Recent Wave of Immigrant Arrests - What Does it Mean?

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 3,995
    my2hands said:

    PJPOWER said:

    unsung said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    At the point when the system doesn't create poverty and an outrageous imbalance in the distribution of wealth... so essentially, when there are no more poor people. Does that work for you?
    Stop giving them incentives to remain poor then.
    So you're saying there's living wage jobs for everyone and those jobs are sitting unfilled?
    Word is that there is about to be roughly 10,000 career opportunities here:
    https://www.ice.gov/careers
    cool... 10,000 government jobs and a $30,000,000,000 wall....

    brought to you by small government fiscally conservative republicans? lol
    They'll probably be doing a little hiring to mix the concrete too, lol. Job openings for everyone!
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    I've read about the DHS memos, but I haven't seen them. Anyone have a link for the text?
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    Ms. Haiku said:

    I've read about the DHS memos, but I haven't seen them. Anyone have a link for the text?

    I was looking for them earlier as well. Couldn't find a link.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-trump-was-right.html





















    Two leading Swedish politicians have a message for President Trump’s critics: He’s right.

    Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, both leaders of the Sweden Democrats, penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Wednesday supporting Trump’s characterization of a Muslim immigrant-led crime crisis in Sweden.

    “Mr. Trump did not exaggerate Sweden’s current problems,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote. “If anything, he understated them.”
    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 7,228

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-trump-was-right.html





















    Two leading Swedish politicians have a message for President Trump’s critics: He’s right.

    Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, both leaders of the Sweden Democrats, penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Wednesday supporting Trump’s characterization of a Muslim immigrant-led crime crisis in Sweden.

    “Mr. Trump did not exaggerate Sweden’s current problems,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote. “If anything, he understated them.”

    http://www.thelocal.se/20170223/minister-morgan-johansson-blasts-sweden-democrats-wall-street-journal-op-ed-theyre-lying-about-sweden

    Sweden's justice and migration minister has accused anti-immigration party leaders of lying about Sweden after they wrote in the Wall Street Journal that Donald Trump was right in his comments about immigration.
    He spoke hours after Sweden Democrat bosses Jimmie Åkesson and Mattias Karlsson wrote in an opinion piece published in the Wall Street Journal on Thursday that "Mr Trump did not exaggerate Sweden's current problems" when he falsely suggested that immigration had sparked a rising crime wave in the country.

    "If anything, he understated them. Sweden took in about 275,000 asylum-seekers from 2014-16 – more per capita than any other European country," they wrote, adding that "riots and social unrest have become a part of everyday life" and vowing to "make Sweden safe again".

    "For the sake of the American people, with whom we share so many strong historical and cultural ties, we can only hope that the leaders in Washington won’t make the same mistakes that our socialist and liberal politicians did."

    Sweden's justice and migration minister Morgan Johansson told The Local on Thursday that the government would submit its own opinion piece to the newspaper to counter the claims.

    "I note that it has gone so far that the Sweden Democrats are intentionally harming Sweden by lying about how things are. We can't let that go unchallenged. They're painting a picture of a country characterized by violence, when it's the exact opposite. Not to mention the risk of being the victim of deadly violence in the US is four times higher than in Sweden," he said.

    A total of 112 people were victims of deadly violence in Sweden in 2015, according to the National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå). Deadly violence has decreased since the 1990s.

    Åkesson and Karlsson wrote their opinion piece following a report on Fox News on crime and immigration in Sweden, which President Donald Trump said he had based his view of Sweden on.

    "I would say that perhaps the US president ought to be a bit more critical of his sources and not get all his news from reports on Fox News," commented Johansson, but refrained from further criticism.

    Riddled with factual inaccuracies (some of which were debunked by The Local), filmmaker Ami Horowitz' report on the US network was heavily criticized by many Swedes earlier this week, including two police officers featured in the video who said they had been misled and their quotes taken out of context.

    "You should know that despite this kind of thing the image of Sweden is very positive abroad – it is no coincidence that we were elected onto the UN Security Council with a large majority," said Johansson.

    "But every now and then these urban myths are spread in far-right media."

    Sweden is not a country without its problems. For example, more than one in five of the foreign-born population is unemployed and it struggles with a critical housing shortage. But Johansson argued that cherry-picking statistics and exaggerating the issues faced by the nation risked harming the debate.

    "We have problems like all countries that we have to deal with and it is then important to talk about them in a nuanced way," he said.

    In their opinion piece, the Sweden Democrat leaders also commented on anti-Semitism in Malmö, a much-debated topic in the past few years. "Jews in Malmö are threatened, harassed and assaulted in the streets. Many have left the city, becoming internal refugees in their country of birth," they wrote.

    However, Freddy Gellberg, the chairman of the Jewish Association, criticized the portrayal.

    "Anti-Semitism in Malmö is a serious enough problem without, like the Sweden Democrats, grossly exaggerating and calling Jews moving from Malmö 'internal refugees'. Jews move from Malmö for various reasons and anti-Semitism is one of them," Gellberg told public broadcaster SVT.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,149

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-trump-was-right.html





















    Two leading Swedish politicians have a message for President Trump’s critics: He’s right.

    Per Jimmie Akesson and Mattias Karlsson, both leaders of the Sweden Democrats, penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Wednesday supporting Trump’s characterization of a Muslim immigrant-led crime crisis in Sweden.

    “Mr. Trump did not exaggerate Sweden’s current problems,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote. “If anything, he understated them.”

    this is a prime example of not properly researching and not thinking for yourself.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?
    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DCPosts: 6,912
    mfc2006 said:

    Ms. Haiku said:

    I've read about the DHS memos, but I haven't seen them. Anyone have a link for the text?

    I was looking for them earlier as well. Couldn't find a link.
    Found them!

    U.S. Department of Homeland Security Memoradum Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States


    U.S. Department of Homeland Security Memoradum Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,202

    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
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  • so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
    To be honest though... if refugees are creating problems... that is a problem and one no country should feel they 'have' to take on. If the refugees we admitted to Canada began creating chaos... I would not be in favour of more.

    This hasn't been the case and integration has been successful, so I'm speaking hypothetically; however, I can see the Swedish point of view that isn't feeling so strong about immigration. I'd become guarded.

    Accommodating refugees is supposed to be about offering a fresh start. Leave the problems where they were.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,939
    The refugees coming to the US are much better behaved than us white folks who have been here a long time.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
    so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,149

    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
    so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

    you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    edited February 2017

    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
    so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

    you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.
    actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet, believe it of not I don't froth in front of the T.V at night watching Fox...most nights it's the History Channel or Discovery, don't even get me started on the UFO bullshit LOL !!!!

    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,149

    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
    so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

    you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.
    actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet, believe it of not I don't froth in front of the T.V at night watching Fox...most nights it's the History Channel or Discovery, don't even get me started on the UFO bullshit LOL !!!!

    YOUR. LINK. WAS. FROM. FOX. NEWS.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
    so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

    you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.
    actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet, believe it of not I don't froth in front of the T.V at night watching Fox...most nights it's the History Channel or Discovery, don't even get me started on the UFO bullshit LOL !!!!

    YOUR. LINK. WAS. FROM. FOX. NEWS.
    NO SHIT GENIUS.........

    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 10,593

    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
    so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

    you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.
    actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet, believe it of not I don't froth in front of the T.V at night watching Fox...most nights it's the History Channel or Discovery, don't even get me started on the UFO bullshit LOL !!!!

    YOUR. LINK. WAS. FROM. FOX. NEWS.
    That's funny.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,149

    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
    so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

    you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.
    actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet, believe it of not I don't froth in front of the T.V at night watching Fox...most nights it's the History Channel or Discovery, don't even get me started on the UFO bullshit LOL !!!!

    YOUR. LINK. WAS. FROM. FOX. NEWS.
    NO SHIT GENIUS.........

    you said "actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet,"

    but your link ABOUT SWEDEN was from FOX NEWS.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    so everything in Sweden is prosperous and calm with the refugee's ?

    Sweden is consistently ranked within the top ten prosperous nations in the world.

    Is "everything" calm with the refugees? No. "Refugees" are actually people, and people don't tend to be always calm. These are also people coming from terrible strife and have usually lost everything, so why would they be calm? That doesn't mean you let them die there, though.
    so if all the rioting and burning are true then i'st just " people " releasing aggravation from a terrible life they left behind when they moved to Sweden, and the reported increase in rapes and other violent crimes is false as well ? well.....I'm glad they are acclimating so well to their new home land.

    you told me recently to "stop watching CNN" (and I rarely do anyway, I don't have cable, haven't watched it in weeks). maybe get out of your bubble and stop watching/reading Fox news. there have been a few rays of hope at that network recently, but by and large, it's fear-based "reporting". and yes, reporting is in quotation marks for a reason.
    actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet, believe it of not I don't froth in front of the T.V at night watching Fox...most nights it's the History Channel or Discovery, don't even get me started on the UFO bullshit LOL !!!!

    YOUR. LINK. WAS. FROM. FOX. NEWS.
    NO SHIT GENIUS.........

    you said "actually I haven't seen any news from Fox on Sweden yet,"

    but your link ABOUT SWEDEN was from FOX NEWS.
    you're right, I apologize, what I ment was I don't watch fox news that often and really watch local news more.

    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield CountyPosts: 3,299
    it's all #FAKENEWS, lol
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  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western AustraliaPosts: 3,898
    rssesq said:

    it's all #FAKENEWS, lol

    Well Said...
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    i_lov_it said:

    rssesq said:

    it's all #FAKENEWS, lol

    Well Said...
    agreed.

    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,149

    i_lov_it said:

    rssesq said:

    it's all #FAKENEWS, lol

    Well Said...
    agreed.

    then why are you constantly quoting MSM for your points?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,274
    edited March 2017
    So this happened: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4274138/ICE-officials-arrest-Dreamer-22-spoke-media.html

    I think it's clear that her arrest immediately following her speech is no coincidence. Her application was pending. She paid the application fee late because she's a starving student (as many students are, since education is too expensive). I would say this is a prelude to the government blatantly tracking down and arresting dissenters. This woman has been in the USA since she was 7 years old FFS. Some assholes think this arrest is justified because she didn't pay a $500 admin fee on time... yeah, that's worth ruining her life. I thought Trump and ICE were after the criminal illegal immigrants? Well, seems they are also after the productive ones who do and will contribute postiviely to America. All they have to do is speak against Trump. Dissenters beware. Probably won't be long before they try doing it to citizens too.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    i_lov_it said:

    rssesq said:

    it's all #FAKENEWS, lol

    Well Said...
    agreed.

    then why are you constantly quoting MSM for your points?
    MSM ?

    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,149

    i_lov_it said:

    rssesq said:

    it's all #FAKENEWS, lol

    Well Said...
    agreed.

    then why are you constantly quoting MSM for your points?
    MSM ?

    mainstream media (Fox)
  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 5,971
    PJ_Soul said:

    So this happened: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4274138/ICE-officials-arrest-Dreamer-22-spoke-media.html

    I think it's clear that her arrest immediately following her speech is no coincidence. Her application was pending. She paid the application fee late because she's a starving student (as many students are, since education is too expensive). I would say this is a prelude to the government blatantly tracking down and arresting dissenters. This woman has been in the USA since she was 7 years old FFS. Some assholes think this arrest is justified because she didn't pay a $500 admin fee on time... yeah, that's worth ruining her life. I thought Trump and ICE were after the criminal illegal immigrants? Well, seems they are also after the productive ones who do and will contribute postiviely to America. All they have to do is speak against Trump. Dissenters beware. Probably won't be long before they try doing it to citizens too.

    Definitely. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago it appears that a tech company outside Seattle was raided by ICE and ICE started demanding documentation for their workers. This is a high tech, cloud integration, Microsoft partner company. So pretty mainstream tech company, like 100's of others in the Seattle area. This is just the beginning.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028695662
    Seattle-area tech company raided by immigration enforcement

    Think it'll just be farmers and restaurants which are raided? Think again.

    Seattle-area cloud company Sysgain on Tuesday was reportedly the subject of an immigration raid — something the official allegedly called a "routine inspection."

    The immigration official who was at the scene at the company's Redmond office allegedly made everyone put their cell phones away, told them they weren't allowed to record anything, demanded records and documentation, and questioned why some of the cubicles were empty, according to a Facebook post from someone familiar with the matter.

    The official reportedly interrogated the CEO for more than an hour and are demanding the company produce additional documentation, according to that same post. Sysgain is a Microsoft cloud administration partner company that helps companies transition their operations to the cloud.

    It’s unclear whether the inspection was completed by an Immigration Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent, who target undocumented immigrants and those with deportation orders, or the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which typically tracks compliance for “high tech” H-1B visa programs.

    anticipate more orders, more demand for services
    Davis Wright Tremaine immigration lawyer Chris Helm expects both types of immigration raids will become more common under President Donald Trump's administration.

    Department of Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly, in a pair of memos signed Tuesday, instructed the agency to begin hiring 10,000 additional ICE agents and 5,000 additional Border Patrol officers.

    “This is just the tip of the iceberg,” Helm said.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2017/02/22/seattle-area-tech-company-raided-by-immigration.html?ana=e_du_prem&s=article_du&ed=2017-02-22&u=ColXVN5SPzQtLHFP87ho2w07857290&t=1487825375&j=77464611

    Link goes to a subscriber only article.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    i_lov_it said:

    rssesq said:

    it's all #FAKENEWS, lol

    Well Said...
    agreed.

    then why are you constantly quoting MSM for your points?
    MSM ?

    mainstream media (Fox)
    thanks' ...because they're "Fair and Balanced" ....and Unafraid.

    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,149

    i_lov_it said:

    rssesq said:

    it's all #FAKENEWS, lol

    Well Said...
    agreed.

    then why are you constantly quoting MSM for your points?
    MSM ?

    mainstream media (Fox)
    thanks' ...because they're "Fair and Balanced" ....and Unafraid.

    balanced? are you serious? if anything, they are the most partisan of all MSM. if you've watched any other network's news, you'd know that. it is undeniable fact.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,274

    i_lov_it said:

    rssesq said:

    it's all #FAKENEWS, lol

    Well Said...
    agreed.

    then why are you constantly quoting MSM for your points?
    MSM ?

    mainstream media (Fox)
    thanks' ...because they're "Fair and Balanced" ....and Unafraid.

    You're joking, right? Or trolling or something?
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