It's a bit one sided to suggest that Bruce isn't able to speak his mind, but our president calls people and business failing piles of garbage. That is what shouldn't be said. That's embarrassing.
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It's a bit one sided to suggest that Bruce isn't able to speak his mind, but our president calls people and business failing piles of garbage. That is what shouldn't be said. That's embarrassing.
Trump could definitely learn to say things in a different way. But, he may speak that way for a reason....
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.
What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.
What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
As much as Charles Barkley would like to say,"I am not a role model." Stars and the like are role models and should be held to another standard. But unfortunately the "Stars" handlers/controllers often influence what the "Stars" do and say. It's unfortunate money has made many "Stars" cowtail toward one political party or view.
It's a bit one sided to suggest that Bruce isn't able to speak his mind, but our president calls people and business failing piles of garbage. That is what shouldn't be said. That's embarrassing.
Trump could definitely learn to say things in a different way. But, he may speak that way for a reason....
Not that I'm trying to change your views, but I don't understand how the person in the highest position in our country can say things completely inappropriate and rude, but saying I'm embarrassed to be an American right now isn't allowed? You know that Trump has been dissing our entire country for about 2 years and saying he is going to make us great again. Saying how we're terrible and not winning. He's the biggest hypocrite the world has ever seen. He says no one has more respect for "x" and then in the next breath calls it sad, failing, etc. It's one thing to disagree with a person, but it's completely classless to act like an arrogant ass know it all.
That doesn't really answer my question. Why can't Bruce use his voice just because he's a musician, but you in the labor force can? That "role model" angle makes absolutely no sense.
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.
What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
As much as Charles Barkley would like to say,"I am not a role model." Stars and the like are role models and should be held to another standard. But unfortunately the "Stars" handlers/controllers often influence what the "Stars" do and say. It's unfortunate money has made many "Stars" cowtail toward one political party or view.
Ah, I see it now. The theory that artists and musicians are often conservative, but "act" liberal because it's cool. I've seen this one before, and it's really conservatives coming up with a half baked theory to try and come to terms with their own belief system that's out of alignment with society.
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.
What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
As much as Charles Barkley would like to say,"I am not a role model." Stars and the like are role models and should be held to another standard. But unfortunately the "Stars" handlers/controllers often influence what the "Stars" do and say. It's unfortunate money has made many "Stars" cowtail toward one political party or view.
What's more embarrassing then the DNC rigging the primaries for a career politician cheating during the debates, spending $1.2B on the campaign, then playing music for the most unlikable loser a day before the election...he should be embarrassed. And the kicker, the most embarrassing thing hasn't even happened yet!
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Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.
What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
As much as Charles Barkley would like to say,"I am not a role model." Stars and the like are role models and should be held to another standard. But unfortunately the "Stars" handlers/controllers often influence what the "Stars" do and say. It's unfortunate money has made many "Stars" cowtail toward one political party or view.
What's more embarrassing then the DNC rigging the primaries for a career politician cheating during the debates, spending $1.2B on the campaign, then playing music for the most unlikable loser a day before the election...he should be embarrassed. And the kicker, the most embarrassing thing hasn't even happened yet!
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
Did he now? Like boycotting to play a NC gig did? If you're looking to be offended, you're late.
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buck502000
Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
Did he now? Like boycotting to play a NC gig did? If you're looking to be offended, you're late.
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.
What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
As much as Charles Barkley would like to say,"I am not a role model." Stars and the like are role models and should be held to another standard. But unfortunately the "Stars" handlers/controllers often influence what the "Stars" do and say. It's unfortunate money has made many "Stars" cowtail toward one political party or view.
What's more embarrassing then the DNC rigging the primaries for a career politician cheating during the debates, spending $1.2B on the campaign, then playing music for the most unlikable loser a day before the election...he should be embarrassed. And the kicker, the most embarrassing thing hasn't even happened yet!
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.
What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
As much as Charles Barkley would like to say,"I am not a role model." Stars and the like are role models and should be held to another standard. But unfortunately the "Stars" handlers/controllers often influence what the "Stars" do and say. It's unfortunate money has made many "Stars" cowtail toward one political party or view.
What's more embarrassing then the DNC rigging the primaries for a career politician cheating during the debates, spending $1.2B on the campaign, then playing music for the most unlikable loser a day before the election...he should be embarrassed. And the kicker, the most embarrassing thing hasn't even happened yet!
Just because you chose one form of freedom of speech, don't bash those who choose to voice theirs in another manner. I can assure you Bruce Springsteen loves this country and would not speak up if he were not fearful for what he sees happening now.
Bruce just should have said he was upset that Trump was elected - I would never say he was an embarrassed American.
Bruce is embarrassed. Are you saying 'don't speak freely'?
Nope - just that he should use different words.
Obviously you're not grasping the "free" part of "free speech".
Free =\= your perception of an issue
Just wasn't smart on his part - just alienated a large part of his fanbase....
You weren't around during the Reagan and W years were you? He said MUCH worse than this and guess what? He still sells out the largest venues in America and around the world. I'm fairly certain his tour last year touring The River was one of the highest grossing tours of the year. He is just fine without you and likeminded people. It's your loss. You're the one missing on great music because he simply did what we all have the right to do.
What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
As much as Charles Barkley would like to say,"I am not a role model." Stars and the like are role models and should be held to another standard. But unfortunately the "Stars" handlers/controllers often influence what the "Stars" do and say. It's unfortunate money has made many "Stars" cowtail toward one political party or view.
What's more embarrassing then the DNC rigging the primaries for a career politician cheating during the debates, spending $1.2B on the campaign, then playing music for the most unlikable loser a day before the election...he should be embarrassed. And the kicker, the most embarrassing thing hasn't even happened yet!
Got a link to the $1.2B campaign spend?
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Funny, you keep making shit up. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
And he'd give you an eloquent, well thought out answer about why he did it. I hope then you could shake his hand, say you're a fan, say you disagree but it's cool because we aren't fucking kindergarteners who disrespect others with another opinion.
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What if I said pipe fitters (or whatever you are) shouldn't be allowed to speak your minds on politics? Why should musicians and artists be held to another standard?
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He'll still "sell out".
And the kicker, the most embarrassing thing hasn't even happened yet!
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