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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,605
    mcgruff10 said:
    Really interesting article I read today On how North Korean children are taught to hate America. During summer break school children visit an anti American museum. 
    Ridiculous and pathetic.  Of course, we do the same thing only maybe a little more subtly.  

    What does the average American feel about North Koreans?  I'm thinking many  Americans, if not the majority, have a strong disliking for North Koreans.  But what do we know about them?  How many Americans know something as basic about NK as the fact that overall, NK women earn more money than men and more men stay home to raise the children than do women?  Not many, is my guess. 

    Maybe if we just knew a bit more about each other, people in different parts of the world would find more interest in each other than hate.  Maybe.
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  • brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Really interesting article I read today On how North Korean children are taught to hate America. During summer break school children visit an anti American museum. 
    Ridiculous and pathetic.  Of course, we do the same thing only maybe a little more subtly.  

    What does the average American feel about North Koreans?  I'm thinking many  Americans, if not the majority, have a strong disliking for North Koreans.  But what do we know about them?  How many Americans know something as basic about NK as the fact that overall, NK women earn more money than men and more men stay home to raise the children than do women?  Not many, is my guess. 

    Maybe if we just knew a bit more about each other, people in different parts of the world would find more interest in each other than hate.  Maybe.

    All your questions could be solved Blux if you took a trip to N. Korea.  Go there and report your findings to this thread. There is nothing stopping you from going there right?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,605
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Really interesting article I read today On how North Korean children are taught to hate America. During summer break school children visit an anti American museum. 
    Ridiculous and pathetic.  Of course, we do the same thing only maybe a little more subtly.  

    What does the average American feel about North Koreans?  I'm thinking many  Americans, if not the majority, have a strong disliking for North Koreans.  But what do we know about them?  How many Americans know something as basic about NK as the fact that overall, NK women earn more money than men and more men stay home to raise the children than do women?  Not many, is my guess. 

    Maybe if we just knew a bit more about each other, people in different parts of the world would find more interest in each other than hate.  Maybe.

    All your questions could be solved Blux if you took a trip to N. Korea.  Go there and report your findings to this thread. There is nothing stopping you from going there right?
    Yes, fear of flying!

    But Henry has been there!  What he says is very revealing.  He criticizes the government there but is sympathetic of the people and describes them as very poor and fearful of their government.



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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 2,796
    My republican friend is all gung ho for bombing N. Korea.  I try to tell him those are innocent people, babies, children, moms, dads etc.   He doesn't care.

    Just another god fearing American republican
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,670
    Smellyman said:
    My republican friend is all gung ho for bombing N. Korea.  I try to tell him those are innocent people, babies, children, moms, dads etc.   He doesn't care.

    Just another god fearing American republican
    Does he care about South Koreans? Or are all yellow people expendable?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,605
    Smellyman said:
    My republican friend is all gung ho for bombing N. Korea.  I try to tell him those are innocent people, babies, children, moms, dads etc.   He doesn't care.

    Just another god fearing American republican
    I would suggest he go live in NK for a while a get a taste of poverty and governmental repression.  Weird how people judge an entire nation of people based on the injustices of a small minority there. 
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 2,796
    He doesn't hate the people.  Just thinks it's the cost of doing business to get 'regime change'.  Gotta crack a few eggs.  Freedom bombs are coming your way.

    Heard that before.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 8,934
    You would think the art of the deal guy would be able to deal everyone out of this.  Deals. 
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,646
    edited July 7
    mcgruff10 said:
    Really interesting article I read today On how North Korean children are taught to hate America. During summer break school children visit an anti American museum. 
    And our children are brainwashed with Manifest Destiny and American Exceptionalism... among other things

    How many people have been killed by American military adventures since the end of the Korean War? A few million in southeast Asia and a few million in the middle east maybe? And from what I can tell almost nobody gives a shit... speaking of brainwashing.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 11,936
    brianlux said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Really interesting article I read today On how North Korean children are taught to hate America. During summer break school children visit an anti American museum. 
    Ridiculous and pathetic.  Of course, we do the same thing only maybe a little more subtly.  

    What does the average American feel about North Koreans?  I'm thinking many  Americans, if not the majority, have a strong disliking for North Koreans.  But what do we know about them?  How many Americans know something as basic about NK as the fact that overall, NK women earn more money than men and more men stay home to raise the children than do women?  Not many, is my guess. 

    Maybe if we just knew a bit more about each other, people in different parts of the world would find more interest in each other than hate.  Maybe.
    Here's the article Brian:
    http://www.newsweek.com/how-north-korean-children-are-taught-hate-americans-632334
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 1,688

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/31/politics/north-korea-ejection-test-submarine-activity/index.html


    Washington (CNN)The US military has detected "highly unusual and unprecedented levels" of North Korean submarine activity and evidence of an "ejection test" in the days following Pyongyang's second intercontinental ballistic missile launch this month, a defense official told CNN on Monday.



  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,670

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/31/politics/north-korea-ejection-test-submarine-activity/index.html


    Washington (CNN)The US military has detected "highly unusual and unprecedented levels" of North Korean submarine activity and evidence of an "ejection test" in the days following Pyongyang's second intercontinental ballistic missile launch this month, a defense official told CNN on Monday.



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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 8,934
    So who has been supplying this sudden surge in technology?  My money is on russia
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 2,588
    Anyone else concerned about WMD's 2.0? Maybe Kelly was brought on to testify to their existence in front of Congress. We need to occupy a country in Asia according to the Magic 8 Ball, which I think is in line to replace Sessions or Tillerson.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,246

    Americans about the perceived threat from North Korea after it was revealed yesterday that they created a miniaturized ICBM missile capable of hitting the U.S.

    "I do not believe that there is any imminent threat [from North Korea]," he said, per AP. "Americans should sleep well at night."

    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,046
    I lived in South Korea for over a year and did talk to many people who were born in North Korea and yes there is a big distrust of America there that still stems back to the original Korea war.  The Korea people i met were great people and were liberal minded people but they even had a great dislike of America for what they perceived was america not caring about the people in N. Korea. 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,246
    do you think Trump knows all the hype is over an anonymously sourced report in WAPO that nobody in our government has ever seen?
    Slow news week I guess
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 2,796
    fife said:
    I lived in South Korea for over a year and did talk to many people who were born in North Korea and yes there is a big distrust of America there that still stems back to the original Korea war.  The Korea people i met were great people and were liberal minded people but they even had a great dislike of America for what they perceived was america not caring about the people in N. Korea. 
    I have been to S. Korea several times, have many friends there and have met nobody who feels that way.

    Anecdotal is great.
  • fifefife Posts: 3,046
    Smellyman said:
    fife said:
    I lived in South Korea for over a year and did talk to many people who were born in North Korea and yes there is a big distrust of America there that still stems back to the original Korea war.  The Korea people i met were great people and were liberal minded people but they even had a great dislike of America for what they perceived was america not caring about the people in N. Korea. 
    I have been to S. Korea several times, have many friends there and have met nobody who feels that way.

    Anecdotal is great.
    I am not saying that all people there feel this way at all but looking back at my post i can see why you would think I was saying that.  should have been more clear. 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,246
    Trump: "Terminal brain cancer is not contagious"
    McCain: "I don't know what he's saying and I've long ago given up trying to interpret what he says,... That kind of rhetoric, I'm not sure how it helps."

    "I take exception to the President's comments because you gotta be able to do what you say you're gonna do," the Arizona Senator told KTAR radio Tuesday, in an appearance with his daughter Meghan. " I don't think that's a way you attack an issue and a challenge like this."

    http://time.com/4892492/donald-trump-john-mccain-north-korea-nuclear-threat/


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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,246
    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1AO011

    "but this time it's different..."

    While North Korea regularly threatens to destroy the United States and its allies, the report was unusual in its detail. 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,670
    JC29856 said:
    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1AO011

    "but this time it's different..."

    While North Korea regularly threatens to destroy the United States and its allies, the report was unusual in its detail. 

    Who says?
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 2,796
    fife said:
    Smellyman said:
    fife said:
    I lived in South Korea for over a year and did talk to many people who were born in North Korea and yes there is a big distrust of America there that still stems back to the original Korea war.  The Korea people i met were great people and were liberal minded people but they even had a great dislike of America for what they perceived was america not caring about the people in N. Korea. 
    I have been to S. Korea several times, have many friends there and have met nobody who feels that way.

    Anecdotal is great.
    I am not saying that all people there feel this way at all but looking back at my post i can see why you would think I was saying that.  should have been more clear. 
    cool
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 8,934
    I'm not sure what the answer is to North Korea... nobody has been able to figure it out for like 60 years, as well as almost 25 of their nuke program.

    I would say that a tangible and purposeful threat to launch missiles with indeterminable payloads to Guam should be reason to convene a meeting of the United Nations.  Nobody wants "Fire and Fury" either way, so maybe a coalition can be formed to get the Jong Ils out of power once and for all and free those people.  Like.... maybe Trump's threat was a good move if it was aimed more at our allies/UN?  It caused Kim Jong Un to overplay the hand, justifying the need for gloabal intervention finally? 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 20,605
    MayDay10 said:
    I'm not sure what the answer is to North Korea... nobody has been able to figure it out for like 60 years, as well as almost 25 of their nuke program.

    I would say that a tangible and purposeful threat to launch missiles with indeterminable payloads to Guam should be reason to convene a meeting of the United Nations.  Nobody wants "Fire and Fury" either way, so maybe a coalition can be formed to get the Jong Ils out of power once and for all and free those people.  Like.... maybe Trump's threat was a good move if it was aimed more at our allies/UN?  It caused Kim Jong Un to overplay the hand, justifying the need for gloabal intervention finally? 
    Here's one solution: Covertly smuggle in some great western music for the common N.K. person and download some of there's.  Explain to them that you just want to share music and culture.  We would get to hear some cool exotic sounds and they would get to hear some excellent western music.  Finding common ground in cultural appreciation would ease tension between peoples.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 2,796
    North Korea WILL NEVER attack Guam or any other country.

    Even crazy Kim knows they would be obliterated in seconds.



    wag the dog
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,698
    edited August 11
    Smellyman said:
    North Korea WILL NEVER attack Guam or any other country.

    Even crazy Kim knows they would be obliterated in seconds.



    wag the dog
    Exactly. The dude isn't suicidal and he wants to stay in power. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 36,705
    edited August 11
    Smellyman said:
    North Korea WILL NEVER attack Guam or any other country.

    Even crazy Kim knows they would be obliterated in seconds.



    wag the dog
    I tend to agree. I also have the "well, you never know - anything's possible - crazy things still happen" thoughts, but I still think the chances of the nut ever actually doing it are slim.
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