Recent Wave of Immigrant Arrests - What Does it Mean?

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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 10,622
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
  • unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    Congratulations on being a lucky baby, Unsung.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 9,304

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    But they do exist. All the borders and laws that are in effect now are there as a result of an evolution of human existence on this planet. They are necessary to maintain order, protect property rights, allow for certain freedoms, etc... some are good, some are bad.

    I get that the birth lottery isn't fair, but I bet you appreciate the lock on your door and the laws that protect your property you rent or own.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 10,622

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    But they do exist. All the borders and laws that are in effect now are there as a result of an evolution of human existence on this planet. They are necessary to maintain order, protect property rights, allow for certain freedoms, etc... some are good, some are bad.

    I get that the birth lottery isn't fair, but I bet you appreciate the lock on your door and the laws that protect your property you rent or own.
    my point is I can't stand this "stay out of my country" bullshit. countries are man made dividers. I understand the fundamental need for them, but to use them as some type of reasoning for not helping others, I find, is completely unacceptable.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Maybe when there is no more poverty , otherwise I'd say we can't stop ever !
    We can't empty the boat when water keeps flowing in.

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 10,622
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Maybe when there is no more poverty , otherwise I'd say we can't stop ever !
    We can't empty the boat when water keeps flowing in.

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
    well, I guess I could respond to that if I believed equating immigrants with criminals made a lick of sense.
  • unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Maybe when there is no more poverty , otherwise I'd say we can't stop ever !
    We can't empty the boat when water keeps flowing in.

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
    You mean you only believe in 'your' property rights. Native Indians believe in property rights too. All the arguments you make are moot.

    This exclusion attitude has been around a long time. Didn't European groups such as the Irish and the Italians face hostility as they- like the English people right before them- tried to make a new life for themselves on a new continent? Say nothing of the Chinese who were treated like garbage. Oh yah... blacks faced some hostility too.

    On the micro scale, lock your door. It makes perfect sense to. But don't equate locking your door from outsiders to locking a massive chunk of land to outsiders when you're an outsider to begin with.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 16,621
    I'd say watch what you wish for we are all one dreadful event from being homeless or destitute , I say there is enough in this country to take care of the needy !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,852
    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    Your own country is not always picking up the slack. As a percentage of national income, the contribution from the US to foreign aid, for example, is small. You're pretty much middle to low end of the pack.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,852
    unsung said:

    Literally dozens of people?

    LOL. They have it so rough those Canadians.
    I'm not complaining about it. I do think it's telling, though, and contradicts your narrative.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 9,304
    edited February 13

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    But they do exist. All the borders and laws that are in effect now are there as a result of an evolution of human existence on this planet. They are necessary to maintain order, protect property rights, allow for certain freedoms, etc... some are good, some are bad.

    I get that the birth lottery isn't fair, but I bet you appreciate the lock on your door and the laws that protect your property you rent or own.
    my point is I can't stand this "stay out of my country" bullshit. countries are man made dividers. I understand the fundamental need for them, but to use them as some type of reasoning for not helping others, I find, is completely unacceptable.
    I don't disagree. It bugs me that some wealthy family can buy up thousands and thousands of acres and 200 years later it is still controlled by their heirs who did nothing for it.

    I'm just for responsible, legal immigration. If we need 1,000,000 Mexicans to work in the USA in 2018 than lets get it done through the legal process.
    Post edited by bootlegger10 on
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 13,343

    unsung said:

    Literally dozens of people?

    LOL. They have it so rough those Canadians.
    the point is many people are fleeing the US and coming to Canada, in the middle of winter, on foot. I thought the US was the land of opportunity!
    right via N Dakota. guys are being frostbit and losing digits. So yeah, go ahead and laugh.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Maybe when there is no more poverty , otherwise I'd say we can't stop ever !
    We can't empty the boat when water keeps flowing in.

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
    well, I guess I could respond to that if I believed equating immigrants with criminals made a lick of sense.
    ????? really ?

    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 10,622

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Maybe when there is no more poverty , otherwise I'd say we can't stop ever !
    We can't empty the boat when water keeps flowing in.

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
    well, I guess I could respond to that if I believed equating immigrants with criminals made a lick of sense.
    ????? really ?

    comprehension problem?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725

    unsung said:

    Literally dozens of people?

    LOL. They have it so rough those Canadians.
    I'm not complaining about it. I do think it's telling, though, and contradicts your narrative.
    When it hits 11,000,000 come talk to me.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    Your own country is not always picking up the slack. As a percentage of national income, the contribution from the US to foreign aid, for example, is small. You're pretty much middle to low end of the pack.
    Foreign aid should be zero. We have too many of our own problems.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 15,913
    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    we haven't.

    if anybody thinks they have, they are a dick.
    "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed."- Hemingway

    "i'm not here to start the fire. i am here to fan the flames..."

    If you have never failed, you have never lived.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    we haven't.

    if anybody thinks they have, they are a dick.
    So how much more do you want to bleed me for?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 15,913

    "There is nothing to writing. All you do is sit down at a typewriter and bleed."- Hemingway

    "i'm not here to start the fire. i am here to fan the flames..."

    If you have never failed, you have never lived.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Perfect!!!

    Let's do charity willingly and not forced under the threat of being killed.

    I know I would donate more than I already do.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,527
    unsung said:

    Perfect!!!

    Let's do charity willingly and not forced under the threat of being killed.

    I know I would donate more than I already do.

    Charities can't do what food stamps can do. Ask them if you think I'm a hot air wind bag statist pawn.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Yeah, those Church food drives never did any good. SMH.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,527
    unsung said:

    Yeah, those Church food drives never did any good. SMH.

    You're too polarized. They do good, but they'll tell you they're in addition to food stamps, not a replacement.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    Should there be a time limit on food stamps?
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,527
    unsung said:

    Should there be a time limit on food stamps?

    You know there already is, right?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,725
    For some.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Maybe when there is no more poverty , otherwise I'd say we can't stop ever !
    We can't empty the boat when water keeps flowing in.

    unsung said:

    unsung said:

    At what point have we met our moral obligation to help poor people?

    Right now, for most situations, birth means everything.

    Some babies, like us and ours, are born into pleasant circumstances. Others are born into poor circumstances. When we recognize our good fortunes and acknowledge those with misfortunes... we likely won't be so abject to assisting others.

    Hoarding massive amounts of wealth earned as a lucky baby on the backs of others is fundamentally wrong in my opinion. We need a more equitable model for wealth distribution that still respects a baby's lottery win- being born to wealth- but allows for babies born unto poor circumstances the opportunity to crawl out of the gutter.
    Well said, Thirty.

    Some societies do a much better job than others of making things more equitable, at least for those within their society. Not all societies share the "claw myself to the top" mentality of the USA.

    Don't forget you're also a citizen of the world, not just a citizen of the USA.
    Screw that globalist BS. It isn't my burden to save the world when my own country is the one that always picks up the slack. Sorry, hard to equate anything with this coming from a Canadian. My buddy got stopped at the border on his way to a fishing trip because of a DUI a few years prior. Don't lecture me on immigration.
    yep, you're undeserving unless you were born within the confines of that magical line that does't exist in reality!
    Sorry bud, I believe in property rights. Or do you leave your front door open each night?
    well, I guess I could respond to that if I believed equating immigrants with criminals made a lick of sense.
    ????? really ?

    comprehension problem?
    no, just total amazement at your lack of understanding of the real world, this country and all others have fought and maintained borders
    from the beginning even the native Americans (or so they're called) fought for and killed each other for hunting grounds and living areas
    and it was always a matter of survival...to maintain a peoples security, your free love, hippy way of thinking is what wiped-out some of the non aggressive tribes and cultures but I'm sure you don't believe that right ?
    even the hippy generation grew up and understood the means of survival, you really should put that fad away and think in terms of survival yourself...just say'n..


    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    HFD you dislike borders right ? do you enjoy living in Canada without the pesky laws that govern the United States ? or other countries' ?
    your open border and free reign for the people idea is noble but seriously un-workable....it's a hippy pipe dream and hopefully someday you'll realize open borders will never work.
    it dosen't matter to me what a man dose for a living you understand..
    as long as his interest's don't conflict with mine.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 16,621

    HFD you dislike borders right ? do you enjoy living in Canada without the pesky laws that govern the United States ? or other countries' ?
    your open border and free reign for the people idea is noble but seriously un-workable....it's a hippy pipe dream and hopefully someday you'll realize open borders will never work.

    So you don't like , immigrants , Muslims, native Americans but hippies too ! Man how do you look in the mirror...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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