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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 2,396
    PJ_Soul said:
    Is the middle east better today or before that Bush and his war criminal went full maniac ...

    All Bush had to do after 911 is tell the commanding officers to let the special forces hunt Bin Laden, because in the end that who eventually captured him.  Instead, he sent a bunch of young people who probably couldn't even find Iraq or Afghanistan on a map off to die in a pointless war.  W is a WAR CRIMINAL, the same as Hitler and many more...I have no problem mentioning W and Hitler in the same breath, both evil.  The real evil doer was the Bush Administration...
    Both are real evil doers. That is my point. I think looking and Bush and saying "he's the real evil doer" completely dismisses or plays down all the evil currently being inflicted by the Trump administration. I don't say that in an effort to play down the evil doing of the Bush admin, but to enforce the fact that evil persists with the Trump admin. Some people seem to think the Trump admin is just some joke that they have to endure for a while. That is not the case at all.
    I get what you are saying.  But, in my opinion, until Trumps starts 2 huge wars for no reason ... I am sticking with Bush.  But Trump is only 2 years in, there is time to catch him.  I could take the high road, and rank them as the worst.  
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 2,396
    I think we can all agree that Trump and Bush are not self-made men...unless I'm misinformed, didn't Bush get money from daddy too
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,727
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    The W administration was 100x's worse than this administration 
    I think he was. Started 2 huge wars. Does anyone even know how many died in the 19 year war in the middle east the Bush started?
    He hadn't done any of that when he'd been in office as long as Trump has been though. Let's just wait and see. (of course, 9/11 kind of had an impact on the Bush presidency as well as his reelection, so comparing these two administrations/presidents at all doesn't make too much sense to me at the moment).
    Obviously the Iraq war and the fruit from that poisonous tree (torture, Patriot Act, mission accomplished, lack of body armor for troops, cost of the war, Osama Bin-Laden fail, post-Saddam plan fail, etc.) are the biggest scale tippers for the Bush admin being the worst, but let's not forget how horribly he handled the economy, hurricane Katrina, the environment (turning his back on the Kyoto protocol), tax cuts for the wealthy, his executive orders and the list goes on. Oddly enough, Bush should have never been president and neither should Trump. Two losing presidents who were both fake successful businessman and cheated the system to get rich are the worst 2 presidents of the modern age, but yet our damn country is stupid enough to buy in to it within a decade of each other. I think some on here need to revisit how horrible Bush was and how he got to be president in the 1st place. Fuck that guy and fuck the current guy. They're both shit, one just hasn't killed thousands directly yet by sending them to a fake war, but he's setting the indirect death of many with every flick of his tiny pen wielding appendage.


    Not always so indirect. Trump has ramped up drone attacks in the middle easy by a massive amount, leading to many direct deaths too, with little to no concern about civilian casualties.
    Aaaah yes, the drone strikes no one cares about anymore now that Obama is out of office. I'd still classify those as a form of indirect murder because much like using a credit card, you aren't noticing the immediate impact of the action. People want to be able to justify their actions without having to think much about the consequence. Apparently the American people feel the same way based on the deafening silence, especially Trump supporters. The only thing they have to say is that Trump has eliminated ISIS and that they don't hear much about terror attacks anymore so it must not exist, unless you're the innocent middle east citizen cursing the reign of US terror over there.
    It's all about the media.... And as I've said again and again, the effect Trump has had on the media and has the potential to have on the media, and, worse, people's perceptions when it comes to the news media thanks to Trump's very deliberate propaganda, may be more dangerous to America and the American people themselves than anything else he does to them, or anything Bush ever did to them. I think this topic is wildly underplayed and far too ignored. I think that is probably because it's not something that's concrete. You can't look at statistics or job numbers or the stock market to demonstrate this particular danger to Americans... But history has shown, all over the world, that it could indeed be what harms the citizens of America and the condition of the country the most in the long run.
    Chicken or the egg... if the people are dumb enough to be duped, what's it matter?

    Trump isnt the disease, he is a symptom of the disease.

    Save yourselves, it's too late. It's all bullshit and its all toxic. Enjoy life while you can. Or choose to focus on toilet paper on his shoes, your call lol

    Do what you can with your two hands, fuck everything else
    There comes a point when being dumb or smart has nothing to do with it.
    Sure it does... 

    He's speaking to people that already agree, he hasn't swayed anyone to agree with him... which is the bigger problem, the one man barking out nonsense or the 60,000,000 that agreed and voted for it? Its not like these supporters just arrived at their ideals in November 2016, they were always there

    I'm more worried about the 60,000,000  eggs inst4ad of the 1 orange chicken lol
    None of that has anything to do with it either, at a certain point. You have to consider the ramifications of it all, not just the surface level opinions about news reports. There is a reason that all dictators start with anti-media propaganda. Look at the bigger picture. The long game. It's about so much more than one man barking nonsense and a contingent of supporters and voters. This kind of thing worms into the subconscious, into the fabric of societies. And it tips elections and social policy to favour dictators.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,727
    edited October 10
    my2hands said:
    And im not saying Trump supporters are dumb... plenty if them are intelligent, professional, succesful...  they just have a different worldview.... if course plenty are probably pretty dumb, but I know there are plenty if "dumb" or uneducated Democrats or progressives to balance it out
    I think they've all got something wrong with them. If they're not the dumb ones, they're the a-holes. Dumb is the generous label. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,977
    edited October 10
    Virtually every word is a lie or untrue. And some on here are still worried about Hillary.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/10/fact-checking-president-trumps-usa-today-op-ed-medicare-for-all/?utm_term=.1d3d7bd4e789

    President Trump wrote an opinion article for USA Today on Oct. 10 regarding proposals to expand Medicare to all Americans — known as Medicare-for-All — in which almost every sentence contained a misleading statement or a falsehood.

    Many of these are claims we have already debunked. Presumably, the president is aware of our fact checks — he even links to two — but chose to ignore the facts in service of a campaign-style op-ed. Medicare-for-All is a complex subject, and serious questions could be raised about the cost and how a transition from today’s health-care system would be financed. Trump correctly notes that studies have estimated that the program — under the version promoted by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) — would add $36 trillion in costs to the federal government over 10 years.

    But this is not a serious effort to debate the issue. So as a reader service, we offer a guide through Trump’s rhetoric.

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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,756
    my2hands said:
    And im not saying Trump supporters are dumb... plenty if them are intelligent, professional, succesful...  they just have a different worldview.... if course plenty are probably pretty dumb, but I know there are plenty if "dumb" or uneducated Democrats or progressives to balance it out

    Trump supporters may not be dumb.  But they certainly are dumber.
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,306
    More swamp draining and vote buying.....

    Defense bill with $162M for Maine shipyard upgrades sent to Trump for signature


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,363
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,363
    If your house or trailer is being blown away this idiot president doesn’t give a fuck about you !
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,756
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,977
    Kat said:
    I wish Justice Kennedy had slapped Team Trump Treason across the face and told him he should wash his mouth out with soap instead of just wagging his finger at the moron.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,155
    Oh how I wish I knew what that was about.
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    Kat said:
    I lost all respect for Kennedy...fuck him
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  • Kat said:

    Who knows what the hell they were talking about, but the physical communication is fascinating.

    Tubby gently placing his hand on Kennedy's back- seemingly assuring him of something... Kennedy stopping dead in his tracks- not liking something just spoken to him and either scolding or warning McDonald.

    Man, that conversation would have been fantastic to hear. Slippery Don is not the kind of guy that does well with cameras on him 24/7.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,977
    Why stop with the world? Why not make it the universe? Poor, poor Melania. I’ll bet she wishes she could go back to Slovakia, back to when times were simpler, kinder maybe?

    Melania Trump: 'I'm the most bullied person on the world' - CNN Politics https://apple.news/A5BzFfQ0OSX65hUsF1jfRmQ
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  • Why stop with the world? Why not make it the universe? Poor, poor Melania. I’ll bet she wishes she could go back to Slovakia, back to when times were simpler, kinder maybe?

    Melania Trump: 'I'm the most bullied person on the world' - CNN Politics https://apple.news/A5BzFfQ0OSX65hUsF1jfRmQ

    Well... looks like she is an idiot after all.

    I had my suspicions after she spoke to conservation efforts in Africa- seemingly unaware of the fact that the gremlin offspring of her disgusting husband psychotically kills large mammals there, mutilates them, and poses for pictures with their mutilated body parts... leering as only the greasiest of greasy leerers might be able to do.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,155
    Kat said:

    Who knows what the hell they were talking about, but the physical communication is fascinating.

    Tubby gently placing his hand on Kennedy's back- seemingly assuring him of something... Kennedy stopping dead in his tracks- not liking something just spoken to him and either scolding or warning McDonald.

    Man, that conversation would have been fantastic to hear. Slippery Don is not the kind of guy that does well with cameras on him 24/7.
    I think he told him that Kav admitted the sexual assault to him and he still got him confirmed....bragging.
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  • Kat said:

    Who knows what the hell they were talking about, but the physical communication is fascinating.

    Tubby gently placing his hand on Kennedy's back- seemingly assuring him of something... Kennedy stopping dead in his tracks- not liking something just spoken to him and either scolding or warning McDonald.

    Man, that conversation would have been fantastic to hear. Slippery Don is not the kind of guy that does well with cameras on him 24/7.
    I think he told him that Kav admitted the sexual assault to him and he still got him confirmed....bragging.

    Response: "Okay listen upppp. Youuuuu don't say another word. Okay? I mean it. I ain't playin'."
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    Why stop with the world? Why not make it the universe? Poor, poor Melania. I’ll bet she wishes she could go back to Slovakia, back to when times were simpler, kinder maybe?

    Melania Trump: 'I'm the most bullied person on the world' - CNN Politics https://apple.news/A5BzFfQ0OSX65hUsF1jfRmQ

    The most bullied person?

    I wonder when she was last compared to an ape. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,155
    Why stop with the world? Why not make it the universe? Poor, poor Melania. I’ll bet she wishes she could go back to Slovakia, back to when times were simpler, kinder maybe?

    Melania Trump: 'I'm the most bullied person on the world' - CNN Politics https://apple.news/A5BzFfQ0OSX65hUsF1jfRmQ

    The most bullied person?

    I wonder when she was last compared to an ape. 
    It’s pretty obvious to anyone paying attention. Nickelback is the most bullied in the universe 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,468
    Why stop with the world? Why not make it the universe? Poor, poor Melania. I’ll bet she wishes she could go back to Slovakia, back to when times were simpler, kinder maybe?

    Melania Trump: 'I'm the most bullied person on the world' - CNN Politics https://apple.news/A5BzFfQ0OSX65hUsF1jfRmQ

    The most bullied person?

    I wonder when she was last compared to an ape. 
    It’s pretty obvious to anyone paying attention. Nickelback is the most bullied in the universe 
    We’ll, there’s bullying, and then there’s just plain
    reality. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,977
    We're not being lead, we're being played. For fools.

    Opinion

    Trump’s presidency is one giant act of trolling

    His nonstop lying is an attack on “the constitution of knowledge.”

    By George Will  •  Read more »


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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 6,004
    Why stop with the world? Why not make it the universe? Poor, poor Melania. I’ll bet she wishes she could go back to Slovakia, back to when times were simpler, kinder maybe?

    Melania Trump: 'I'm the most bullied person on the world' - CNN Politics https://apple.news/A5BzFfQ0OSX65hUsF1jfRmQ

    Well... looks like she is an idiot after all.

    I had my suspicions after she spoke to conservation efforts in Africa- seemingly unaware of the fact that the gremlin offspring of her disgusting husband psychotically kills large mammals there, mutilates them, and poses for pictures with their mutilated body parts... leering as only the greasiest of greasy leerers might be able to do.
    She's as self-absorbed and vacuous as her husband:

    "Melania Trump went on a safari in Kenya wearing a pith helmet - a symbol of European colonial rule across Africa" 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,155
    So I’ve re-thought this. Pretty sure the most bullied person in the world has to be a conservative poster on AMT... not sure which one. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,977
    So I’ve re-thought this. Pretty sure the most bullied person in the world has to be a conservative poster on AMT... not sure which one. 
    Yea, sure. Signed,

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,727
    edited October 11
    Ummm, is anyone watching this live stream of Trump and Kanye having a conversation with each other in the Oval Office??!!?! WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?! Just two fucking crazy people having a crazy conversation for the whole world to see, with a huge gaggle of reporters and photographers standing there to watch - it's so bizarre it barely feels real.... Kanye is absolutely going OFF right now, of course. Wow.


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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,727
    Lol, even Trump is starting to get that look on his face... Like, "what in the fuck is this dude talking about??" :lol:
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 407
    Wow, that was fucking bonkers. Lol.
  • madtowndavemadtowndave Minneapolis, MNPosts: 3,894
    Kanye and Trump were made for each other. That monologue was completely incomprehensible. I kept asking myself if he showed up high.
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