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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    @Spiritual_Chaos   Zoodles!!! Zucchini olive oil, garlic , pesto and parm. 

    To me, these are Zoodles and always will be!


    I don’t think I have ever seen those before. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    @Spiritual_Chaos   Zoodles!!! Zucchini olive oil, garlic , pesto and parm. 

    To me, these are Zoodles and always will be!


    I don’t think I have ever seen those before. 
    It's entirely possible that they're only available in Canada. So sorry, wrong thread, lol.
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    @Spiritual_Chaos   Zoodles!!! Zucchini olive oil, garlic , pesto and parm. 

    To me, these are Zoodles and always will be!


    I don’t think I have ever seen those before. 
    It's entirely possible that they're only available in Canada. So sorry, wrong thread, lol.
    They look fun; unfortunately they'd kill my son (just look at that lion). 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    So, do you see a lot of SAABs in the states?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, do you see a lot of SAABs in the states?
    I feel like they were more popular in my area in the late 90s. I don’t see them as much as I used to. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    edited October 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, do you see a lot of SAABs in the states?
    I feel like they were more popular in my area in the late 90s. I don’t see them as much as I used to. 
    Maybe a Seinfeld effect. Haha.



    And obviously they don't exist anymore. Because of GM fucking them up after buying them.

    (SAAB was the big industry in my hometown. Now it's Lars Von Trier-movies)
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, do you see a lot of SAABs in the states?
    I feel like they were more popular in my area in the late 90s. I don’t see them as much as I used to. 
    Maybe a Seinfeld effect. Haha.



    And obviously they don't exist anymore. Because of GM fucking them up after buying them.

    (SAAB was the big industry in my hometown. Now it's Lars Von Trier-movies)
    They seemed like they drove for ever. My buddy had one in high school that had 200,000 miles. They went bankrupt in ‘12 or ‘13? Somewhere in that area?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, do you see a lot of SAABs in the states?
    I feel like they were more popular in my area in the late 90s. I don’t see them as much as I used to. 
    Maybe a Seinfeld effect. Haha.



    And obviously they don't exist anymore. Because of GM fucking them up after buying them.

    (SAAB was the big industry in my hometown. Now it's Lars Von Trier-movies)
    They seemed like they drove for ever. My buddy had one in high school that had 200,000 miles. They went bankrupt in ‘12 or ‘13? Somewhere in that area?
    Yeah 2012 sounds alright... I don't remember the exact year. But it was all everyone talked about in my hometown back then. Obviously it affected the town. I guess my town was like the "Fint" of Sweden in a way. I think VOLVO absorbed some of the unemployed though.

    Anyways. SAAB was pretty cool. Would have loved to see them survive long enough to make some cool electric models.

    Always cool spotting one abroad, or in a Hollywood movie.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,869
    I'm back with more"cute" views.
    I had wine from Portugal and it was very good. My friend  lives there partially and brings it back. Litre bottles also a win.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    lastexitlondon said:
    I'm back with more"cute" views.
    I had wine from Portugal and it was very good. My friend  lives there partially and brings it back. Litre bottles also a win.
    Would you buy a bottle of ABBA wine if they started selling it?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,283
    No 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    I'm back with more"cute" views.
    I had wine from Portugal and it was very good. My friend  lives there partially and brings it back. Litre bottles also a win.
    Would you buy a bottle of ABBA wine if they started selling it?
    Fuck no
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    Yea, sure. Beer. BBQ. Woot.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/17/health/life-expectancy-forecasts-study-intl/index.html


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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    I love SAAB.  A buddy of mine had an old 9000 turbo back in the high school/college days.  Pretty sure it had ~300k miles on it by the time it finally crapped out.  You can get a used one pretty cheap these days.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    edited October 2018
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I love SAAB.  A buddy of mine had an old 9000 turbo back in the high school/college days.  Pretty sure it had ~300k miles on it by the time it finally crapped out.  You can get a used one pretty cheap these days.
    Was the most popular car to steal/Drive for bank robberies in Sweden for a long time. Maybe still. Reliable. And I guess, easy to steal.

    Living in Trollhättan, every third car was a SAAB. Just going down 70-80 km to Gothenburg and it looked completely different. To bad the amount of cars per capita wasn't like in Trollhättan, than the company would have survived. 

    Fuck General Motors. And people not driving SAAB.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    edited October 2018
    lastexitlondon said:
    I'm back with more"cute" views.
    I had wine from Portugal and it was very good. My friend  lives there partially and brings it back. Litre bottles also a win.
    @lastexitlondon What's the most popular domestic beer in england?  Bass?
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,682
    edited October 2018
    Robert Fripp defended ABBA. 


    Post edited by brianlux on
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,869
    mcgruff10 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    I'm back with more"cute" views.
    I had wine from Portugal and it was very good. My friend  lives there partially and brings it back. Litre bottles also a win.
    @lastexitlondon What's the most popular domestic beer in england?  Bass?
    Here most pub drinkers here. (The Neanderthal  type)drink lager  from abroad. Guiness  is very popular . I love it.
    But we have quite a large older I would say group that drink real ale. Things like London pride. Doom bar. Newcastle brown ale. 
    But lots of local breweries in every county make wonderful ales. Quite strong . Great winter drink
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,869
    And if abba wine tasted good I would try it. Why not. I like red wine. So why not try it. I care not what the name is.
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    lastexitlondon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    I'm back with more"cute" views.
    I had wine from Portugal and it was very good. My friend  lives there partially and brings it back. Litre bottles also a win.
    @lastexitlondon What's the most popular domestic beer in england?  Bass?
    Here most pub drinkers here. (The Neanderthal  type)drink lager  from abroad. Guiness  is very popular . I love it.
    But we have quite a large older I would say group that drink real ale. Things like London pride. Doom bar. Newcastle brown ale. 
    But lots of local breweries in every county make wonderful ales. Quite strong . Great winter drink
    I stopped drinking 22 years ago. If I was able to have one drink before I died it would be a properly pulled Guinness Stout in a pint. That stuff is like manna. 
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,869
    I wish I could stop. 
    Guinness is my staple when out. 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    I'm not a fan of beer. But im into my second brooklyn lager now... 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    Why isn't America THE LAND OF THE FREE AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD number one on this list? 

    For a nation arguing to be the greatest ever, shouldn't it atleast crack the top 10? 

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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,580
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Why isn't America THE LAND OF THE FREE AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD number one on this list? 

    For a nation arguing to be the greatest ever, shouldn't it atleast crack the top 10? 

    Something-something-Bruce-Springsteen-albums



    I've thought about what the measurements would be, like health outcomes, exposure to violence, health care spending, life expectancy, infant mortality, percent living in poverty, etc. but facts don't matter much in these parts.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,086
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Why isn't America THE LAND OF THE FREE AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD number one on this list? 

    For a nation arguing to be the greatest ever, shouldn't it atleast crack the top 10? 

    Something-something-Bruce-Springsteen-albums



    I've thought about what the measurements would be, like health outcomes, exposure to violence, health care spending, life expectancy, infant mortality, percent living in poverty, etc. but facts don't matter much in these parts.
    It be interesting to see what makes this up. 
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Why isn't America THE LAND OF THE FREE AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD number one on this list? 

    For a nation arguing to be the greatest ever, shouldn't it atleast crack the top 10? 

    Something-something-Bruce-Springsteen-albums



    I've thought about what the measurements would be, like health outcomes, exposure to violence, health care spending, life expectancy, infant mortality, percent living in poverty, etc. but facts don't matter much in these parts.
    It be interesting to see what makes this up. 
    It says - scoring categories based on electoral process and pluralism, civil liberties, functioning of government, political participation, political culture.

    USA falls down the list on political participation alone - not even half of the country votes in presidential elections, nevermind mid terms, etc. 
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Why isn't America THE LAND OF THE FREE AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD number one on this list? 

    For a nation arguing to be the greatest ever, shouldn't it atleast crack the top 10? 

    Something-something-Bruce-Springsteen-albums



    I've thought about what the measurements would be, like health outcomes, exposure to violence, health care spending, life expectancy, infant mortality, percent living in poverty, etc. but facts don't matter much in these parts.
    It be interesting to see what makes this up. 
    Yeah, I tried to find out, but it looks like you need to register with The Economist to download the whitepaper. Best I could find without registering: "The index, which comprises 60 indicators across five broad categories—electoral process and pluralism, functioning of government, political participation, democratic political culture and civil liberties—concludes that less than 5% of the world’s population currently lives in a “full democracy”. "
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,933
    Bought the most american looking wine I could find. 99 SEK ($11)


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Bought the most american looking wine I could find. 99 SEK ($11)


    lol, that's awesome!   I haven't had red zinf in a long time.  Is this for date night?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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