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Poll--The Weakest Link: Lightning Bolt Round 1

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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,946
    Let The Records Play
    MedozK said:
    MedozK said:
    Sorry if this was already answered, but what happens after this album is done?
    We go to championship round between the 10 winner songs?
    Or there´s room for Lost Dogs? (which I assume would take two polls, one for each disc?)
    I have a couple more poll ideas in mind after this one.
    Best viewaskew films?
    Haha, we all know that's Mallrats.
    Clerks and Mallrats in the finals. 
    My bet would be Clerks and Chasing Amy in the finals. :)


    And btw - SIRENS IS GREAT
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    My Father's Son
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    KC138045KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,715
    Sirens
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    Columbus-2000
    Columbus-2003
    Cincinnati-2006
    Columbus-2010
    Wrigley-2013
    Cincinnati-2014
    Lexington-2016
    Wrigley 1 & 2-2018
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    My Father's Son
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    My Father's Son
    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    no bold at all..sounds terrible live..easy to understand
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    My Father's Son
    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    no bold at all..sounds terrible live..easy to understand
    I agree with you, unless maybe if you count Bugs.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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    KC138045KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,715
    Sirens
    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    I've never heard it live so all I can go by is the album version.  From my shows I would say evacuation, unemployable, and parachutes have been the least enjoyable songs I've heard live.
    Columbus-2000
    Columbus-2003
    Cincinnati-2006
    Columbus-2010
    Wrigley-2013
    Cincinnati-2014
    Lexington-2016
    Wrigley 1 & 2-2018
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    My Father's Son
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    no bold at all..sounds terrible live..easy to understand
    I agree with you, unless maybe if you count Bugs.
    bugs on guitar is one of the most cool things i saw live
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,887
    My Father's Son
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    no bold at all..sounds terrible live..easy to understand
    I agree with you, unless maybe if you count Bugs.
    bugs on guitar is one of the most cool things i saw live
    Bugs on guitar is better than Bugs on accordion.

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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
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    KC138045KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,715
    edited May 2017
    Sirens
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piCr1LG65nA

    You're all fucking crazy
    Columbus-2000
    Columbus-2003
    Cincinnati-2006
    Columbus-2010
    Wrigley-2013
    Cincinnati-2014
    Lexington-2016
    Wrigley 1 & 2-2018
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,819
    Sleeping By Myself
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    worst song, or worst performance of a song? do you like the album version but not the live version is what I'm getting at?
    Flight Risk out NOW!

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    northerndragonnortherndragon somewhere, nowhere, anywhere Posts: 9,734
    Sirens
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    Have you heard Sirens?
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
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    northerndragonnortherndragon somewhere, nowhere, anywhere Posts: 9,734
    Sirens

    MedozK said:
    MedozK said:
    Sorry if this was already answered, but what happens after this album is done?
    We go to championship round between the 10 winner songs?
    Or there´s room for Lost Dogs? (which I assume would take two polls, one for each disc?)
    I have a couple more poll ideas in mind after this one.
    Best viewaskew films?
    Haha, we all know that's Mallrats.
    Clerks and Mallrats in the finals. 
    My bet would be Clerks and Chasing Amy in the finals. :)


    And btw - SIRENS IS GREAT
    Um, NOPE!
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
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    northerndragonnortherndragon somewhere, nowhere, anywhere Posts: 9,734
    Sirens

    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    Have you heard Sirens?
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    My Father's Son
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    worst song, or worst performance of a song? do you like the album version but not the live version is what I'm getting at?
    yes,,worst live..i like the studio version,,but live?omg..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    My Father's Son

    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    Have you heard Sirens?
    Yep, 7 or 8 times I think.
    The band's timing is always good, Ed's voice isn't strained, the melody is clear and enjoyable.
    MFS I have seen 2 or 3 times, the timing was off at times through each performance, it's demanding on Ed's voice and causes strain, and the melody is muddy live.

    Plus Sirens has Mike on the 12 string which sounds great, and it ends with getting to harmonize with Eddie friggin Vedder.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,887
    My Father's Son
    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    Have you heard Sirens?
    Yep, 7 or 8 times I think.
    The band's timing is always good, Ed's voice isn't strained, the melody is clear and enjoyable.
    MFS I have seen 2 or 3 times, the timing was off at times through each performance, it's demanding on Ed's voice and causes strain, and the melody is muddy live.

    Plus Sirens has Mike on the 12 string which sounds great, and it ends with getting to harmonize with Eddie friggin Vedder.
    It's a great song.

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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    My Father's Son
    It's great in it's own right, it's only average in the context of Pearl Jam, it's certainly not as bad as some PJ fans seem to think it is.
    I can't think of a Bruce Springsteen song that's any better than Sirens, and he's massively respected, for instance.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,846
    My Father's Son
    I actually enjoyed sirens live a few times. It s the extended end that wants me to grab a pair of scissors and cut ed s mic chord. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    Sirens
    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    Have you heard Sirens?
    Yep, 7 or 8 times I think.
    The band's timing is always good, Ed's voice isn't strained, the melody is clear and enjoyable.
    MFS I have seen 2 or 3 times, the timing was off at times through each performance, it's demanding on Ed's voice and causes strain, and the melody is muddy live.

    Plus Sirens has Mike on the 12 string which sounds great, and it ends with getting to harmonize with Eddie friggin Vedder.
    Forget live!  Ed strains in the studio version of Sirens... 

    "But all things change...  I study your face..." 

    Those lines are like nails on a chalkboard.  Or glass shards on a larynx.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    Have you heard Sirens?
    Yep, 7 or 8 times I think.
    The band's timing is always good, Ed's voice isn't strained, the melody is clear and enjoyable.
    MFS I have seen 2 or 3 times, the timing was off at times through each performance, it's demanding on Ed's voice and causes strain, and the melody is muddy live.

    Plus Sirens has Mike on the 12 string which sounds great, and it ends with getting to harmonize with Eddie friggin Vedder.
    Forget live!  Ed strains in the studio version of Sirens... 

    "But all things change...  I study your face..." 

    Those lines are like nails on a chalkboard.  Or glass shards on a larynx.
    Yes, and I have heard two live versions of Sirens that were totally butchered vocally and instrumentally, the melody was totally off, so I disagree that the band's timing is always good and that Ed's voice isn't strained when they do it live. However, that was earlier in their LB tour, so they've working it out for the most part... but not Eddie's voice. I agree that his voice sounds very strained for parts of the album version. 
    I don't think I'll ever understand wtf the band was thinking with Sirens. It's the most confused song PJ has ever produced.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,231
    My Father's Son
    PJ_Soul said:
    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:
    KC138045 said:
    KC138045 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is getting too many votes early
    Until it gets voted off its not getting enough. 
    It really should've gotten EVERY vote this round and be the ONLY song eliminated.
    100% agree!


    My Fathers Son has more votes than Sirens.  WTF People!!!!
    My Fathers Son is the worst live song ever this band played..
    That's a very bold statement.
    It is a bold statement, but I can't think of a song which is worse.  It's definitely among the top 5 worst live in their catalogue.
    Have you heard Sirens?
    Yep, 7 or 8 times I think.
    The band's timing is always good, Ed's voice isn't strained, the melody is clear and enjoyable.
    MFS I have seen 2 or 3 times, the timing was off at times through each performance, it's demanding on Ed's voice and causes strain, and the melody is muddy live.

    Plus Sirens has Mike on the 12 string which sounds great, and it ends with getting to harmonize with Eddie friggin Vedder.
    Forget live!  Ed strains in the studio version of Sirens... 

    "But all things change...  I study your face..." 

    Those lines are like nails on a chalkboard.  Or glass shards on a larynx.
    Yes, and I have heard two live versions of Sirens that were totally butchered vocally and instrumentally, the melody was totally off, so I disagree that the band's timing is always good and that Ed's voice isn't strained when they do it live. However, that was earlier in their LB tour, so they've working it out for the most part... but not Eddie's voice. I agree that his voice sounds very strained for parts of the album version. 
    I don't think I'll ever understand wtf the band was thinking with Sirens. It's the most confused song PJ has ever produced.
    The beginning reminds of of a country song and it has that kind of feel to it for the most part. I liked it at first, but got tired of it after awhile. I think they can make those songs work in studio, but live the strained sections are hit or miss. Any song at the top of Eddie's vocal range is pretty strained these days. He can't reach that upper octave he could in the past.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    My Father's Son
    You guys are right, there are some tough moments in Sirens live, but not so many as MFS!  
    I was there for the first live performance of both songs!  MFS was a ton of fun the first time live because the old lady had hooked into the words on the chorus (which is much more enjoyable than the verse) when it was streaming right before the tour kicked off, and we were the only people in our section singing along.
    Initially I liked it better than Sirens, which I felt had like 3 hooks and no resolution to the friction between them, but it has grown on me while MFS has steadily declined since that first performance.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Sleeping By Myself
    Sirens is a bottom tier PJ song - I remember everyone on Facebook getting their panties in bunch when I suggested that PJ refund me a portion of my ticket fee when they play it in concert.
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,493
    KC138045 said:
    MFS KICK ASS!!!!!!
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    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,189
    Sirens
    Sirens is weak

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    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

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    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    My Father's Son
    Sirens is a bottom tier PJ song - I remember everyone on Facebook getting their panties in bunch when I suggested that PJ refund me a portion of my ticket fee when they play it in concert.
    A bottom tier Pearl Jam song is better than the best song many very popular bands have. 
    I'm sure you were joking but it's a pretty rude suggestion if there's truth behind it.
    The band really likes that song.  Mike is damn proud of it and Eddie seems to want to sing it every chance he gets.

    I know this is preachy, but with the last few records I feel like the fans want the band to be who they used to be and who the fans want them to be, rather than accepting them for who they are.  

    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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    KP278376KP278376 Posts: 42
    Sirens
    I don't know why everyone is complaining about Sirens live.  It's always right in the middle of the show, making it a perfect time to grab another beer with some decent background music and not really miss anything before they bring it for the next song.  One of the more important parts of the show, really...
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    KP278376 said:
    I don't know why everyone is complaining about Sirens live.  It's always right in the middle of the show, making it a perfect time to grab another beer with some decent background music and not really miss anything before they bring it for the next song.  One of the more important parts of the show, really...
    Yeah, but what about the poor people up at the front of the pit? They just have to stand there and take it. :lol:;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    shetellsherselfshetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,775
    KC138045 said:
    I have to say I really like MFS.  It's weird, funky, outside-the-box, non-formulaic, experimental even.  It gives this album another dimension. It makes you take a double take.... "whoa...what was that?"  That's definitely a good thing to me. And the bass-line craziness is just awesome. 

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