** THE IMPENDING IMPEACHMENT OR RESIGNATION OF DONALD J TRUMP **

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    “I’ll meet with anyone.”Cliffy6745 said:
    And that pinky ring on Ghouliani’s pinky, is that the one ring that binds them all?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    Just. A. Matter. Of. Time. Before Team Trump Treason takes a bite of sweet tasting fruit from the poisonous tree.

    ”No collusion,” “collusion is not a crime,” “I don’t know any Russians,” and “I have nothing to hide.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060

    The analogy to Watergate is hardly a stretch. For all the Trump defenders claiming that “no collusion” (no conspiracy to seek help from a foreign government and/or defraud the United States) renders the entire Russia investigation illegitimate, we are reminded that President Richard Nixon did not break into the Watergate offices of the Democratic National Committee. The High Crimes and Misdemeanors listed in the Nixon articles of impeachment had to do with Nixon’s conduct after the break-in.

    Specifically Article I stated that the offenses included:

    1. Making false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;
    2. Withholding relevant and material evidence or information from lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;
    3. Approving, condoning, acquiescing in, and counselling witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted judicial and congressional proceedings;
    4. Interfering or endeavoring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the office of Watergate Special Prosecution Force, and Congressional Committees;
    5. Approving, condoning, and acquiescing in, the surreptitious payment of substantial sums of money for the purpose of obtaining the silence or influencing the testimony of witnesses, potential witnesses or individuals who participated in such unlawful entry and other illegal activities;
    6. Endeavoring to misuse the Central Intelligence Agency, an agency of the United States;
    7. Disseminating information received from officers of the Department of Justice of the United States to subjects of investigations conducted by lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States, for the purpose of aiding and assisting such subjects in their attempts to avoid criminal liability;
    8. Making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States into believing that a thorough and complete investigation had been conducted with respect to allegations of misconduct on the part of personnel of the executive branch of the United States and personnel of the Committee for the Re-election of the President, and that there was no involvement of such personnel in such misconduct: or
    9. Endeavoring to cause prospective defendants, and individuals duly tried and convicted, to expect favored treatment and consideration in return for their silence or false testimony, or rewarding individuals for their silence or false testimony. [Emphasis added.]

    One gets to a similar list if one concludes the following were intended to halt and/or curtail the Russia investigation and prosecution of Trump’s cohort: the firing of former FBI director James B. Comey, constant threats to fire special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, spread of deliberately false conspiracy theories to smear investigators, dissemination of a phony rationale for firing Comey, an attempt to stop the prosecution of former national security adviser Michael Flynn, authorized release of a known-to-be false memo from Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) attacking the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Court warrant, demands that Attorney General Jeff Sessions not recuse himself (and then un-recuse himself after he did) and shut down the investigation,and the creation of a phony story to explain the Trump Tower meeting. (I’m not even including Trump’s possible knowledge and assent before the Trump Tower meeting.) That is all quite apart from any scheme to hide payments to women in the waning days of the presidential campaign.

    In short, even without firing Mueller and/or Rosenstein, does anyone think prosecutors won’t be able to put together a plausible, even compelling case, for obstruction of justice?


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    Bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger.

    “This Thing Has Tentacles We Have No Idea About”: Mueller’s American Target List Is Becoming Clearer - Vanity Fair https://apple.news/AVHxxpZg6QWWfdW8zMl6l5w
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment. Go get ‘em Team Mueller!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/follow-the-russian-money-and-tighten-your-seatbelt/2018/08/03/a0397c40-967f-11e8-a679-b09212fb69c2_story.html
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,674
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    Totally legitimate meeting to get dirt on an opponent, despite him originally saying it was only about adoptions...

    And, golly, if it’s totally legit and legal, why oh why must you feel the need to tell us you knew nothing about it? 

    Junior...set to get thrown under the bus





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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 8,874
    Totally legitimate meeting to get dirt on an opponent, despite him originally saying it was only about adoptions...

    And, golly, if it’s totally legit and legal, why oh why must you feel the need to tell us you knew nothing about it? 

    Junior...set to get thrown under the bus





    Wait... wasn't it about adoptions?
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 3,351
    2018
    Totally legitimate meeting to get dirt on an opponent, despite him originally saying it was only about adoptions...

    And, golly, if it’s totally legit and legal, why oh why must you feel the need to tell us you knew nothing about it? 

    Junior...set to get thrown under the bus






    Sends his son down in flames.  wow.


    I liked this response.

    "I...worked on this investigation for over a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out." - Robert Mueller. Probably.

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    Totally legitimate meeting to get dirt on an opponent, despite him originally saying it was only about adoptions...

    And, golly, if it’s totally legit and legal, why oh why must you feel the need to tell us you knew nothing about it? 

    Junior...set to get thrown under the bus





    Wait... wasn't it about adoptions?
    And don’t forget that Team Trump Treason dictated the statement that Donny, Jr. read the next day or released to the press. Obstruction meet justice.

    All disappearing headlines and sweet fruit from the poisonous tree. Suckers.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    Hey but the Manafort trial doesn’t matter and nobody cares!
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 8,874
    Hey but the Manafort trial doesn’t matter and nobody cares!
    Stop talking in your unsung voice!
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,674
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    "If you and I fall into bad moral habits, we can harm our families, our employers and our friends. The President of the United States can incinerate the planet. Seriously, the very idea that we ought to have at or less than the same moral demands placed on the Chief Executive that we place on our next door neighbor is ludicrous and dangerous.

    "Throughout our history, we have seen the presidency as the repository of all of our highest hopes and ideals and values. To demand less is to do an injustice to the blood that bought our freedoms."

    "Further, the Presidents (sic) repeated lies to the American people in this matter compound the case against him as they demonstrate his failure to protect the institution of the presidency as the 'inspiring supreme symbol of all that is highest in our American ideals.'"

    "Leaders affect the lives of families far beyond their own 'private life'. In the Bible story of Esther we are told of a king who was charged to put right his own household because there would be 'no end of disrespect and discord' among the families of the kingdom if he failed to do so. In a day when reckless extramarital sexual activity is manifesting itself in our staggering rates of illegitimacy and divorce, now more than ever, America needs to be able to look to her First Family as role models of all that we have been and can be again."

    "If our leaders flinch at this responsibility, they would do well to heed the Proverb 'if a ruler listens to lies, all his officials become wicked.'"  Our leaders must either act to restore the luster and dignity of the institution of the Presidency or we can be certain that this is only the beginning of an even more difficult time for our land. For the nation to move on, the President must move out."

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    "If you and I fall into bad moral habits, we can harm our families, our employers and our friends. The President of the United States can incinerate the planet. Seriously, the very idea that we ought to have at or less than the same moral demands placed on the Chief Executive that we place on our next door neighbor is ludicrous and dangerous.

    "Throughout our history, we have seen the presidency as the repository of all of our highest hopes and ideals and values. To demand less is to do an injustice to the blood that bought our freedoms."

    "Further, the Presidents (sic) repeated lies to the American people in this matter compound the case against him as they demonstrate his failure to protect the institution of the presidency as the 'inspiring supreme symbol of all that is highest in our American ideals.'"

    "Leaders affect the lives of families far beyond their own 'private life'. In the Bible story of Esther we are told of a king who was charged to put right his own household because there would be 'no end of disrespect and discord' among the families of the kingdom if he failed to do so. In a day when reckless extramarital sexual activity is manifesting itself in our staggering rates of illegitimacy and divorce, now more than ever, America needs to be able to look to her First Family as role models of all that we have been and can be again."

    "If our leaders flinch at this responsibility, they would do well to heed the Proverb 'if a ruler listens to lies, all his officials become wicked.'"  Our leaders must either act to restore the luster and dignity of the institution of the Presidency or we can be certain that this is only the beginning of an even more difficult time for our land. For the nation to move on, the President must move out."

    --Mike Pence.
    Bahahahahahahahaha, that doesn’t apply anymore. Just ask Kavanaugh. Silly. There’s not a principled one amongst them.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 498
    "THE FIELD"
    No collusion.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    “There was no collusion (repeat 7Xs),” “I don’t know any Russians,” “I have nothing to hide,” “We did nothing wrong,” and “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    Sure Team Trump Treason, sure. Suckers.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,040
    "THE FIELD"
    “There was no collusion (repeat 7Xs),” “I don’t know any Russians,” “I have nothing to hide,” “We did nothing wrong,” and “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    Sure Team Trump Treason, sure. Suckers.
    He is not a crook.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,372
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    OnWis97 said:
    “There was no collusion (repeat 7Xs),” “I don’t know any Russians,” “I have nothing to hide,” “We did nothing wrong,” and “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    Sure Team Trump Treason, sure. Suckers.
    He is not a crook.
    lol yeah ok but he's def a sexual predator and a compulsive liar so yeah not a crook ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,040
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    "THE FIELD"
    OnWis97 said:
    “There was no collusion (repeat 7Xs),” “I don’t know any Russians,” “I have nothing to hide,” “We did nothing wrong,” and “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

    Sure Team Trump Treason, sure. Suckers.
    He is not a crook.
    lol yeah ok but he's def a sexual predator and a compulsive liar so yeah not a crook ...
    I was drawing a parallel between:

    "Witch hunt!" - Donald Trump.
    "I am not a crook." - Richard Nixon.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 498
    "THE FIELD"
    ^yeah but, where are the Dems since POTUS* admitted to treasonous conspiracy? It's been like crickets this week.

    When the Rs were the minority party, they flexed as much muscle as they could to shut the govt down multiple times, in order to....reduce the deficit

    Something they care so much about, they practically doubled it as soon as they regained govt control.

    And we now have a POTUS* who this week admitted to attempted conspiracy with a foreign govt military spy organization to take down a political adversary, and where the hell are the Democrats?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    ^yeah but, where are the Dems since POTUS* admitted to treasonous conspiracy? It's been like crickets this week.

    When the Rs were the minority party, they flexed as much muscle as they could to shut the govt down multiple times, in order to....reduce the deficit

    Something they care so much about, they practically doubled it as soon as they regained govt control.

    And we now have a POTUS* who this week admitted to attempted conspiracy with a foreign govt military spy organization to take down a political adversary, and where the hell are the Democrats?
    Waiting for Team Mueller's subpoena of Team Trump Treason and his subsequent report. Retake the house at the midterms and it’s a whole new ballgame. One that Team Trump Treason loses and loses bigley.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,247
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    ^yeah but, where are the Dems since POTUS* admitted to treasonous conspiracy? It's been like crickets this week.

    When the Rs were the minority party, they flexed as much muscle as they could to shut the govt down multiple times, in order to....reduce the deficit

    Something they care so much about, they practically doubled it as soon as they regained govt control.

    And we now have a POTUS* who this week admitted to attempted conspiracy with a foreign govt military spy organization to take down a political adversary, and where the hell are the Democrats?
    Waiting for Team Mueller's subpoena of Team Trump Treason and his subsequent report. Retake the house at the midterms and it’s a whole new ballgame. One that Team Trump Treason loses and loses bigley.
    if mueller is negotiating with Trump's legal team about interviewing him, a subpoena is not coming any time soon. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    ^yeah but, where are the Dems since POTUS* admitted to treasonous conspiracy? It's been like crickets this week.

    When the Rs were the minority party, they flexed as much muscle as they could to shut the govt down multiple times, in order to....reduce the deficit

    Something they care so much about, they practically doubled it as soon as they regained govt control.

    And we now have a POTUS* who this week admitted to attempted conspiracy with a foreign govt military spy organization to take down a political adversary, and where the hell are the Democrats?
    Waiting for Team Mueller's subpoena of Team Trump Treason and his subsequent report. Retake the house at the midterms and it’s a whole new ballgame. One that Team Trump Treason loses and loses bigley.
    if mueller is negotiating with Trump's legal team about interviewing him, a subpoena is not coming any time soon. 
    A subpoena may come as a result of Ghouliani’s ridiculous demands to the scope and of wrapping this up by September 1st. It’s clear Team Trump Treason is not interested nor going to sit down with Team Mueller. They’re going political while Team Mueller remains true to his charge, determining if there was criminality.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,674
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    I bet subpoena comes by end of the month
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    I bet subpoena comes by end of the month
    Me thinks a little sooner. Team Mueller ain’t fucking around and he’s not playing politics. He’s an ex combat marine who served in Vietnam. Can’t wait for Team Trump Treason to attack his character.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 2,399
    either way you lose ... Pence is a fucking holy roller from hell ...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    either way you lose ... Pence is a fucking holy roller from hell ...
    Pence isn’t reelectable, is at least capable of speaking in full paragraphs and isn’t putin on the ritz’s boy. A democrat house can keep the check on him until he’s out. At this point, I almost prefer Pence.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 2,399
    either way you lose ... Pence is a fucking holy roller from hell ...
    Pence isn’t reelectable, is at least capable of speaking in full paragraphs and isn’t putin on the ritz’s boy. A democrat house can keep the check on him until he’s out. At this point, I almost prefer Pence.
    Is there a 3rd option?   ;)
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,040
    "THE FIELD"
    either way you lose ... Pence is a fucking holy roller from hell ...
    Pence isn’t reelectable, is at least capable of speaking in full paragraphs and isn’t putin on the ritz’s boy. A democrat house can keep the check on him until he’s out. At this point, I almost prefer Pence.
    Hopefully, Pence would be able to reverse the normalization of presidents acting like buffoonish twitter trolls.  His support would be less cultish and I think the threat of going full authoritarian and eliminating checks and balances almost immediately vanishes.  

    While Pence isn't appreciably better on issues (and is even worse on a few) there's much more at stake right now and the Republic's prognosis would improve immediately after Trump is gone and replaced by Pence.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,247
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    either way you lose ... Pence is a fucking holy roller from hell ...
    Pence isn’t reelectable, is at least capable of speaking in full paragraphs and isn’t putin on the ritz’s boy. A democrat house can keep the check on him until he’s out. At this point, I almost prefer Pence.
    Is there a 3rd option?   ;)
    President Huckabee Sanders. 

    *shudder* 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,060
    “Disclosure of new information on an ongoing investigation.” Gee, I thought the headlines had disappeared and that this story would dry up and blow away as dust into the dustbin of history? Further, ripened sweet fruit from the poisonous tree? Brilliant brilliance brilliantly in its brilliancy.

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