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    Quite a few white supremicist gangs listed but we never hear about them from Team Trump Treason. At all. Anywhere. Add the other, what I would guess to be predominately white, and they dwarf all the others, combined. Be afraid.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gangs_in_the_United_States
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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    "Swelled its ranks by several people?" Since when do "several people" swell the ranks? From an official White House email:

    “As the massive migrant caravan pushes toward the southern U.S. border, a second group of about 1,000 people from Honduras is rushing to join the main group -- which reportedly has swelled its ranks with several people who've already been deported. The caravan, which has around 5,000 to 7,000 members, was on the move again Monday morning, departing the southern Mexico city of Tapachula,” Greg Norman reports in Fox News.


    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    I'm concerned about the Mayans moving into Richmond.  
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,242
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Ok, I don't think any of us are experts on the exact number of gangs in our states unless you work in LE so I wouldn't think you would know for sure how big of an impact they or any other gang have in your specific city, but you specifically said Trump was right and that it was downplayed. It wasn't downplayed that MS-13 is a bad gang, what got downplayed was it being used as the reason for a wall and his whole "bad hombres" talk. Yes, any MS-13 member who has illegally entered this country is a problem, but making it sound like thousands of them are pouring across the border on a regular basis so we need to build a wall is a lie and being used as a fear mongering tactic.

    That's great that they ran a story on MS-13, have you researched the gang activity of your area to see how much of a threat they are as opposed to other gangs? For the most part all gangs are bad, but I would be wondering a bit more about why all of a sudden this story is getting press a few weeks before an election in a state that has an upstart Republican candidate looking to knock off the incumbent democrat mired in some corruption scandals.

    Here is what the data on gangs in NJ said in 2010:


    https://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/gangs_in_nj_2010.pdf

    I could not find anything newer than that, but this article had more current information and was more straight forward.
    https://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2018/08/how_many_ms-13_members_are_in_us_nj.html

    It's a hopeless situation...
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,242
    "Swelled its ranks by several people?" Since when do "several people" swell the ranks? From an official White House email:

    “As the massive migrant caravan pushes toward the southern U.S. border, a second group of about 1,000 people from Honduras is rushing to join the main group -- which reportedly has swelled its ranks with several people who've already been deported. The caravan, which has around 5,000 to 7,000 members, was on the move again Monday morning, departing the southern Mexico city of Tapachula,” Greg Norman reports in Fox News.


    Sounds like they're covering a hurricane. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,544
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered  a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.

    More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.

    They are as big a threat to the average  american as is antifa and the proud boys.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,718
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered  a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.

    More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.

    They are as big a threat to the average  american as is antifa and the proud boys.
    The sniper hit the Exxon station in Fredericksburg when he killed the guy from NJ.  I was at that Exxon not one hour before because I worked in the Capital One building that was right behind it.  If you remember, that all happened right after 9/11.  People were walking in zig zags to the grocery store, gas stations offered full service because no one wanted to pump gas.  It was a really scary time because it was random and prevalent.  
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered  a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.

    More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.

    They are as big a threat to the average  american as is antifa and the proud boys.
    So because they mostly target undocumented immigrants we shouldn't worry about them? You're safe, so fuck it who cares? 
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,242
    edited October 2018
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered  a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.

    More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.

    They are as big a threat to the average  american as is antifa and the proud boys.
    So because they mostly target undocumented immigrants we shouldn't worry about them? You're safe, so fuck it who cares? 
    C'mon man. You know that's not what he's saying. You accuse H2M of being a bully and then proceed to start being the anti-message bully.

    The point is that, why must only this group all of a sudden be a target? We all know the answer so quit acting like it means we don't care about their violence.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    tbergs said:
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered  a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.

    More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.

    They are as big a threat to the average  american as is antifa and the proud boys.
    So because they mostly target undocumented immigrants we shouldn't worry about them? You're safe, so fuck it who cares? 
    C'mon man. You know that's not what he's saying. You accuse H2M of being a bully and then proceed to start being the anti-message bully.

    The point is that, why must only this group all of a sudden be a target? We all know the answer so quit acting like it means we don't care about their violence.
    My question was genuine. The post infers that they aren't a big deal because they target immigrants. Nit taking a position one way or another, I just thought the statement if the post was odd, specifically from that poster. 

    You dont read the post the same way?
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,242
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered  a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.

    More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.

    They are as big a threat to the average  american as is antifa and the proud boys.
    So because they mostly target undocumented immigrants we shouldn't worry about them? You're safe, so fuck it who cares? 
    C'mon man. You know that's not what he's saying. You accuse H2M of being a bully and then proceed to start being the anti-message bully.

    The point is that, why must only this group all of a sudden be a target? We all know the answer so quit acting like it means we don't care about their violence.
    My question was genuine. The post infers that they aren't a big deal because they target immigrants. Nit taking a position one way or another, I just thought the statement if the post was odd, specifically from that poster. 

    You dont read the post the same way?
    I read it as, they are no more of a threat than they were yesterday or 10 years ago so don't let fear mongering play a part in how safe you feel after reading that story. It served it's purpose; caused fear in older white voters who will want to see increased spending and focus on this deadly gang that is running rampant in NJ. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,619
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered  a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.

    More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.

    They are as big a threat to the average  american as is antifa and the proud boys.
    So because they mostly target undocumented immigrants we shouldn't worry about them? You're safe, so fuck it who cares? 
    Do you wonder why trump is tying it to the subject of immigration and not tying it to the subject of gang activity exclusively? It’s because people have fear about it and he’s manipulating people with a fear based message to push his immigration plan. If he wanted to make fighting gang violence a priority, then he would lose that leverage. It’s the same with Chicago. Is he going to associate the murders there more with gang activity, or tie it to liberals? You blame liberals for gang activity to feed the false narrative that we’re destroying the country. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    mrussel1 said:
    njnancy said:
    And Trump doesn't care about any of this.
    To be honest, I don’t eithrr.  Didn’t know or care about the dude before, don’t know or care about him now.
    It's not about him personally,  it's about a state sanctioned murder of resident alien and employee of the Post, by a supposed ally and proponent of freedom of the press. 
    Obviously. I really think that anyone who acts like there isn't a broader meaning behind this is practicing extreme willful ignorance.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 


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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    PJ_Soul said:
    mrussel1 said:
    njnancy said:
    And Trump doesn't care about any of this.
    To be honest, I don’t eithrr.  Didn’t know or care about the dude before, don’t know or care about him now.
    It's not about him personally,  it's about a state sanctioned murder of resident alien and employee of the Post, by a supposed ally and proponent of freedom of the press. 
    Obviously. I really think that anyone who acts like there isn't a broader meaning behind this is practicing extreme willful ignorance.
    35% of the population is willfully ignorant every day of the week.  
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered  a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.

    More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.

    They are as big a threat to the average  american as is antifa and the proud boys.

    They typically don't shit where they eat.

    I agree that they don't target randoms for shits and giggles. People that get hurt or killed by these people have had direct dealings with them in some way. With that said... their tactics for dealing with people they seek to hurt are excessively ruthless.
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    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 



    Makes no sense at all.

    You've done better with these goofy things trying to make your point.
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    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 



    Makes no sense at all.

    You've done better with these goofy things trying to make your point.
    I’m chalking it up to a failed troll attempt rather than him trying to make a point that racism carries the same scientific reality as gravity. 
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 



    Makes no sense at all.

    You've done better with these goofy things trying to make your point.
    I’m chalking it up to a failed troll attempt rather than him trying to make a point that racism carries the same scientific reality as gravity. 
    I've come to the conclusion that it's all just to troll. 
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    Ok so Bolton acknowledges Russian meddling in our elections but it had no effect ok that’s good enough no lol this country has become one fucking ugly joke ...
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    tbergs said:
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:9
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Headline from my local newspaper (main area of distribution is two counties with approx one million people.) Seems like  trump wasn’t wrong on this one: 

    "Not bad in Your book" , right?
    Hey I call them like I see them, he was right. 
    by the way, it was “my neck of the woods.”  When you want to use my own words use them right. 
    No, it was "not bad in mY book".
    Ok whatever, I am not understanding your point. He emphasized a long time ago and everyone on the forum downplayed it; turns out he was right. 
    If you’re claiming he was right, what was he right about. No one is saying ms 13 doesn’t exist. trump over stated the gang trying to weave it into a manipulative message about immigration policy. The actual number of ms 13 gang members has been the same for many years and was originally born in the US prison system. 
    Exactly..I know they've been in DC for years.  
    From the article I read their numbers are going up in nj. 

    Are you afraid of the Bloods and the Crips too? What about Hell's Angels? Why do you think Trump singles out only this one kind of gang when there are many others like them? 
    Yeah I am not a fan of any of the gangs you listed. The article was about how ms-13 is increasing their numbers and territory in Jersey; when I see a bloods and crips article I ll be sure to post. 
    Up until about 12 years ago I lived in a DC suburb neighborhood that bordered  a neighborhood infested with MS13. I was at no time in danger of being assaulted by them. And I never lived in fear of them. I was not their target. Their target then, and now, is mostly illegals and the local businesses associated with them.

    More of my neighbors were hurt by the DC sniper than have ever been hurt by MS13.

    They are as big a threat to the average  american as is antifa and the proud boys.
    So because they mostly target undocumented immigrants we shouldn't worry about them? You're safe, so fuck it who cares? 
    C'mon man. You know that's not what he's saying. You accuse H2M of being a bully and then proceed to start being the anti-message bully.

    The point is that, why must only this group all of a sudden be a target? We all know the answer so quit acting like it means we don't care about their violence.
    My question was genuine. The post infers that they aren't a big deal because they target immigrants. Nit taking a position one way or another, I just thought the statement if the post was odd, specifically from that poster. 

    You dont read the post the same way?
    I read it as, they are no more of a threat than they were yesterday or 10 years ago so don't let fear mongering play a part in how safe you feel after reading that story. It served it's purpose; caused fear in older white voters who will want to see increased spending and focus on this deadly gang that is running rampant in NJ. 
    You got it
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    Most corrupt incompetent pathological liar sexual liar racist pig ever ! It’s embarrassing that any sane American can support this vile human ..
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    Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one,  but now the mask is off.    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist

    Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle.  More befitting words are rarely spoken

     "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
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    mrussel1 said:
    Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one,  but now the mask is off.    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist

    Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle.  More befitting words are rarely spoken

     "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."

    And it means nothing. The simpletons were yuckin' it up and lovin' them some nationalism (most of them confused by any word with more than two syllables).

    Nothing Trump has done has changed the mindset of his 'base'. The next election is going to come down to voter turnout. I refuse to believe there are that many idiots in America to continue with this goofball as their president. I believe that Republicans with half a brain or an ounce of morals will not vote for their team (this wouldn't be a majority). I believe that women with any integrity would use their vote to express their disgust. I believe minorities that have been marginalized will use their vote. And I believe every single Democrat will count as well.

    The midterm will reveal a lot.

    I just don't think there are not enough fools in America to keep this train wreck chugging along. If it does happen... well then I guess I stand corrected and America can own this.
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    Most corrupt incompetent pathological liar sexual liar racist pig ever ! It’s embarrassing that any sane American can support this vile human ..

    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    ban free speech!!!
    Free speech is protected. Hate Speech is not. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. 

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    mrussel1 said:
    Trump declares himself a nationalist... well we all knew he acted like one,  but now the mask is off.    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/412649-trump-you-know-what-i-am-im-a-nationalist

    Reminds me of the quote by DeGaulle.  More befitting words are rarely spoken

     "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first."
    My home country should be my priority.  Oh no, I’m not a globalist either.
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