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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877
    Smellyman said:
    Don't you have to burn all your PJ records and posters too.  Follow through.
    I don’t think he mentioned pj but I do respect the op. Actions speak louder than words. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    blackhawksblackhawks Posts: 307
    I have friends who’s political stance I don’t agree with.  Enjoying a stranger’s music is no big deal regardless of their beliefs.
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,519
    mcgruff10 said:
    Smellyman said:
    Don't you have to burn all your PJ records and posters too.  Follow through.
    I don’t think he mentioned pj but I do respect the op. Actions speak louder than words. 
    I know.  But PJ has said for more than what Bruce said.

    Yes actions can illuminate stupidity.


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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,542
    I saw Bruce on Broadway it was a great show
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    Bentleyspop said:
    I saw Bruce on Broadway it was a great show
    Lucky bastard... I was in NY earlier this year and tried to get tickets... outrageous prices.. 750 for shit sits on a Wed.  Crazy how popular it was.  
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,519
    edited September 2018

    mrussel1 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    I saw Bruce on Broadway it was a great show
    Lucky bastard... I was in NY earlier this year and tried to get tickets... outrageous prices.. 750 for shit sits on a Wed.  Crazy how popular it was.  
    'shit sits' made me giggle
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited September 2018
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    blackhawks said:
    I have friends who’s political stance I don’t agree with.  Enjoying a stranger’s music is no big deal regardless of their beliefs.
    Exactly
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    The Juggler said:
    Trashing your own belongings as a form of protest. I don’t get it. 

    OP burned his Nike’s a couple weeks back too, yeah? Brilliant. 
    Did Buck really burn his Nike? I would love to see that video lol
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    Gtilley8Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    The Juggler said:
    Trashing your own belongings as a form of protest. I don’t get it. 

    OP burned his Nike’s a couple weeks back too, yeah? Brilliant. 
    Exactly.  
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,877
    Smellyman said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Smellyman said:
    Don't you have to burn all your PJ records and posters too.  Follow through.
    I don’t think he mentioned pj but I do respect the op. Actions speak louder than words. 
    I know.  But PJ has said for more than what Bruce said.

    Yes actions can illuminate stupidity.


    This is also true lol.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,534
    If anyone doesn't want their Springsteen records anymore, please send them my way - then they will be banished from the USA.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    PJ_Soul said:
    If anyone doesn't want their Springsteen records anymore, please send them my way - then they will be banished from the USA.
    Dammit, that's the best argument yet.  
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited September 2018
    Im just a casual Bruce fan,  but I find it surprising to read so much dislike for his music.  Its subjective, but Nebraska, Devils and Dust, My Hometown, 41 shots.  Come on, folks!! Must be something of his you like, no?

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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,106
    You know breaking bruce records  is a good idea.  Not because of a protest, but because Bruce makes freakin boring music.
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Why would someone who wants to break Bruce records because they are boring have one in the first place. I hate Nickleback and would love to break some of their records, but I dont have any.

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    They sure as hell ain't boring.  If this were the 19th century, Dylan would be Emerson and Bruce would be Thoreau.  He writes more lyrics, meaningful ones, in one song than most writers do for an entire album.  
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited September 2018
    No shit. Boring is probably the last word I would use to describe his music. Whatever, im gonna go smoke a j, turn my headphones on max to High Hopes and  mow my lawn. Peace.

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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
     I bought Nike shoes today....
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    buck502000 said:
     I bought Nike shoes today....
    More target practice?

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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    edited September 2018
    Hi! said:
    buck502000 said:
     I bought Nike shoes today....
    More target practice?
    nope, for the gym.  I won't boycott them, they make good athletic gear.  I do believe this marketing stunt was a poor business decision, however.
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    buck502000 said:
    Hi! said:
    buck502000 said:
     I bought Nike shoes today....
    More target practice?
    nope, for the gym.  I won't boycott them, they make good athletic gear.  I do believe this marketing stunt was a poor business decision, however.
    Their products are of high quality in my opinion as well. Ive also read their sales have soared in the time right after this "stunt" as you call it. I think it was a great idea by Nike. Considering what the black athletes have done for their brand, I think it was a great choice for them to take a stand.

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    buck502000 said:
    Hi! said:
    buck502000 said:
     I bought Nike shoes today....
    More target practice?
    nope, for the gym.  I won't boycott them, they make good athletic gear.  I do believe this marketing stunt was a poor business decision, however.
    It's so interesting that you say that.  Here's an excellent article from NRO addressing that very issue.  And the byline addresses Buck to a tee, evidently..

    Nike is winning Colin Kapernick Wars..
    The public cares about products far more than politics.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/nike-winning-colin-kaepernick-culture-wars-products-popular/
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    He stood in the clouded wrath of the crowd but when they said sit down he stood up!  

    Fox News is really doing some groundbreaking reporting here. 
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,826
    buck502000 said:
    Hi! said:
    buck502000 said:
     I bought Nike shoes today....
    More target practice?
    nope, for the gym.  I won't boycott them, they make good athletic gear.  I do believe this marketing stunt was a poor business decision, however.
    Shares at an all time high does not suggest a poor business decision.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,832
    oftenreading said:
    buck502000 said:
    Hi! said:
    buck502000 said:
     I bought Nike shoes today....
    More target practice?
    nope, for the gym.  I won't boycott them, they make good athletic gear.  I do believe this marketing stunt was a poor business decision, however.
    Shares at an all time high does not suggest a poor business decision.
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    anytime you alienate any of your customers, it's a bad move.  Short-term boost, but it will hurt long-term sales. 
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    buck502000 said:
    anytime you alienate any of your customers, it's a bad move.  Short-term boost, but it will hurt long-term sales. 
    Lol

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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,826
    buck502000 said:
    anytime you alienate any of your customers, it's a bad move.  Short-term boost, but it will hurt long-term sales. 

    I doubt it. No action will please everybody. Better to alienate a few of the dinosaurs and in the process capture many new customers. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    buck502000 said:
    anytime you alienate any of your customers, it's a bad move.  Short-term boost, but it will hurt long-term sales. 
    Not if it draws a positive distinction against a competitor, it isn't bad.  Nike knows who buys 5 pairs of shoes a year... and it's not 55 year old white guys.  Nike knows how Colin is perceived in the international market.  They have now drawn, in their mind, a positive distinction against Under Armour and Adidas.  It's actually a brilliant move.  
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