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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Yeah, we are absolutely the greatest then!
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
    yeah, but I assume we're talking about overall, not just one category. 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I think it's pretty much a proven fact that the US is not the greatest country in the world. when you look at overall population happiness, life expectancy, overall health, etc, etc, the stats don't lie. 
    Unless you consider the GDP stats.  But yeah, definitely not the happiest country in the world.
    I don’t think anyone is disputing that the US buys and sells a lot of crap. Does anyone argue that this makes it the best? 
    I think the thread title says “greatest”, which could apply to the GDP.  Our economy is pretty great.
    yeah, but I assume we're talking about overall, not just one category. 
    Oh, didn’t realize I was the only one pointing out specific things that make a country great...or not. 
    /s
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,133
    By what measure OP?
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  • Kev - Coat and KeysKev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    Seeing all the twitter stories (which may not be true) about voting machines not having power and places not having paper ballots on election day I am starting to think America may be the greatest at corruption? 
    Or at least would be better when it becomes a democracy?
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    When do the results start coming in...

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,506
    Meltdown99 said:
    When do the results start coming in...

    5pm Pacific I think?
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,189
    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,506
    edited November 2018
    pjhawks said:
    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
    Because America makes it so damned easy to live there without documentation, compared to other first world nations. Also, it's the closest 1st world nation to Mexico and central and south America.
    The rhetoric against this caravan is HORRIFIC. l actually think it's fucking sadistic, no shit. And now there are apparently 100s of gun toting Trumpsters calling themselves a militia and camping out at the fucking border. I can't even think of a way to adequately express how sickened I am about these disgusting pieces of shit rallying against the caravan the way they are.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,570
    pjhawks said:
    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
    Geography? Oceans and land mass?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,506
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjhawks said:
    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
    Geography? Oceans and land mass?
    Available jobs for undocumented workers is also obviously a big factor.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited November 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjhawks said:
    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
    Geography? Oceans and land mass?
    Available jobs for undocumented workers is also obviously a big factor.
    Absolutely, and access to social services, education, driving privileges, etc... 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,570
    If Europe were equidistant and connected by a land mass, don’t you think some would choose Europe?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    And parenthetically, can we please get that land bridge to Europe? 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,506
    oftenreading said:
    And parenthetically, can we please get that land bridge to Europe? 
    And Hawaii!
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Every country will say they are the greatest. Australians do it. Americans do it. And I am sure many others do too.
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,823
    In fact Europe has plenty of people crossing boarders in the night and walking 100s of miles with children to enter countries for a chance of a better future
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,661
    Have we agreed on the definition of "greatest" here yet?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited November 2018
    brianlux said:
    Have we agreed on the definition of "greatest" here yet?
    Not yet, still working on it.  We need to form and create committees to set the guidelines?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,661
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Have we agreed on the definition of "greatest" here yet?
    Not yet, still working on it.  We need to form and create committees to set the guidelines?
    Yes and I think you are just the right person to chair that committee... unless someone on the board has objections.

    No?

    OK, you're in!
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,918
    edited November 2018
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Every country will say they are the greatest. Australians do it. Americans do it. And I am sure many others do too.
    But if you have all the problems the US has, or giant spiders like Australia you are laughably wrong. :)
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,918
    edited November 2018
    brianlux said:
    Have we agreed on the definition of "greatest" here yet?
    Well it does not involve having the biggest army or a population dumb enough to give Donald Trump the presidency, helping ruining the world. 

    So the US is out of the running atleast. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Have we agreed on the definition of "greatest" here yet?
    Not yet, still working on it.  We need to form and create committees to set the guidelines?
    Yes and I think you are just the right person to chair that committee... unless someone on the board has objections.

    No?

    OK, you're in!
    I have to decline ... 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    brianlux said:
    Have we agreed on the definition of "greatest" here yet?
    Well it does not involve having the biggest army or a population dumb enough to give Donald Trump the presidency, helping ruining the world. 

    So the US is out of the running atleast. 
    Trump ruining the world.  Then the rest of the world is pathetic.  Also, have you noticed the damage the previous 2 presidents have caused in the Middle East and Afghanistan...
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Every country will say they are the greatest. Australians do it. Americans do it. And I am sure many others do too.
    Do they?  It seems like we talk about it a lot.  Granted I don’t spend much time in other countries but I have always viewed this chest-thumping as uniquely American.
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjhawks said:
    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
    Geography? Oceans and land mass?

    Cue:

    Doesn't matter. They could easily use bamboo reeds as snorkels and get there if those European countries were so so great. Not only that... they could just as easily build a big trampoline and jump over the crappy US to get to Canada.

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjhawks said:
    if other countries are so much better than the US i wonder why the caravan isn't walking thousands of miles to get into those countries.

    and the saddest part of Trump's and the Republicans attitude towards the caravan is not understanding how miserable a life is to walk thousands of miles to escape whatever horrible conditions they are leaving from and thinking their intentions are somehow to harm America.
    Geography? Oceans and land mass?

    Cue:

    Doesn't matter. They could easily use bamboo reeds as snorkels and get there if those European countries were so so great. Not only that... they could just as easily build a big trampoline and jump over the crappy US to get to Canada.

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    There is no point coming to Canada, from what I have read most would lose their asylum claims in Canada.  
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,823
    OnWis97 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Every country will say they are the greatest. Australians do it. Americans do it. And I am sure many others do too.
    Do they?  It seems like we talk about it a lot.  Granted I don’t spend much time in other countries but I have always viewed this chest-thumping as uniquely American.
    I know some English act that way and so do Norwegians 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    How many other countries have a holiday just for their countries birthday.  Surely Canada and the US are not the only countries.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,506
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Have we agreed on the definition of "greatest" here yet?
    Not yet, still working on it.  We need to form and create committees to set the guidelines?
    Yes and I think you are just the right person to chair that committee... unless someone on the board has objections.

    No?

    OK, you're in!
    I object.
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