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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Use this calculator and see how the tax bill will affect your paycheck

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/calculate-americans-taxes-senate-reform-bill/index.html


    Falling down,...not staying down
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    PJ_Soul said:
    OnWis97 said:
    tbergs said:
    Another terrible example of this administration. Omarosa was as complicit as the rest, but now she sees dollar signs and wants to cash in. Unbelievable that she has been able to ride that Apprentice notoriety this long.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/364852-omarosa-i-saw-things-in-trump-administration-that-made-me
    She's almost implying that she's going to have lots to say once her tenure at the White House is done.  I know it's not realistic, but it would be so funny if she was a key factor in bringing this thing down.
    She may just be one of "many." I don't sense a whole lot of loyalty to Team Trump Treason, except by those guilty parties.
    trump demands loyalty but never gives it in return, and loyalty doesn’t really work that way, but trump is unable to figure this out. I can see Kush or Don Jr being loyal, but ouside of those two everyone will be just trying to cover their own ass. 
    I'm pretty sure Trump would through Jared under the bus too, if he really felt he needed to.
    I don't think there's anyone he wouldn't throw under the bus to save his reputation and/or skin.

    Kushner, Ivanka, Barron, whoever.
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    H.ChinaskiH.Chinaski Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,596
    Kat said:
    Use this calculator and see how the tax bill will affect your paycheck

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/calculate-americans-taxes-senate-reform-bill/index.html


    Hmm. Interesting... Thanks for posting this.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    Kat said:
    Use this calculator and see how the tax bill will affect your paycheck

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politics/calculate-americans-taxes-senate-reform-bill/index.html


    Hmm. Interesting... Thanks for posting this.
    Thank you and it's sad and just wrong. Click on each Income bracket to see how different they are. 
    Falling down,...not staying down
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,537
    Trumps lies vs. Obama and Bush from the NYT....

    We have used the word 'lies' again here, as we did in our original piece. If anything, though, the word is unfair to Obama and Bush. When they became aware that they had been saying something untrue, they stopped doing it. Obama didn’t continue to claim that all Americans would be able to keep their existing health insurance under Obamacare, for example, and Bush changed the way he spoke about Iraq’s weapons capability.

    Trump is different. When he is caught lying, he will often try to discredit people telling the truth, be they judges, scientists, F.B.I. or C.I.A. officials, journalists or members of Congress. Trump is trying to make truth irrelevant. It is extremely damaging to democracy, and it’s not an accident. It’s core to his political strategy."

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/opinion/sunday/trump-lies-obama-who-is-worse.html
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    Thanks Donny. More brilliant brilliance brilliantly on display. And you know why Donny nominated this brilliantly qualified individual don’t you?

    Trump Judicial Nominee Can't Answer Basic Questions About The Law In Disastrous Hearing - HuffPost https://apple.news/AvIWk67ulS6SWqCn0ZOtbiA
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,281
    Trumps lies vs. Obama and Bush from the NYT....

    We have used the word 'lies' again here, as we did in our original piece. If anything, though, the word is unfair to Obama and Bush. When they became aware that they had been saying something untrue, they stopped doing it. Obama didn’t continue to claim that all Americans would be able to keep their existing health insurance under Obamacare, for example, and Bush changed the way he spoke about Iraq’s weapons capability.

    Trump is different. When he is caught lying, he will often try to discredit people telling the truth, be they judges, scientists, F.B.I. or C.I.A. officials, journalists or members of Congress. Trump is trying to make truth irrelevant. It is extremely damaging to democracy, and it’s not an accident. It’s core to his political strategy."

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/opinion/sunday/trump-lies-obama-who-is-worse.html
    No doubt and today he’s scheduled to address graduating FBI class can’t wait to hear the praises he bestowes on them ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    Thanks Donny. More brilliant brilliance brilliantly on display. And you know why Donny nominated this brilliantly qualified individual don’t you?

    Trump Judicial Nominee Can't Answer Basic Questions About The Law In Disastrous Hearing - HuffPost https://apple.news/AvIWk67ulS6SWqCn0ZOtbiA
    Hey, I know what he Daubert standard is. I guess I'm more qualified for the position than Petersen is. 
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    Trump’s speech to the fbi is like a stand up comedy routine, bad comedy. Really, really bad comedy.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    This seems like a pretty big deal

    Prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers

    Bloom said her goal in securing money was not to pressure the women to come forward, but rather to help them relocate or arrange security if they felt unsafe during the waning days of a vitriolic election. She declined to identify any of the donors.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/365068-exclusive-prominent-lawyer-sought-donor-cash-for-two-trump-accusers

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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,609
    JC29856 said:
    This seems like a pretty big deal

    Prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers

    Bloom said her goal in securing money was not to pressure the women to come forward, but rather to help them relocate or arrange security if they felt unsafe during the waning days of a vitriolic election. She declined to identify any of the donors.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/365068-exclusive-prominent-lawyer-sought-donor-cash-for-two-trump-accusers

    Why do you think it’s a big deal?
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    JC29856 said:
    This seems like a pretty big deal

    Prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers

    Bloom said her goal in securing money was not to pressure the women to come forward, but rather to help them relocate or arrange security if they felt unsafe during the waning days of a vitriolic election. She declined to identify any of the donors.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/365068-exclusive-prominent-lawyer-sought-donor-cash-for-two-trump-accusers

    You mean like spending money on accusers like Linda Tripp’s makeover? 3D, D’ing.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    This seems like a pretty big deal

    Prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers

    Bloom said her goal in securing money was not to pressure the women to come forward, but rather to help them relocate or arrange security if they felt unsafe during the waning days of a vitriolic election. She declined to identify any of the donors.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/365068-exclusive-prominent-lawyer-sought-donor-cash-for-two-trump-accusers

    Why do you think it’s a big deal?
    on second thought its not that big a deal.

    California lawyer Lisa Bloom’s efforts included offering to sell alleged victims’ stories to TV outlets in return for a commission for herself, arranging a donor to pay off one Trump accuser’s mortgage and attempting to secure a six-figure payment for another woman who ultimately declined to come forward after being offered as much as $750,000, the clients told The Hill.

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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Bloom then arranged for a donor to make a larger contribution to help Harth pay off the mortgage on her Queens apartment in New York City. The amount was under $30,000, according to a source directly familiar with Harth’s situation. Public records show 

    Harth’s mortgage was recorded as extinguished on Dec. 19, 2016, public records show.


    Documents also show Bloom’s efforts to get alleged victims of sexual assault or harassment to come out against Trump intensified as Election Day 2016 approached.

    When Harth, for instance, informed Bloom she had just made a Facebook post urging other women to come forward about Trump in October 2016, the lawyer texted back: 

    “Wow Jill that would be amazing. 27 days until the election.”

    The woman then texted back demanding to know why there was a deadline. “What does time have to do with this? Time to bury Trump??? You want my story to bury trump [sic] for what? Personal gain? See that ‘s why I have trust issues!!”





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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    VOLUME SPEAKING of Hilliary!!!

    “Please keep the donation offer confidential except to your pastor,” Bloom wrote the woman on Oct. 14, 2016.

    When Bloom found out the woman was still a supporter of Trump and associated with lawyers, friends and associates of the future president, she texted a request that jarred the woman.

    “When you have a chance I suggest you delete the August 2015 Facebook post about supporting Trump,” Bloom texted. “Otherwise the reporter will ask you how you could support him after what he did to you. Your call but it will make your life easier.”

    The woman declined. “I hate to say it, but i [sic] still rather have trump [sic] in office than hillary [sic],” the woman texted back. Bloom answered, “Ok I respect that. Then don’t change anything.”




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    JC29856 said:

    Bloom then arranged for a donor to make a larger contribution to help Harth pay off the mortgage on her Queens apartment in New York City. The amount was under $30,000, according to a source directly familiar with Harth’s situation. Public records show 

    Harth’s mortgage was recorded as extinguished on Dec. 19, 2016, public records show.


    Documents also show Bloom’s efforts to get alleged victims of sexual assault or harassment to come out against Trump intensified as Election Day 2016 approached.

    When Harth, for instance, informed Bloom she had just made a Facebook post urging other women to come forward about Trump in October 2016, the lawyer texted back: 

    “Wow Jill that would be amazing. 27 days until the election.”

    The woman then texted back demanding to know why there was a deadline. “What does time have to do with this? Time to bury Trump??? You want my story to bury trump [sic] for what? Personal gain? See that ‘s why I have trust issues!!”





    How do we know she’s not a Trump supporter operating a la Project Veritas in an effort to cast doubt on all known sexual assaults by Team Trump Treason? Sometimes a great defense is a good offense.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    JC29856 said:
    This seems like a pretty big deal

    Prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers

    Bloom said her goal in securing money was not to pressure the women to come forward, but rather to help them relocate or arrange security if they felt unsafe during the waning days of a vitriolic election. She declined to identify any of the donors.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/365068-exclusive-prominent-lawyer-sought-donor-cash-for-two-trump-accusers

    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    This seems like a pretty big deal

    Prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers

    Bloom said her goal in securing money was not to pressure the women to come forward, but rather to help them relocate or arrange security if they felt unsafe during the waning days of a vitriolic election. She declined to identify any of the donors.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/365068-exclusive-prominent-lawyer-sought-donor-cash-for-two-trump-accusers

    Why do you think it’s a big deal?
    on second thought its not that big a deal.

    California lawyer Lisa Bloom’s efforts included offering to sell alleged victims’ stories to TV outlets in return for a commission for herself, arranging a donor to pay off one Trump accuser’s mortgage and attempting to secure a six-figure payment for another woman who ultimately declined to come forward after being offered as much as $750,000, the clients told The Hill.

    JC29856 said:

    Bloom then arranged for a donor to make a larger contribution to help Harth pay off the mortgage on her Queens apartment in New York City. The amount was under $30,000, according to a source directly familiar with Harth’s situation. Public records show 

    Harth’s mortgage was recorded as extinguished on Dec. 19, 2016, public records show.


    Documents also show Bloom’s efforts to get alleged victims of sexual assault or harassment to come out against Trump intensified as Election Day 2016 approached.

    When Harth, for instance, informed Bloom she had just made a Facebook post urging other women to come forward about Trump in October 2016, the lawyer texted back: 

    “Wow Jill that would be amazing. 27 days until the election.”

    The woman then texted back demanding to know why there was a deadline. “What does time have to do with this? Time to bury Trump??? You want my story to bury trump [sic] for what? Personal gain? See that ‘s why I have trust issues!!”





    JC29856 said:
    VOLUME SPEAKING of Hilliary!!!

    “Please keep the donation offer confidential except to your pastor,” Bloom wrote the woman on Oct. 14, 2016.

    When Bloom found out the woman was still a supporter of Trump and associated with lawyers, friends and associates of the future president, she texted a request that jarred the woman.

    “When you have a chance I suggest you delete the August 2015 Facebook post about supporting Trump,” Bloom texted. “Otherwise the reporter will ask you how you could support him after what he did to you. Your call but it will make your life easier.”

    The woman declined. “I hate to say it, but i [sic] still rather have trump [sic] in office than hillary [sic],” the woman texted back. Bloom answered, “Ok I respect that. Then don’t change anything.”




    2.  Let You Speak First to Establish Your Baseline and Look for Weaknesses
    Many sales people do this when they prospect you. By asking you general and probing questions, they establish a baseline about your thinking and behavior, from which they can then evaluate your strengths and weaknesses. This type of questioning with hidden agenda can also occur at the workplace or in personal relationships.

    3.  Manipulation of Facts
    Examples: Lying. Excuse making. Two faced. Blaming the victim for causing their own victimization. Deformation of the truth. Strategic disclosure or withholding of key information. Exaggeration. Understatement. One-sided bias of issue.

    4.  Overwhelm You with Facts and Statistics
    Some individuals enjoy “intellectual bullying” by presuming to be the expert and most knowledgeable in certain areas. They take advantage of you by imposing alleged facts, statistics, and other data you may know little about. This can happen in sales and financial situations, in professional discussions and negotiations, as well as in social and relational arguments. By presuming expert power over you, the manipulator hopes to push through her or his agenda more convincingly. Some people use this technique for no other reason than to feel a sense of intellectual superiority.

    6.  Raising Their Voice and Displaying Negative Emotions
    Some individuals raise their voice during discussions as a form of aggressive manipulation. The assumption may be that if they project their voice loudly enough, or display negative emotions, you’ll submit to their coercion and give them what they want.  The aggressive voice is frequently combined with strong body language such as standing or excited gestures to increase impact.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/communication-success/201510/14-signs-psychological-and-emotional-manipulation
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    Get ready for the crash and losing your 401K, along with your social security, medicare/medicaid. And more poisoned water, air and degradation of the environment, less safe working conditons and basically more harm to the average person. Because its all about folks like the Koch brothers, who never seem to have enough.

    From the White House:

    I don’t know if we’ll have any left to cut’
    President Donald J. Trump pulled out the ceremonial gold scissors yesterday to show Americans exactly what his Administration is doing to Washington’s vast regulatory state.

    A few highlights from his speech:

    ·         In 1960, there were 20,000 pages of federal regulations; today, there are 185,000—a stack about as tall as one of the reporters covering yesterday’s speech. (He’s 6’3”.)

    ·         “We canceled or delayed over 1,500 planned regulatory actions, more than any previous president by far.”

    ·         The President’s simple message for agency heads: Slash even more red tape in 2018. “And that should just about do it. I don’t know if we’ll have any left to cut.”

    ·         One stat to remember: The Administration promised to cut 2 regulations for each new one added. Agencies blew that 2:1 goal out of the water, instead eliminating rules at a 22:1 clip.

    ·         Why it matters: “Reductions in regulation are happening now,” financial expert Peter Wallison wrote earlier this fall. “That’s why the markets are exuberant.”

     

    Read the President’s full remarks.

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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,609
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    This seems like a pretty big deal

    Prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers

    Bloom said her goal in securing money was not to pressure the women to come forward, but rather to help them relocate or arrange security if they felt unsafe during the waning days of a vitriolic election. She declined to identify any of the donors.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/365068-exclusive-prominent-lawyer-sought-donor-cash-for-two-trump-accusers

    Why do you think it’s a big deal?
    on second thought its not that big a deal.

    California lawyer Lisa Bloom’s efforts included offering to sell alleged victims’ stories to TV outlets in return for a commission for herself, arranging a donor to pay off one Trump accuser’s mortgage and attempting to secure a six-figure payment for another woman who ultimately declined to come forward after being offered as much as $750,000, the clients told The Hill.

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    This seems like a pretty big deal

    Prominent lawyer sought donor cash for two Trump accusers

    Bloom said her goal in securing money was not to pressure the women to come forward, but rather to help them relocate or arrange security if they felt unsafe during the waning days of a vitriolic election. She declined to identify any of the donors.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/365068-exclusive-prominent-lawyer-sought-donor-cash-for-two-trump-accusers

    Why do you think it’s a big deal?
    on second thought its not that big a deal.

    California lawyer Lisa Bloom’s efforts included offering to sell alleged victims’ stories to TV outlets in return for a commission for herself, arranging a donor to pay off one Trump accuser’s mortgage and attempting to secure a six-figure payment for another woman who ultimately declined to come forward after being offered as much as $750,000, the clients told The Hill.

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    word up
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited December 2017


    Yo...they're laughing AT you, not WITH you. 
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    Tiki said:

    Like I said, like really bad, bad, bad comedy. The only thing he forgot to say was, " git 'er done."
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    Tiki said:
    This is another one of those "reading the comments makes you fear for the future of humanity" moments.  

    Those are Trump's base, right there. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Alotta hate in there.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,609
    Tiki said:
    Alotta hate in there.
    I don’t know how you handle it. Even the right wing nutters in online newspaper comments are a lot to deal with. Once trump got nominated I knew I had to bow out of that one. 
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    it's not for the squeamish...
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Roy Moore's loss was sort of fun, but there are some real dirtbags over there.
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    Have a great weekend Donny. Think about that figgy pudding in a week or so. Mueller’s coming next week. BOO! Hahahahahahahahaha!
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