Youtube, I can't find it.  And I can never watch anything on ESPN unless I login with my cable subscription.  Kinda defeats the purpose - if I had a cable subscription, I wouldn't be trying to watch on the app.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 7,858
    pjhawks said:
    So, this is a GREAT documentary.  I remember from 84 to 89 very vividly.  Learned a lot from watching this too.

    But why, why in the hell does Ice Cube narrate and why does he have to act "tuff" while narrating?  Mr Cube, you've fooled people for years into thinking that you were tough, you've been paid and we all know that you're not...

    The 80's with the Lakers and Celts brought back Basketball to the masses.  I have had the pleasure of never watching a tape delayed game because of this.

    Imagine watching something that already happened today?

    Thoughts?
    i've only seen about the last 20 minutes of the 1st episode but I found it annoying that they tried to make it a black-white thing. where whites cheered for the Celtics and blacks for the Lakers.  That is not a memory I have of those two teams.  And as a Sixers fan I wanted the Lakers to beat the Celtics.
    You must have lived in happytown USA.  I unfortunately remember it being a black/white thing.  

    I LOVED Magic and the Lakers since I moved to cali for a few years so I rooted for them.  Worthy had this cool shot where he would pretend to shoot and palm the ball like a pump fake then drive baseline.  Anybody remember that move?
    well I was in high school at the time so i guess i didn't pay much attention to that. plus being in Philly we just naturally hated the Celtics. 

    and yes I remember that Worthy move.  can still picture him doing it going baseline and dunking.  Showtime Lakers were a lot of fun to watch.
     


  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero GalaxyPosts: 17,218
    pjhawks said:
    So, this is a GREAT documentary.  I remember from 84 to 89 very vividly.  Learned a lot from watching this too.

    But why, why in the hell does Ice Cube narrate and why does he have to act "tuff" while narrating?  Mr Cube, you've fooled people for years into thinking that you were tough, you've been paid and we all know that you're not...

    The 80's with the Lakers and Celts brought back Basketball to the masses.  I have had the pleasure of never watching a tape delayed game because of this.

    Imagine watching something that already happened today?

    Thoughts?
    i've only seen about the last 20 minutes of the 1st episode but I found it annoying that they tried to make it a black-white thing. where whites cheered for the Celtics and blacks for the Lakers.  That is not a memory I have of those two teams.  And as a Sixers fan I wanted the Lakers to beat the Celtics.
    You must have lived in happytown USA.  I unfortunately remember it being a black/white thing.  

    I LOVED Magic and the Lakers since I moved to cali for a few years so I rooted for them.  Worthy had this cool shot where he would pretend to shoot and palm the ball like a pump fake then drive baseline.  Anybody remember that move?
    George McGuiness of the Indiana Pacers did that move much better and before Worthy ever tried such a move. It was unfortunate the death of Len Bias in 86' or else the Celtics would've continued their power teams throughout the rest of the 80's.

    Peace
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 25,696
    i caught it last night, very interesting/cool.  I never thought of it as being a black/white thing at first but i can see why people thought of it now.  I didn't really care for Ice Cube or Donnie Wahlberg as the narrators, that was kinda annoying.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero GalaxyPosts: 17,218
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    i caught it last night, very interesting/cool.  I never thought of it as being a black/white thing at first but i can see why people thought of it now.  I didn't really care for Ice Cube or Donnie Wahlberg as the narrators, that was kinda annoying.
    I never thought of it as a black/white thing either, I was just a Celtics fan rooting for the team from Beantown. I did think of it at the time that it was a Magic vs Bird thing though between two supreme players playing in their prime. I'm watching it now and I get emotional watching some the highlights from the Gahden. A place I saw so many games as a youth of the Celtics Big Red, Jo Jo White etc to the Bruins Orr, Cheevers and company brings out all emotions.

    Peace
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    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • dankinddankind Everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 8,832
    Beat Boston!
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 2,762
    edited June 18
    Amazing documentary but go Sixers.  Andrew F'ing Toney.  The Boston Strangler!!!
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 25,696
    g under p said:
    i caught it last night, very interesting/cool.  I never thought of it as being a black/white thing at first but i can see why people thought of it now.  I didn't really care for Ice Cube or Donnie Wahlberg as the narrators, that was kinda annoying.
    I never thought of it as a black/white thing either, I was just a Celtics fan rooting for the team from Beantown. I did think of it at the time that it was a Magic vs Bird thing though between two supreme players playing in their prime. I'm watching it now and I get emotional watching some the highlights from the Gahden. A place I saw so many games as a youth of the Celtics Big Red, Jo Jo White etc to the Bruins Orr, Cheevers and company brings out all emotions.

    Peace
    yeah I only around 10 years old in the mid 80's and wasn't a huge basketball fan.  I was more into baseball and football.  Almost forgot that The Sixers were part of that rivalry for a few years. 
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  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SCPosts: 3,934
    Looking forward to watching this. I was a small child during the thick of the Bird vs Magic years (born in 83). So, I don't remember a lot about it, but I love basketball and basketball history.

    The black/white thing makes me think of the Chuck Klosterman essay about this rivalry in Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs (at least I think it was in that one). He basically stated the rivalry was a metaphor for just about every dichotomy you can think of.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 27,386
    Looking forward to watching this. I was a small child during the thick of the Bird vs Magic years (born in 83). So, I don't remember a lot about it, but I love basketball and basketball history.

    The black/white thing makes me think of the Chuck Klosterman essay about this rivalry in Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs (at least I think it was in that one). He basically stated the rivalry was a metaphor for just about every dichotomy you can think of.


    I've been meaning to read that book. Thanks for reminding me.


    I've only seen about 10 minutes of this but have it on dvr. Gonna watch at some point this week.

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  • THE LOOKTHE LOOK Posts: 322
    Great documentary! I didn't realize that "race" played such a major role, as the documentary suggests! All I saw growing up watching these games, was just one of the greatest rivalries in NBA history.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler To your left.Posts: 27,386
    I'm surprised to see so many people claim to not remember race playing even a little factor in that rivalry. I was very young, but it was pretty obvious to me that there was one team primarily black and one team primarily white. I hate the Celtics so I rooted for the Lakers anyway. Race doesn't matter to me. But to pretend it wasn't an issue for other people is kind of foolish. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 7,994
    I'm surprised to see so many people claim to not remember race playing even a little factor in that rivalry. I was very young, but it was pretty obvious to me that there was one team primarily black and one team primarily white. I hate the Celtics so I rooted for the Lakers anyway. Race doesn't matter to me. But to pretend it wasn't an issue for other people is kind of foolish. 
    Those that didn't see race in it are lucky.  Good for them.  The reason I remember race being a part of it was from comments from the adults.  
    I was watching a basketball game and then I hear snarky comments.  It changed it for me.
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