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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero GalaxyPosts: 17,165
    The major news today of that White House visit by the SB Champion PATRIOTS was the Press Conference interruption by GRONK. I mean how can this guy be let loose by the Secret Service in the WH to interrupt the conference? I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't looking to hump something.....Our national security in in serious trouble.

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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    The picture of his cabinet is hilarious. It reminds me of a Where's Waldo picture featuring Ben Carson and Nikki Haley..How about ol' crazy eyes? I swear, it's easy to picture the rest of these guys in Klan uniforms. He seriously picked the worst possible people for every position.




    To be fair, she's only half crazy eye'd.
    She scares me... All of them do. Especially when it comes to Human Rights and the Environment. It's like they all watched The Purge and decided that's the America they want. They're just so out of touch with humanity and only concerned with profit and make everything Us vs. Them. Our political system is a sham. This is definitely a low point in our History. I do like my Governor and think he would make a great President, so there is some hope..
    Nonsense
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548
    g under p said:

    The major news today of that White House visit by the SB Champion PATRIOTS was the Press Conference interruption by GRONK. I mean how can this guy be let loose by the Secret Service in the WH to interrupt the conference? I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't looking to hump something.....Our national security in in serious trouble.

    Peace

    Yeah...especially after climbing in the ring during Wrestlemania! Gronk must be stopped!
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

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    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 7,802
    BS44325 said:

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    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
  • rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    Honestly...

    Losing to Trump by any margin or design is a huge loss.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,497
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,497
    You might think this is acceptable north of the border but more and more folks here see the unseemliness of it.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/19/politics/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-poll-first-family/index.html
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,017

    You might think this is acceptable north of the border but more and more folks here see the unseemliness of it.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/19/politics/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-poll-first-family/index.html

    In related news, 36% of the country has no ability to think rationally and basically have lost their minds.
  • erocshiftyerocshifty Posts: 641

    The picture of his cabinet is hilarious. It reminds me of a Where's Waldo picture featuring Ben Carson and Nikki Haley..How about ol' crazy eyes? I swear, it's easy to picture the rest of these guys in Klan uniforms. He seriously picked the worst possible people for every position.




    To be fair, she's only half crazy eye'd.
    She scares me... All of them do. Especially when it comes to Human Rights and the Environment. It's like they all watched The Purge and decided that's the America they want. They're just so out of touch with humanity and only concerned with profit and make everything Us vs. Them. Our political system is a sham. This is definitely a low point in our History. I do like my Governor and think he would make a great President, so there is some hope..
    Who's your governor? What state?
    Terry McAuliffe of VA. He's been big on fixing Mental Health and fighting some of the immigration polocies. I want to do a little more research, but he's trustworthy and has a pretty cool vibe about him.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/23/terry-mcauliffe-va-governor-vows-resist-donald-tru/

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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
    It was not resoundingly red in the general election and the republicans spent hardly any money comparatively and didn't "fight" until the last minute. The argument can actually be made that Trump's last minute tweets got the GOP base out the polls. You keep repeating it but other then unreliable polls that have already been proven wrong there is just zero evidence of drag. Zero. Your argument for the time being? Untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

    When do you win?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 6,782
    It's a silly argument. Republicans who voted for Trump were not inclined to vote for HRC and they probably would not change their vote, at this point. It's all about turnout.. As it always is. If both sides turn out, red remains red, blue goes blue. Not trying to be trite, but it's really about enthusiasm.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548
    mrussel1 said:

    It's a silly argument. Republicans who voted for Trump were not inclined to vote for HRC and they probably would not change their vote, at this point. It's all about turnout.. As it always is. If both sides turn out, red remains red, blue goes blue. Not trying to be trite, but it's really about enthusiasm.

    Very true and the idea that there is this new energized groundswell of anti-trump enthusiam that will overwhelm current republican districts is just ridiculous. The echo chamber of the left is so completely engulfed by Trump hatred that they just feel they will win anywhere. They are completely avoiding the hard work of rebuilding the party, generating a platform, and recruiting candidates that are good fits for their districts in order to win.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 6,782
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    It's a silly argument. Republicans who voted for Trump were not inclined to vote for HRC and they probably would not change their vote, at this point. It's all about turnout.. As it always is. If both sides turn out, red remains red, blue goes blue. Not trying to be trite, but it's really about enthusiasm.

    Very true and the idea that there is this new energized groundswell of anti-trump enthusiam that will overwhelm current republican districts is just ridiculous. The echo chamber of the left is so completely engulfed by Trump hatred that they just feel they will win anywhere. They are completely avoiding the hard work of rebuilding the party, generating a platform, and recruiting candidates that are good fits for their districts in order to win.
    I disagree with this. Of course the DNC is going to drum up enthusiasm.. declare they have a chance to win, extol close calls, etc. It would be political malpractice not to do so.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,497
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    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
    It was not resoundingly red in the general election and the republicans spent hardly any money comparatively and didn't "fight" until the last minute. The argument can actually be made that Trump's last minute tweets got the GOP base out the polls. You keep repeating it but other then unreliable polls that have already been proven wrong there is just zero evidence of drag. Zero. Your argument for the time being? Untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

    When do you win?
    The 25-37% dyed in the wool trumpsters will never see the light of day. It's the 13-25% of independents and Reagan democrats who will flip when they finally see Trump for who he is, a fraud and a traitor. Me? I'm not running for anything. When do you win al all costs? It's the disenfranchised who become disillusioned. Like coal jobs are coming back slowly no with manufacturing. Please.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 6,789
    I think people from both sides are putting too much into Georgia. I find the Kansas election to be a stronger indicator of where the country is moving. The Georgia race with EIGHTEEN candidates on the ballot makes it impossible to truly gauge enthusiasm. While the Democrats were following a common message, Republicans were split several ways. That greatly impacts excitement and turnout in a one on one. What Kansas shows is that while there seems to be momentum with Democrats. Sure they lost the election, but the needle moved quite a bit in their favor in just 5 or 6 months. So while that's good news for them, it's hard to keep momentum another year and a half until the midterms. Luckily Trump is insanely good at putting blood in the water for the D base.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
    It was not resoundingly red in the general election and the republicans spent hardly any money comparatively and didn't "fight" until the last minute. The argument can actually be made that Trump's last minute tweets got the GOP base out the polls. You keep repeating it but other then unreliable polls that have already been proven wrong there is just zero evidence of drag. Zero. Your argument for the time being? Untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

    When do you win?
    The 25-37% dyed in the wool trumpsters will never see the light of day. It's the 13-25% of independents and Reagan democrats who will flip when they finally see Trump for who he is, a fraud and a traitor. Me? I'm not running for anything. When do you win al all costs? It's the disenfranchised who become disillusioned. Like coal jobs are coming back slowly no with manufacturing. Please.
    You don't get it. They already know he's a "fraud". They voted for a "fraud". They don't care! They will take a genuine "fraud" over any phony politician any day. If the GOP loses the house in 2018, which based on historical norms they should, it will be because the congress is a do-nothing congress that Trump doesn't particularly care for himself. The dems need to run against that congress and not Trump. Focusing on him is a mistake. He distracts democrats, drives them further to the left, and makes them appear insane. Centrist voters will not flock to the dems under that scenerio. Untenable.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,497
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
    It was not resoundingly red in the general election and the republicans spent hardly any money comparatively and didn't "fight" until the last minute. The argument can actually be made that Trump's last minute tweets got the GOP base out the polls. You keep repeating it but other then unreliable polls that have already been proven wrong there is just zero evidence of drag. Zero. Your argument for the time being? Untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

    When do you win?
    The 25-37% dyed in the wool trumpsters will never see the light of day. It's the 13-25% of independents and Reagan democrats who will flip when they finally see Trump for who he is, a fraud and a traitor. Me? I'm not running for anything. When do you win al all costs? It's the disenfranchised who become disillusioned. Like coal jobs are coming back slowly no with manufacturing. Please.
    You don't get it. They already know he's a "fraud". They voted for a "fraud". They don't care! They will take a genuine "fraud" over any phony politician any day. If the GOP loses the house in 2018, which based on historical norms they should, it will be because the congress is a do-nothing congress that Trump doesn't particularly care for himself. The dems need to run against that congress and not Trump. Focusing on him is a mistake. He distracts democrats, drives them further to the left, and makes them appear insane. Centrist voters will not flock to the dems under that scenerio. Untenable.
    They didn't vote for a fraud. They voted for an outsider and a not a politician. What they're learning, slowly, is that he doesn't have a clue, has no principles and could give two fucks about people like them. As more of his ties to Russia, wasting of tax payer dollars and promises unkept become known, GOP candidates will be guilty by association and they'll try to distance themselves. It's not going to be a 90%-10% sea change, more like 52%-48% for progressive or conservative Dems. The current crop of repubs are joined at the hip with Trump and some or all of his positions. Positions that are untenable in MAGA. Like the ACA. Or driving up oil prices due to reckless international policies or lack thereof. Trump didn't have a landslide electoral college victory as you believe and Hillary still garnered almost 3 million more popular votes, votes that will matter in congressional districts.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
    It was not resoundingly red in the general election and the republicans spent hardly any money comparatively and didn't "fight" until the last minute. The argument can actually be made that Trump's last minute tweets got the GOP base out the polls. You keep repeating it but other then unreliable polls that have already been proven wrong there is just zero evidence of drag. Zero. Your argument for the time being? Untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

    When do you win?
    The 25-37% dyed in the wool trumpsters will never see the light of day. It's the 13-25% of independents and Reagan democrats who will flip when they finally see Trump for who he is, a fraud and a traitor. Me? I'm not running for anything. When do you win al all costs? It's the disenfranchised who become disillusioned. Like coal jobs are coming back slowly no with manufacturing. Please.
    You don't get it. They already know he's a "fraud". They voted for a "fraud". They don't care! They will take a genuine "fraud" over any phony politician any day. If the GOP loses the house in 2018, which based on historical norms they should, it will be because the congress is a do-nothing congress that Trump doesn't particularly care for himself. The dems need to run against that congress and not Trump. Focusing on him is a mistake. He distracts democrats, drives them further to the left, and makes them appear insane. Centrist voters will not flock to the dems under that scenerio. Untenable.
    They didn't vote for a fraud. They voted for an outsider and a not a politician. What they're learning, slowly, is that he doesn't have a clue, has no principles and could give two fucks about people like them. As more of his ties to Russia, wasting of tax payer dollars and promises unkept become known, GOP candidates will be guilty by association and they'll try to distance themselves. It's not going to be a 90%-10% sea change, more like 52%-48% for progressive or conservative Dems. The current crop of repubs are joined at the hip with Trump and some or all of his positions. Positions that are untenable in MAGA. Like the ACA. Or driving up oil prices due to reckless international policies or lack thereof. Trump didn't have a landslide electoral college victory as you believe and Hillary still garnered almost 3 million more popular votes, votes that will matter in congressional districts.
    Those 3 million votes come from congressional districts the democrats already win and those who voted for Trump know he "doesn't have a clue". Again they don't care...they will give him a chance to learn. They would choose that over a broken political elite that claims to "have a clue" and because of their assuredness has zero capacity to learn.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 6,782
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
    It was not resoundingly red in the general election and the republicans spent hardly any money comparatively and didn't "fight" until the last minute. The argument can actually be made that Trump's last minute tweets got the GOP base out the polls. You keep repeating it but other then unreliable polls that have already been proven wrong there is just zero evidence of drag. Zero. Your argument for the time being? Untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

    When do you win?
    The 25-37% dyed in the wool trumpsters will never see the light of day. It's the 13-25% of independents and Reagan democrats who will flip when they finally see Trump for who he is, a fraud and a traitor. Me? I'm not running for anything. When do you win al all costs? It's the disenfranchised who become disillusioned. Like coal jobs are coming back slowly no with manufacturing. Please.
    You don't get it. They already know he's a "fraud". They voted for a "fraud". They don't care! They will take a genuine "fraud" over any phony politician any day. If the GOP loses the house in 2018, which based on historical norms they should, it will be because the congress is a do-nothing congress that Trump doesn't particularly care for himself. The dems need to run against that congress and not Trump. Focusing on him is a mistake. He distracts democrats, drives them further to the left, and makes them appear insane. Centrist voters will not flock to the dems under that scenerio. Untenable.
    They didn't vote for a fraud. They voted for an outsider and a not a politician. What they're learning, slowly, is that he doesn't have a clue, has no principles and could give two fucks about people like them. As more of his ties to Russia, wasting of tax payer dollars and promises unkept become known, GOP candidates will be guilty by association and they'll try to distance themselves. It's not going to be a 90%-10% sea change, more like 52%-48% for progressive or conservative Dems. The current crop of repubs are joined at the hip with Trump and some or all of his positions. Positions that are untenable in MAGA. Like the ACA. Or driving up oil prices due to reckless international policies or lack thereof. Trump didn't have a landslide electoral college victory as you believe and Hillary still garnered almost 3 million more popular votes, votes that will matter in congressional districts.
    Those 3 million votes come from congressional districts the democrats already win and those who voted for Trump know he "doesn't have a clue". Again they don't care...they will give him a chance to learn. They would choose that over a broken political elite that claims to "have a clue" and because of their assuredness has zero capacity to learn.
    That's all well and good, except Trump is quickly morphing into standard Republican. Bannon is a lame duck. He's only still around under the "keep your enemies closer" philosophy. Once he is jettisoned, then all hell breaks loose.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,548
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
    It was not resoundingly red in the general election and the republicans spent hardly any money comparatively and didn't "fight" until the last minute. The argument can actually be made that Trump's last minute tweets got the GOP base out the polls. You keep repeating it but other then unreliable polls that have already been proven wrong there is just zero evidence of drag. Zero. Your argument for the time being? Untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

    When do you win?
    The 25-37% dyed in the wool trumpsters will never see the light of day. It's the 13-25% of independents and Reagan democrats who will flip when they finally see Trump for who he is, a fraud and a traitor. Me? I'm not running for anything. When do you win al all costs? It's the disenfranchised who become disillusioned. Like coal jobs are coming back slowly no with manufacturing. Please.
    You don't get it. They already know he's a "fraud". They voted for a "fraud". They don't care! They will take a genuine "fraud" over any phony politician any day. If the GOP loses the house in 2018, which based on historical norms they should, it will be because the congress is a do-nothing congress that Trump doesn't particularly care for himself. The dems need to run against that congress and not Trump. Focusing on him is a mistake. He distracts democrats, drives them further to the left, and makes them appear insane. Centrist voters will not flock to the dems under that scenerio. Untenable.
    They didn't vote for a fraud. They voted for an outsider and a not a politician. What they're learning, slowly, is that he doesn't have a clue, has no principles and could give two fucks about people like them. As more of his ties to Russia, wasting of tax payer dollars and promises unkept become known, GOP candidates will be guilty by association and they'll try to distance themselves. It's not going to be a 90%-10% sea change, more like 52%-48% for progressive or conservative Dems. The current crop of repubs are joined at the hip with Trump and some or all of his positions. Positions that are untenable in MAGA. Like the ACA. Or driving up oil prices due to reckless international policies or lack thereof. Trump didn't have a landslide electoral college victory as you believe and Hillary still garnered almost 3 million more popular votes, votes that will matter in congressional districts.
    Those 3 million votes come from congressional districts the democrats already win and those who voted for Trump know he "doesn't have a clue". Again they don't care...they will give him a chance to learn. They would choose that over a broken political elite that claims to "have a clue" and because of their assuredness has zero capacity to learn.
    That's all well and good, except Trump is quickly morphing into standard Republican. Bannon is a lame duck. He's only still around under the "keep your enemies closer" philosophy. Once he is jettisoned, then all hell breaks loose.
    Now this could absolutely be true. I personally like "standard republican trump" and had a feeling with learning he would eventually get there but will the "bannon wing" accept it? I'm not sure. The jury is still out on what percentage of his supporters are from that wing. I don't think it is a large percentage but it could still be an electorally significant percentage. Those voters wouldn't switch though...they would just stay home.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 6,789
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
    It was not resoundingly red in the general election and the republicans spent hardly any money comparatively and didn't "fight" until the last minute. The argument can actually be made that Trump's last minute tweets got the GOP base out the polls. You keep repeating it but other then unreliable polls that have already been proven wrong there is just zero evidence of drag. Zero. Your argument for the time being? Untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

    When do you win?
    The 25-37% dyed in the wool trumpsters will never see the light of day. It's the 13-25% of independents and Reagan democrats who will flip when they finally see Trump for who he is, a fraud and a traitor. Me? I'm not running for anything. When do you win al all costs? It's the disenfranchised who become disillusioned. Like coal jobs are coming back slowly no with manufacturing. Please.
    You don't get it. They already know he's a "fraud". They voted for a "fraud". They don't care! They will take a genuine "fraud" over any phony politician any day. If the GOP loses the house in 2018, which based on historical norms they should, it will be because the congress is a do-nothing congress that Trump doesn't particularly care for himself. The dems need to run against that congress and not Trump. Focusing on him is a mistake. He distracts democrats, drives them further to the left, and makes them appear insane. Centrist voters will not flock to the dems under that scenerio. Untenable.
    They didn't vote for a fraud. They voted for an outsider and a not a politician. What they're learning, slowly, is that he doesn't have a clue, has no principles and could give two fucks about people like them. As more of his ties to Russia, wasting of tax payer dollars and promises unkept become known, GOP candidates will be guilty by association and they'll try to distance themselves. It's not going to be a 90%-10% sea change, more like 52%-48% for progressive or conservative Dems. The current crop of repubs are joined at the hip with Trump and some or all of his positions. Positions that are untenable in MAGA. Like the ACA. Or driving up oil prices due to reckless international policies or lack thereof. Trump didn't have a landslide electoral college victory as you believe and Hillary still garnered almost 3 million more popular votes, votes that will matter in congressional districts.
    Those 3 million votes come from congressional districts the democrats already win and those who voted for Trump know he "doesn't have a clue". Again they don't care...they will give him a chance to learn. They would choose that over a broken political elite that claims to "have a clue" and because of their assuredness has zero capacity to learn.
    That's all well and good, except Trump is quickly morphing into standard Republican. Bannon is a lame duck. He's only still around under the "keep your enemies closer" philosophy. Once he is jettisoned, then all hell breaks loose.
    Now this could absolutely be true. I personally like "standard republican trump" and had a feeling with learning he would eventually get there but will the "bannon wing" accept it? I'm not sure. The jury is still out on what percentage of his supporters are from that wing. I don't think it is a large percentage but it could still be an electorally significant percentage. Those voters wouldn't switch though...they would just stay home.
    You really think the Bannon wing of his support is the minority? No way. It's the vast majority. Common sense republicans during the primary were choosing literally anyone but Trump time and time again.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,497
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Lost barely would be more accurate.
    He only got a slightly larger share of the vote then Hillary and the sum of the republican vote topped 50%. Considering the amount of money that was spent on a special election that is a big defeat. He needed to win it yesterday while republicans were divided..not wait until a head to head in June.
    In a resoundingly red district. That the republicans had to fight as hard as they did for both of those seats in overwhelming red states and districts shows the drag effect trump is having. It's only going to get worse between now and 11/18, particularly as more Russia ties information becomes public. And it will. Untenable. Also when nothing has changed for the average joe in middle America.
    It was not resoundingly red in the general election and the republicans spent hardly any money comparatively and didn't "fight" until the last minute. The argument can actually be made that Trump's last minute tweets got the GOP base out the polls. You keep repeating it but other then unreliable polls that have already been proven wrong there is just zero evidence of drag. Zero. Your argument for the time being? Untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

    When do you win?
    The 25-37% dyed in the wool trumpsters will never see the light of day. It's the 13-25% of independents and Reagan democrats who will flip when they finally see Trump for who he is, a fraud and a traitor. Me? I'm not running for anything. When do you win al all costs? It's the disenfranchised who become disillusioned. Like coal jobs are coming back slowly no with manufacturing. Please.
    You don't get it. They already know he's a "fraud". They voted for a "fraud". They don't care! They will take a genuine "fraud" over any phony politician any day. If the GOP loses the house in 2018, which based on historical norms they should, it will be because the congress is a do-nothing congress that Trump doesn't particularly care for himself. The dems need to run against that congress and not Trump. Focusing on him is a mistake. He distracts democrats, drives them further to the left, and makes them appear insane. Centrist voters will not flock to the dems under that scenerio. Untenable.
    They didn't vote for a fraud. They voted for an outsider and a not a politician. What they're learning, slowly, is that he doesn't have a clue, has no principles and could give two fucks about people like them. As more of his ties to Russia, wasting of tax payer dollars and promises unkept become known, GOP candidates will be guilty by association and they'll try to distance themselves. It's not going to be a 90%-10% sea change, more like 52%-48% for progressive or conservative Dems. The current crop of repubs are joined at the hip with Trump and some or all of his positions. Positions that are untenable in MAGA. Like the ACA. Or driving up oil prices due to reckless international policies or lack thereof. Trump didn't have a landslide electoral college victory as you believe and Hillary still garnered almost 3 million more popular votes, votes that will matter in congressional districts.
    Those 3 million votes come from congressional districts the democrats already win and those who voted for Trump know he "doesn't have a clue". Again they don't care...they will give him a chance to learn. They would choose that over a broken political elite that claims to "have a clue" and because of their assuredness has zero capacity to learn.
    Trump isn't running in 2018. His agenda is via congress. Untenable.

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    This is the result of Trump's brilliance. Mockery and derision from our ally.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/asia/south-korea-worries-donald-trump-uss-carl-vinson/index.html

    Good luck with Trump at the helm. What could possibly go wrong?
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    THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Thank you very much. What a great day it is to be with all of our friends at the White House. We celebrate the Super Bowl New England Patriots, world champions, Super Bowl champions -- champions, period -- and their historic win. (Applause.) And they are champions.

    Before we get started, I want to acknowledge some special guests. We're proud to be joined by seven wounded warriors who have bravely served and sacrificed for our nation. Specialist Cameron Greenstreet. (Applause.) Staff Sergeant Frederick Manning. (Applause.) Specialist James Matthews. (Applause.) Sergeant Christopher McGinnis. (Applause.) Specialist Stephanie Morris. (Applause.) Sergeant Major James Watson. (Applause.) Staff Sergeant Sheldon Warner. (Applause.)

    Special people. And America is very blessed to have you with us. Thank you.

    The New England Patriots are big supporters of our military and America’s veterans. Joe Cardona -- where’s Joe? Where is Joe? There he is, in his beautiful navy -- (applause) -- thank you, Joe. Serves in the Navy Reserves and is a graduate of the Naval Academy. Coach Belichick is the son of a Navy veteran. And Bob -- that’s Bob Kraft -- he’s becoming a pretty famous guy for winning, I’ll tell you that. Between him and Belichick, wow. You do so much to support our military. Bob has been my friend for a long time, and he wants to support our military.

    So what a group of champions, all of them. And, Bob, I want to commend you for building such an extraordinary organization. Five Super Bowl victories since 2002 -- really unbelievable. And I’ll say this right now: George Steinbrenner, as you know, was a very good friend of mine. And George was a great champ too, but there was a little more turmoil, right? A little more turmoil in his victories. And that’s okay. He was another great one.

    Since Bob bought the Patriots in 1994, they’ve won more division titles, conference championships and Super Bowl wins than any other team. No team has been this good for this long. (Applause.) He’s built a culture dedicated to winning. And he started it with his coach -- and I want to tell you, that is some special man -- it’s called the Patriot Way. And that really starts with Coach Belichick.

    And I want to thank all of you for being with us. The Patriots are an incredible organization, and this Super Bowl victory was a complete team effort. That’s the beauty of what they do -- they win as a team. (Applause.) With your backs against the wall, and the pundits -- good old pundits. Boy, they’re wrong a lot, aren’t they -- (laughter) -- saying you couldn’t do it, the game was over, you pulled off the greatest Super Bowl comeback of all time, one of the greatest comebacks of all time -- but the greatest Super Bowl comeback of all time. And that was just special. I think I looked at odds and they gave you less than one half of 1 percent of winning the game.

    And then the coach said, let’s go for three. He’s losing by so much, he said, let’s go for three. And I say, what is he doing? That was a great decision, Coach. (Laughter.) I tell him that all the time.

    The fourth down conversion by Danny Amendola -- where’s Danny? Where’s Danny? (Applause.) Way to go, Danny. The big sack by Trey Flowers. Big sack. Where’s Trey? Come on, put your hand up, Trey. See, he’s shy, a little bit. (Applause.) You weren’t shy when you hit that guy, were you? You weren’t shy about -- he didn’t mind hitting. Thank you, Trey. Great job. The incredible catch by Julian Edelman. (Applause.) What a catch. We all said, no, that ball was dropped. Isn’t that good? You know, in the old days, they might have said that was dropped. Those replays are good. You’re starting to like the replay, right? (Laughter.) Great going, Julian.

    I think of guys like Marcus Cannon and the offensive line. Marcus? (Applause.) That’s some line. Or Matt Slater, who was awarded the 2017 Bart Starr Award for the character and leadership he has shown both on and off the field. Malcolm Mitchell -- (applause) -- it’s true. (Applause.) Malcolm Mitchell, who, as a rookie, handled the pressure of the Super Bowl like an absolute true veteran. Way to go, Malcolm. (Applause.) Good job.

    Or Nate Ebner, who played on our Olympic rugby team last summer. Pretty good athlete, right? And in Brazil -- he was in Brazil playing and doing really well, and is an All-Pro special team guy and player. So, Nate, congratulations. Where’s Nate? (Applause.) Which is the tougher sport, Nate, football or rugby?

    MR. EBNER: I don’t know. (Laughter.)

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    THE PRESIDENT: I had a feeling you might say that. But everyone played a role, and everybody played as champions. It was the first overtime game in Super Bowl history, and it ended with a legendary victory for this proud franchise and for these absolutely terrific players and coaches.

    You had the best record in football with 14 wins and only two losses. And that doesn’t happen by accident. It takes hard work, dedication, and a commitment by every member of the team to work together in pursuit of the ultimate goal, a goal that very few people achieve. And you’ve achieved it five times, many of you, and our coach and our owner have achieved it five times. Great, great talents, great, great people.

    Whether you’re trying to win a Super Bowl or rebuild our country, as Coach Belichick would say, there are no days off. And just a quick story about the coach. So I had won the primaries, and I’m now in this rather heated election that a few of you have read about. And he wrote me this beautiful letter after the primaries. "Congratulations," he said all sorts of things that were really good. I mean, it was really a beautiful letter. And it was very close to going before the election. And I called up, and I said, Coach, do you mind if I read the letter tonight to a stadium full of people in a very, very big and important state? And he said, "You know what? I’d rather not have you do that. Could you send it back to me? I’m going to give you another one." I said, no that’s okay. "Nope, I want to give you another one." Now, immediately to me, that means he’s going to tone it down because what he said was so nice. And you know what he did? He toned it way up. It was much better. It was much better. He made that the greatest letter, and I did very well in that state. Thank you, Coach. That was very good.

    But, you know, he’s just a very special guy. And he’s tough. Is he tough, fellas, or a nice guy? Huh? A little tough, right? He’s tough, he’s smart, and he’s got a great heart.

    So the Patriot coaches and these great players have delivered iconic American sports moments that will last forever. We’re going to watch that game over and over and over. That game will last forever. Five Super Bowl wins in the era of free agency, which is really, really tough. What an achievement.

    So again, congratulations to Super Bowl Champion New England Patriots. And with that, I’d like to ask a very special and talented man, and a great friend of mine for a long time, Bob Kraft, to say a few words. Thank you all very much. (Applause.)

    MR. KRAFT: Thank you, Mr. President. It’s a true honor to be here for the fifth time celebrating a world championship. And every time that we have the privilege of coming here to the White House, I think about the long odds that were faced by our country’s forefathers who fought for our freedom and independence.

    Overcoming long odds through hard work, perseverance, and, most importantly, mental toughness is the foundation of everything that is great about this country. I am proud that the first time we came here as a team after winning a championship as 14-point underdogs but infinitely more important was it was the season of 9/11, 2001, at a time in which our nation showed its mental toughness to rally together and to rebound from an unthinkable tragedy.

    This year’s championship was achieved after falling behind by 25 points -- a deficit so great that in the 97-year history of the NFL -- over 20,000 games -- that deficit had only been overcome seven times. In that same year, a very good friend of mine for over 25 years, a man who is mentally tough and hardworking as anybody I know, launched a campaign for the presidency against 16 career politicians, facing odds almost as long as we faced in the fourth quarter. He persevered to become the 45th President of the United States. (Applause.)

    It’s a distinct honor for us to celebrate what was unequivocally our sweetest championship with a very good friend and somebody whose mental toughness and strength I greatly admire. And I would like to call upon our coach to say a few words. But before, we’d like to jointly present --

    (The President is presented with a jersey.) (Applause.)

    A Super Bowl LI Championship jersey. (Applause.)

    MR. BELICHICK: Thank you. On behalf of the team, the organization, I just want to thank the President and his great staff for wonderful day, a wonderful opportunity here. We’ve had the great privilege to be here several times, but this one -- the way we were treated and the opportunities to be in the Oval Office, to meet with the President, to see the inside of the White House has just been fabulous.

    So along with the parade, the ring ceremony -- as a team, the opportunity and the privilege of coming to the White House is just one of the great things about winning the Super Bowl. And so we’re very privileged to be here, and we thank the President and his great staff for the hospitality that they have shown us.

    Also, our great Patriot fans here and throughout Patriot Nation, thank you for coming out today. (Applause.) As Mr. Kraft said, this is really a special team. These guys work incredibly hard all year. They put all the work in in advance when we didn’t have anything to show for it. And then as the year went on -- you know, a total of 17 victories. They were all tough. These guys are mentally tough. They’re physically tough. They love to compete and they knew how to compete under pressure, and that’s probably when we played our best football as we saw in overtime in the Super Bowl.

    So I’m incredibly proud and honored to coach this group with our coaching staff. Our coaching staff did a tremendous job this year. I’m so appreciative of them. And then this day really is -- you know, it’s a great day for us, it’s a thrill to be here, and we appreciate your support, and we appreciate, again, the great treatment that we received from the President and his staff. Thank you very much.

    And we have one other presentation to make. Super Bowl LI helmet. (Applause.)

    THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, everybody. Thank you very much. (Applause.)
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  • He has problems sounding intelligent... doesn't he?

    Gawd he blathers.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 6,782

    He has problems sounding intelligent... doesn't he?

    Gawd he blathers.

    He don't speak good like me and you.
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,271
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    Dems failed in Kansas and are now failing in Georgia. Great job Karen Handel! It is now Hollywood vs. Georgia on June 20th.


    This guy can't be anything but a bully or divisive, can he? All he does is bad mouth people that doesn't like him. It's always a "Vs." situation with him.



    I'm pretty sure it was the democrats who tried to make the special election about Trump...they tried to nationalize it in order to get over 50%...and lost...bigly.
    Once again in la la land, the person who got the most votes is the 'loser'

    Our good friend Nate Silver says: "These were bad results for Republicans."

    fun fact I learned from PBS last night: 9/10 of the most educated districts in the US are represented by Democrats. The 6th in Georgia is #10 on that list.
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