Antifa Communists at Berkeley...again

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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 5,575
    This thread is shitty. Two fucked up groups going at it. I'm not picking sides in this one, since I hope they all end up in jail or buried. What a bunch of asshats, all of them. Antifa and nazis can both go to hell. Uncivilized barbarians and thugs.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,882
    edited April 19

    Fair enough but it seems one side is being defended, nazis, or at least not as condemned as vociferously while most posts, other than Unsung's, condemned both sides. I fully support anyone to peacefully assemble and exercise their freedom of speech but also recognize that some freedom of speech will elicit and end in violence. That's not a result I wish for or think is right but one I can understand. Are you okay with nazis sucker punching women?

    Not okay with anyone sucker punching anyone. Not okay with people throwing bottles into crowds. Not okay with people randomly pepper spraying others. I am okay with neo-nazis and antifa beating the shit out of each other. If this woman was part of antifa, like others suggested about neo-nazi participants, she should expect her violent group to be met with apposed violence. If she was part of antifa, she was not an innocent bystander and I have no sympathy for her or for him going to prison.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,930
    Just because you criticize one group doesn't mean you support any other involved.

    I am not going to apologize that some people are not smart enough to be able to comprehend that.

    On a side note what happened to this poor girl?


  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,097
    edited April 19
    People were asking that you defend your claim she was throwing bottles with m-80s so her getting punched was justified.
  • unsung said:

    Just because you criticize one group doesn't mean you support any other involved.

    I am not going to apologize that some people are not smart enough to be able to comprehend that.

    On a side note what happened to this poor girl?


    I don't know. What happened to her?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 5,575
    PJPOWER said:

    Fair enough but it seems one side is being defended, nazis, or at least not as condemned as vociferously while most posts, other than Unsung's, condemned both sides. I fully support anyone to peacefully assemble and exercise their freedom of speech but also recognize that some freedom of speech will elicit and end in violence. That's not a result I wish for or think is right but one I can understand. Are you okay with nazis sucker punching women?

    Not okay with anyone sucker punching anyone. Not okay with people throwing bottles into crowds. Not okay with people randomly pepper spraying others. I am okay with neo-nazis and antifa beating the shit out of each other. If this woman was part of antifa, like others suggested about neo-nazi participants, she should expect her violent group to be met with apposed violence. If she was part of antifa, she was not an innocent bystander and I have no sympathy for her or for him going to prison.
    Yup, I have as much sympathy for her as I had for Richard Spencer getting sucker punched. None. Antifa are shit stirrers, and provocateurs and are just as prone to violence and destruction as nazis. They deserve the same derision as the nazis get.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,097
    PJPOWER said:

    Fair enough but it seems one side is being defended, nazis, or at least not as condemned as vociferously while most posts, other than Unsung's, condemned both sides. I fully support anyone to peacefully assemble and exercise their freedom of speech but also recognize that some freedom of speech will elicit and end in violence. That's not a result I wish for or think is right but one I can understand. Are you okay with nazis sucker punching women?

    Not okay with anyone sucker punching anyone. Not okay with people throwing bottles into crowds. Not okay with people randomly pepper spraying others. I am okay with neo-nazis and antifa beating the shit out of each other. If this woman was part of antifa, like others suggested about neo-nazi participants, she should expect her violent group to be met with apposed violence. If she was part of antifa, she was not an innocent bystander and I have no sympathy for her or for him going to prison.
    Is antifa an actual organization like neo-nazis?
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 2,882

    PJPOWER said:

    Fair enough but it seems one side is being defended, nazis, or at least not as condemned as vociferously while most posts, other than Unsung's, condemned both sides. I fully support anyone to peacefully assemble and exercise their freedom of speech but also recognize that some freedom of speech will elicit and end in violence. That's not a result I wish for or think is right but one I can understand. Are you okay with nazis sucker punching women?

    Not okay with anyone sucker punching anyone. Not okay with people throwing bottles into crowds. Not okay with people randomly pepper spraying others. I am okay with neo-nazis and antifa beating the shit out of each other. If this woman was part of antifa, like others suggested about neo-nazi participants, she should expect her violent group to be met with apposed violence. If she was part of antifa, she was not an innocent bystander and I have no sympathy for her or for him going to prison.
    Is antifa an actual organization like neo-nazis?
    I would say yes at this point. The initial idea, no, but there are now organized groups based on that idea...very similar to how nazi type groups formed.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,930

    PJPOWER said:

    Fair enough but it seems one side is being defended, nazis, or at least not as condemned as vociferously while most posts, other than Unsung's, condemned both sides. I fully support anyone to peacefully assemble and exercise their freedom of speech but also recognize that some freedom of speech will elicit and end in violence. That's not a result I wish for or think is right but one I can understand. Are you okay with nazis sucker punching women?

    Not okay with anyone sucker punching anyone. Not okay with people throwing bottles into crowds. Not okay with people randomly pepper spraying others. I am okay with neo-nazis and antifa beating the shit out of each other. If this woman was part of antifa, like others suggested about neo-nazi participants, she should expect her violent group to be met with apposed violence. If she was part of antifa, she was not an innocent bystander and I have no sympathy for her or for him going to prison.
    Is antifa an actual organization like neo-nazis?
    Yes. They have regional chapters just like blm too. They work to suppress free speech through violence.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,930

    People were asking that you defend your claim she was throwing bottles with m-80s so her getting punched was justified.

    If someone stops another from assaulting a third it is generally considered a justifiable action. We can't always vet the participants ahead of time.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 9,998
    unsung said:

    Just because you criticize one group doesn't mean you support any other involved.

    I am not going to apologize that some people are not smart enough to be able to comprehend that.

    On a side note what happened to this poor girl?


    Why wouldn't you criticize both and why would you purposefully misrepresent the actions of the other? To drive your hidden agenda perhaps?
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,676
    edited April 19
    jeffbr said:

    This thread is shitty.

    Truth, although it is nice to have your suspicions confirmed every once in a while.

  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CAPosts: 7,623
    edited April 19

    To be fair... you get a Nazi badge for punching a woman in the face.

    It's in the Nazi challenge quest.

    After a Nazi gets 12 badges... they get promoted to Heil Nazi which is pretty awesome. You get a sweet Nazi hat and a Nazi t-shirt. Plus the guys in your pod all have to give you a salute before everyone settles down to do some Nazi stuff.

    Post edited by InHiding80 on
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,930

    unsung said:

    Just because you criticize one group doesn't mean you support any other involved.

    I am not going to apologize that some people are not smart enough to be able to comprehend that.

    On a side note what happened to this poor girl?


    Why wouldn't you criticize both and why would you purposefully misrepresent the actions of the other? To drive your hidden agenda perhaps?
    It is pretty simple if you consider that more than two groups are involved and you can't possibly know all of them. The thread topic was about antifa and their violence and the video was just the actions happening. I have not spoken about any other group other than antifa, your assumptions that I support anyone involved is a lack of emotional control on your part and others.

    I can't control that nor will I apologize for actions not of my own.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,097
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Just because you criticize one group doesn't mean you support any other involved.

    I am not going to apologize that some people are not smart enough to be able to comprehend that.

    On a side note what happened to this poor girl?


    Why wouldn't you criticize both and why would you purposefully misrepresent the actions of the other? To drive your hidden agenda perhaps?
    It is pretty simple if you consider that more than two groups are involved and you can't possibly know all of them. The thread topic was about antifa and their violence and the video was just the actions happening. I have not spoken about any other group other than antifa, your assumptions that I support anyone involved is a lack of emotional control on your part and others.

    I can't control that nor will I apologize for actions not of my own.
    We're paying attention over time and connecting dots between groups you criticize and belief statements made about society.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 9,998
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Just because you criticize one group doesn't mean you support any other involved.

    I am not going to apologize that some people are not smart enough to be able to comprehend that.

    On a side note what happened to this poor girl?


    Why wouldn't you criticize both and why would you purposefully misrepresent the actions of the other? To drive your hidden agenda perhaps?
    It is pretty simple if you consider that more than two groups are involved and you can't possibly know all of them. The thread topic was about antifa and their violence and the video was just the actions happening. I have not spoken about any other group other than antifa, your assumptions that I support anyone involved is a lack of emotional control on your part and others.

    I can't control that nor will I apologize for actions not of my own.
    More faux outrage then on your part?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,097
    unsung said:

    People were asking that you defend your claim she was throwing bottles with m-80s so her getting punched was justified.

    If someone stops another from assaulting a third it is generally considered a justifiable action. We can't always vet the participants ahead of time.
    I wasn't clear. You claimed the bottle issue, and people were wanting proof of that.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 9,998
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    Just because you criticize one group doesn't mean you support any other involved.

    I am not going to apologize that some people are not smart enough to be able to comprehend that.

    On a side note what happened to this poor girl?


    Why wouldn't you criticize both and why would you purposefully misrepresent the actions of the other? To drive your hidden agenda perhaps?
    It is pretty simple if you consider that more than two groups are involved and you can't possibly know all of them. The thread topic was about antifa and their violence and the video was just the actions happening. I have not spoken about any other group other than antifa, your assumptions that I support anyone involved is a lack of emotional control on your part and others.

    I can't control that nor will I apologize for actions not of my own.
    How do you justify trying to pass a doctored photo as truth? And not expose your bias by doing so?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120
    edited April 19
    unsung said:

    Turns out the thing that got punched was loading m80's in glass bottles and throwing them. And it actually had one in hand when that guy stopped the bottle from being thrown.

    this would suggest otherwise.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,676
    Posts doctored photos & suggests woman getting punched smells like urine........

    OP's bias is clear as day.



  • She (not it) is not holding any bottles in any pictures except those on the alt-right websites.
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,264
    unsung said:

    PJPOWER said:

    Fair enough but it seems one side is being defended, nazis, or at least not as condemned as vociferously while most posts, other than Unsung's, condemned both sides. I fully support anyone to peacefully assemble and exercise their freedom of speech but also recognize that some freedom of speech will elicit and end in violence. That's not a result I wish for or think is right but one I can understand. Are you okay with nazis sucker punching women?

    Not okay with anyone sucker punching anyone. Not okay with people throwing bottles into crowds. Not okay with people randomly pepper spraying others. I am okay with neo-nazis and antifa beating the shit out of each other. If this woman was part of antifa, like others suggested about neo-nazi participants, she should expect her violent group to be met with apposed violence. If she was part of antifa, she was not an innocent bystander and I have no sympathy for her or for him going to prison.
    Is antifa an actual organization like neo-nazis?
    Yes. They have regional chapters just like blm too. They work to suppress free speech through violence.
    You seem to have a misunderstanding of what it means to suppress free speech.

    Free speech is suppressed by governments.

    This is more like disagreeing with opposing views through violence.
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 12,280
    edited April 19



    She (not it) is not holding any bottles in any pictures except those on the alt-right websites.

    The fact people would stoop to doctoring pictures to validate the action is unbelievable.

    I mean... cleaning up the mess in Trump's pants is one thing... but this is another.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 8,720



    She (not it) is not holding any bottles in any pictures except those on the alt-right websites.

    The fact people would stoop to doctoring pictures to validate the action is unbelievable.

    I mean... cleaning up the mess in Trump's pants is one thing... but this is another.
    Yeah, that is straight up crazy, sick, and sad.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120



    She (not it) is not holding any bottles in any pictures except those on the alt-right websites.

    The fact people would stoop to doctoring pictures to validate the action is unbelievable.

    I mean... cleaning up the mess in Trump's pants is one thing... but this is another.
    I assumed the pic I saw of trump's soiled golf pants was actually doctored. was that real?
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,264



    She (not it) is not holding any bottles in any pictures except those on the alt-right websites.

    The fact people would stoop to doctoring pictures to validate the action is unbelievable.

    I mean... cleaning up the mess in Trump's pants is one thing... but this is another.
    I assumed the pic I saw of trump's soiled golf pants was actually doctored. was that real?
    the photo was fake

    although the White House has yet to deny the incident happened
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    She (not it) is not holding any bottles in any pictures except those on the alt-right websites.

    The fact people would stoop to doctoring pictures to validate the action is unbelievable.

    I mean... cleaning up the mess in Trump's pants is one thing... but this is another.
    Sadly, I find it completely believable this day in age.

    The truth is becoming less & less relevant to far too many people.

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120
    edited April 19



    She (not it) is not holding any bottles in any pictures except those on the alt-right websites.

    The fact people would stoop to doctoring pictures to validate the action is unbelievable.

    I mean... cleaning up the mess in Trump's pants is one thing... but this is another.
    Sadly, I find it completely believable this day in age.

    The truth is becoming less & less relevant to far too many people.
    the ends have always justified the means for a certain sect of people. it's just that the means have become more difficult to detect.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,935



    She (not it) is not holding any bottles in any pictures except those on the alt-right websites.

    The fact people would stoop to doctoring pictures to validate the action is unbelievable.

    I mean... cleaning up the mess in Trump's pants is one thing... but this is another.
    Sadly, I find it completely believable this day in age.

    The truth is becoming less & less relevant to far too many people.
    the ends have always justified the means for a certain sect of people. it's just that the means have become more difficult to detect.
    There was once a proposal from the JPEG committee for cameras to write a unique piece of metadata that identified the photographs as "pure", and have that metadata removed once altered in any way. That is so sorely needed today - and the same for video.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,264



    She (not it) is not holding any bottles in any pictures except those on the alt-right websites.

    The fact people would stoop to doctoring pictures to validate the action is unbelievable.

    I mean... cleaning up the mess in Trump's pants is one thing... but this is another.
    Sadly, I find it completely believable this day in age.

    The truth is becoming less & less relevant to far too many people.
    the ends have always justified the means for a certain sect of people. it's just that the means have become more difficult to detect.


    I'd say this pretty well sums it up
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