Well thanks to Trump the US is now a top threat to human rights according to Human Rights Watch, so is that the first real 'win' for this administration?
This is an interesting article about the phone call from President Trump saying he pulled the vote. Full conversation here. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/perspective-‘hello-bob’-president-trump-called-my-cellphone-to-say-that-the-health-care-bill-was-dead/ar-BByHQUr “Hello, Bob,” Trump began. “So, we just pulled it.” “We couldn’t get one Democratic vote, and we were a little bit shy, very little, but it was still a little bit shy, so we pulled it,” “As you know, I’ve been saying for years that the best thing is to let Obamacare explode and then go make a deal with the Democrats and have one unified deal. And they will come to us; we won’t have to come to them, The beauty,” Trump continued, “is that they own Obamacare. So when it explodes, they come to us, and we make one beautiful deal for the people. But we couldn’t get one Democrat vote, not one. So that means they own Obamacare and when that explodes, they will come to us wanting to save whatever is left, and we’ll make a real deal. I don’t blame Paul. I don’t blame Paul at all. Does Trump regret starting his agenda this year with health care? “No, I don’t,” he said. “But in a way I’m glad I got it out of the way.” “Look, I’m a team player,” Trump said of the Republican Party. “I’ve played this team. I’ve played with the team. And they just fell a little bit short, and it’s very hard when you need almost 100 percent of the votes and we have no votes, zero, from the Democrats. It’s unheard of.”
This is an interesting article about the phone call from President Trump saying he pulled the vote. Full conversation here. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/perspective-‘hello-bob’-president-trump-called-my-cellphone-to-say-that-the-health-care-bill-was-dead/ar-BByHQUr “Hello, Bob,” Trump began. “So, we just pulled it.” “We couldn’t get one Democratic vote, and we were a little bit shy, very little, but it was still a little bit shy, so we pulled it,” “As you know, I’ve been saying for years that the best thing is to let Obamacare explode and then go make a deal with the Democrats and have one unified deal. And they will come to us; we won’t have to come to them, The beauty,” Trump continued, “is that they own Obamacare. So when it explodes, they come to us, and we make one beautiful deal for the people. But we couldn’t get one Democrat vote, not one. So that means they own Obamacare and when that explodes, they will come to us wanting to save whatever is left, and we’ll make a real deal. I don’t blame Paul. I don’t blame Paul at all. Does Trump regret starting his agenda this year with health care? “No, I don’t,” he said. “But in a way I’m glad I got it out of the way.” “Look, I’m a team player,” Trump said of the Republican Party. “I’ve played this team. I’ve played with the team. And they just fell a little bit short, and it’s very hard when you need almost 100 percent of the votes and we have no votes, zero, from the Democrats. It’s unheard of.”
This is an interesting article about the phone call from President Trump saying he pulled the vote. Full conversation here. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/perspective-‘hello-bob’-president-trump-called-my-cellphone-to-say-that-the-health-care-bill-was-dead/ar-BByHQUr “Hello, Bob,” Trump began. “So, we just pulled it.” “We couldn’t get one Democratic vote, and we were a little bit shy, very little, but it was still a little bit shy, so we pulled it,” “As you know, I’ve been saying for years that the best thing is to let Obamacare explode and then go make a deal with the Democrats and have one unified deal. And they will come to us; we won’t have to come to them, The beauty,” Trump continued, “is that they own Obamacare. So when it explodes, they come to us, and we make one beautiful deal for the people. But we couldn’t get one Democrat vote, not one. So that means they own Obamacare and when that explodes, they will come to us wanting to save whatever is left, and we’ll make a real deal. I don’t blame Paul. I don’t blame Paul at all. Does Trump regret starting his agenda this year with health care? “No, I don’t,” he said. “But in a way I’m glad I got it out of the way.” “Look, I’m a team player,” Trump said of the Republican Party. “I’ve played this team. I’ve played with the team. And they just fell a little bit short, and it’s very hard when you need almost 100 percent of the votes and we have no votes, zero, from the Democrats. It’s unheard of.”
What's sad is that when there's such an epidemic of partisan politics, it's a reasonable scapegoat for the failure of a bill which failed not because of partisan politics this time, but because of plain old poor quality.
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This is an interesting article about the phone call from President Trump saying he pulled the vote. Full conversation here. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/perspective-‘hello-bob’-president-trump-called-my-cellphone-to-say-that-the-health-care-bill-was-dead/ar-BByHQUr “Hello, Bob,” Trump began. “So, we just pulled it.” “We couldn’t get one Democratic vote, and we were a little bit shy, very little, but it was still a little bit shy, so we pulled it,” “As you know, I’ve been saying for years that the best thing is to let Obamacare explode and then go make a deal with the Democrats and have one unified deal. And they will come to us; we won’t have to come to them, The beauty,” Trump continued, “is that they own Obamacare. So when it explodes, they come to us, and we make one beautiful deal for the people. But we couldn’t get one Democrat vote, not one. So that means they own Obamacare and when that explodes, they will come to us wanting to save whatever is left, and we’ll make a real deal. I don’t blame Paul. I don’t blame Paul at all. Does Trump regret starting his agenda this year with health care? “No, I don’t,” he said. “But in a way I’m glad I got it out of the way.” “Look, I’m a team player,” Trump said of the Republican Party. “I’ve played this team. I’ve played with the team. And they just fell a little bit short, and it’s very hard when you need almost 100 percent of the votes and we have no votes, zero, from the Democrats. It’s unheard of.”
What a putz.
LOL!!! Haven't heard that word in a long time. PUTZ! Hahaha!
Bill Maher was interesting last night. They were talking about how unusual this Russian shit is and why it is that we aren't MORE alarmed by it.
I agree...I think we are so used to the outrageous bullshit that this idiot puts out that we are numb to it.
There could be some really treasonous bullshit that went down.
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Yesterday it came out that Flynn was basically talking about kidnapping a Turkish cleric to haul him back to Turkey so he could be stoned to death.
This was while he was advising Trump.
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The speculation on Flynn seems to be based on all the other Trumper's with dodgy Russian connections wanted to testify to congress, which suggests they know that stuff is going down quickly. One of the funniest takes I read was even if they don't perjure themselves it will be super damaging for the President as the nation will see in Roger Stone and Carter Page the complete weirdos he associates with.
The speculation on Flynn seems to be based on all the other Trumper's with dodgy Russian connections wanted to testify to congress, which suggests they know that stuff is going down quickly. One of the funniest takes I read was even if they don't perjure themselves it will be super damaging for the President as the nation will see in Roger Stone and Carter Page the complete weirdos he associates with.
Page is as creepy as they come, and Stone appears to be completely unhinged. I can't imagine Trump walking away unscathed if those two testify. Throw in Manafort for good measure, and things will likely get very interesting.
There seems to be way too much smoke for there to be no fire here, but time will tell.
This is an interesting article about the phone call from President Trump saying he pulled the vote. Full conversation here. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/perspective-‘hello-bob’-president-trump-called-my-cellphone-to-say-that-the-health-care-bill-was-dead/ar-BByHQUr “Hello, Bob,” Trump began. “So, we just pulled it.” “We couldn’t get one Democratic vote, and we were a little bit shy, very little, but it was still a little bit shy, so we pulled it,” “As you know, I’ve been saying for years that the best thing is to let Obamacare explode and then go make a deal with the Democrats and have one unified deal. And they will come to us; we won’t have to come to them, The beauty,” Trump continued, “is that they own Obamacare. So when it explodes, they come to us, and we make one beautiful deal for the people. But we couldn’t get one Democrat vote, not one. So that means they own Obamacare and when that explodes, they will come to us wanting to save whatever is left, and we’ll make a real deal. I don’t blame Paul. I don’t blame Paul at all. Does Trump regret starting his agenda this year with health care? “No, I don’t,” he said. “But in a way I’m glad I got it out of the way.” “Look, I’m a team player,” Trump said of the Republican Party. “I’ve played this team. I’ve played with the team. And they just fell a little bit short, and it’s very hard when you need almost 100 percent of the votes and we have no votes, zero, from the Democrats. It’s unheard of.”
What's sad is that when there's such an epidemic of partisan politics, it's a reasonable scapegoat for the failure of a bill which failed not because of partisan politics this time, but because of plain old poor quality.
I mean, it's unreasonable to expect any Democrats to vote to repeal a law they voted into existence unanimously in the first place. That's just stupid.
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Bill Maher was interesting last night. They were talking about how unusual this Russian shit is and why it is that we aren't MORE alarmed by it.
I agree...I think we are so used to the outrageous bullshit that this idiot puts out that we are numb to it.
There could be some really treasonous bullshit that went down.
I think for some people it's the flip side. It seems *so* fantastical that it must be made up. A lot of people are comparing it to the Obama birther stories. They just dismiss it out of hand.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Nobody is claiming it's going to be easy. I think it'll eat up the first couple of years of Trump's first term. The republicans are going to have a tough time in 2018 if they don't investigate this. Four Benghazi hearings and none regarding Russia interfering in our election process? Political suicide. If I'm the Dems, I'd be running adds now.
Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment .
The speculation on Flynn seems to be based on all the other Trumper's with dodgy Russian connections wanted to testify to congress, which suggests they know that stuff is going down quickly. One of the funniest takes I read was even if they don't perjure themselves it will be super damaging for the President as the nation will see in Roger Stone and Carter Page the complete weirdos he associates with.
Page is as creepy as they come, and Stone appears to be completely unhinged. I can't imagine Trump walking away unscathed if those two testify. Throw in Manafort for good measure, and things will likely get very interesting.
There seems to be way too much smoke for there to be no fire here, but time will tell.
Stone is the original dirty trickster. Has a full back portrait of Nixon tattooed on homself. That motherfucker wont say shit.
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Statement from Obama the other day...... "When I took office, millions of Americans were locked out of our health care system. So, just as leaders in both parties had tried to do since the days of Teddy Roosevelt, we took up the cause of health reform. It was a long battle, carried out in Congressional hearings and in the public square for more than a year. But ultimately, after a century of talk, decades of trying, and a year of bipartisan debate, our generation was the one that succeeded. We finally declared that in America, health care is not a privilege for a few, but a right for everybody.
The result was the Affordable Care Act, which I signed into law seven years ago today. Thanks to this law, more than twenty million Americans have gained the security and peace of mind of health insurance. Thanks to this law, more than ninety percent of Americans are insured – the highest rate in our history. Thanks to this law, the days when women could be charged more than men and Americans with pre-existing conditions could be denied coverage altogether are relics of the past. Seniors have bigger discounts on their prescription drugs. Young people can stay on their parents’ plans until they turn 26 years old. And Americans who already had insurance received an upgrade as well – from free preventive care, like mammograms and vaccines, to improvements in the quality of care in hospitals that has averted nearly 100,000 deaths so far.
All of that is thanks to the Affordable Care Act. And all the while, since the law passed, the pace of health care inflation has slowed dramatically. Prices are still rising, just as they have every year for decades – but under this law, they’ve been rising at the slowest rate in fifty years. Families who get coverage through their employer are paying, on average, thousands of dollars less per year than if costs kept rising as fast as they were before the law. And reality continues to discredit the false claim that this law is in a “death spiral,” because while it’s true that some premiums have risen, the vast majority of Marketplace enrollees have experienced no average premium hike at all. And so long as the law is properly administered, this market will remain stable. Likewise, this law is no “job-killer,” because America’s businesses went on a record-breaking streak of job growth in the seven years since I signed it.
So the reality is clear: America is stronger because of the Affordable Care Act. There will always be work to do to reduce costs, stabilize markets, improve quality, and help the millions of Americans who remain uninsured in states that have so far refused to expand Medicaid. I’ve always said we should build on this law, just as Americans of both parties worked to improve Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid over the years. So if Republicans are serious about lowering costs while expanding coverage to those who need it, and if they’re prepared to work with Democrats and objective evaluators in finding solutions that accomplish those goals – that’s something we all should welcome. But we should start from the baseline that any changes will make our health care system better, not worse for hardworking Americans. That should always be our priority.
The Affordable Care Act is law only because millions of Americans mobilized, and organized, and decided that this fight was about more than health care – it was about the character of our country. It was about whether the wealthiest nation on Earth would make sure that neither illness nor twist of fate would rob us of everything we’ve worked so hard to build. It was about whether we look out for one another, as neighbors, and fellow citizens, who care about each other’s success. This fight is still about all that today. And Americans who love their country still have the power to change it.”
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How about "Making America Grateful Again"!!! America has never not been great. Trump just used his slogan to pull the wool over gullible people's eyes to get votes. He used psychology to make Americans feel like our country is a disaster. We really need to ask ourselves, how bad do we really have it? Maybe if people were more grateful, we wouldn't be dealing with silly tweets at all hours of the day and night from a supposed President who claims to want to help lower and middle class Americans - meanwhile he is off golfing on the weekends spending big bucks.
No matter how cold the winter, there's a springtime ahead...
I really thought the OF had a death grip on the throat of the US govt, and us by extension but now I see a lot of HYPE followed by failure in his future, just like in his past.
But who's hype was this? This is why the Trump is parallel Hitler stuff was such nonsense. Did Hitler have trouble getting bills passed? Did Mussolini? The first few weeks after the election the AMT was all "We're heading towards facism!!!!". Now the only facism on display is that of the past administration who spied on it's political enemies.
My understanding is that they put themselves in a place to be spied on. Is this not correct? They weren't being spied on because they were political opposition.
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“Hello, Bob,” Trump began. “So, we just pulled it.”
“We couldn’t get one Democratic vote, and we were a little bit shy, very little, but it was still a little bit shy, so we pulled it,”
“As you know, I’ve been saying for years that the best thing is to let Obamacare explode and then go make a deal with the Democrats and have one unified deal. And they will come to us; we won’t have to come to them, The beauty,” Trump continued, “is that they own Obamacare. So when it explodes, they come to us, and we make one beautiful deal for the people. But we couldn’t get one Democrat vote, not one. So that means they own Obamacare and when that explodes, they will come to us wanting to save whatever is left, and we’ll make a real deal. I don’t blame Paul. I don’t blame Paul at all.
Does Trump regret starting his agenda this year with health care?
“No, I don’t,” he said. “But in a way I’m glad I got it out of the way.”
“Look, I’m a team player,” Trump said of the Republican Party. “I’ve played this team. I’ve played with the team. And they just fell a little bit short, and it’s very hard when you need almost 100 percent of the votes and we have no votes, zero, from the Democrats. It’s unheard of.”
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I agree...I think we are so used to the outrageous bullshit that this idiot puts out that we are numb to it.
There could be some really treasonous bullshit that went down.
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This was while he was advising Trump.
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One of the funniest takes I read was even if they don't perjure themselves it will be super damaging for the President as the nation will see in Roger Stone and Carter Page the complete weirdos he associates with.
There seems to be way too much smoke for there to be no fire here, but time will tell.
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Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment .
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"When I took office, millions of Americans were locked out of our health care system. So, just as leaders in both parties had tried to do since the days of Teddy Roosevelt, we took up the cause of health reform. It was a long battle, carried out in Congressional hearings and in the public square for more than a year. But ultimately, after a century of talk, decades of trying, and a year of bipartisan debate, our generation was the one that succeeded. We finally declared that in America, health care is not a privilege for a few, but a right for everybody.
The result was the Affordable Care Act, which I signed into law seven years ago today. Thanks to this law, more than twenty million Americans have gained the security and peace of mind of health insurance. Thanks to this law, more than ninety percent of Americans are insured – the highest rate in our history. Thanks to this law, the days when women could be charged more than men and Americans with pre-existing conditions could be denied coverage altogether are relics of the past. Seniors have bigger discounts on their prescription drugs. Young people can stay on their parents’ plans until they turn 26 years old. And Americans who already had insurance received an upgrade as well – from free preventive care, like mammograms and vaccines, to improvements in the quality of care in hospitals that has averted nearly 100,000 deaths so far.
All of that is thanks to the Affordable Care Act. And all the while, since the law passed, the pace of health care inflation has slowed dramatically. Prices are still rising, just as they have every year for decades – but under this law, they’ve been rising at the slowest rate in fifty years. Families who get coverage through their employer are paying, on average, thousands of dollars less per year than if costs kept rising as fast as they were before the law. And reality continues to discredit the false claim that this law is in a “death spiral,” because while it’s true that some premiums have risen, the vast majority of Marketplace enrollees have experienced no average premium hike at all. And so long as the law is properly administered, this market will remain stable. Likewise, this law is no “job-killer,” because America’s businesses went on a record-breaking streak of job growth in the seven years since I signed it.
So the reality is clear: America is stronger because of the Affordable Care Act. There will always be work to do to reduce costs, stabilize markets, improve quality, and help the millions of Americans who remain uninsured in states that have so far refused to expand Medicaid. I’ve always said we should build on this law, just as Americans of both parties worked to improve Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid over the years. So if Republicans are serious about lowering costs while expanding coverage to those who need it, and if they’re prepared to work with Democrats and objective evaluators in finding solutions that accomplish those goals – that’s something we all should welcome. But we should start from the baseline that any changes will make our health care system better, not worse for hardworking Americans. That should always be our priority.
The Affordable Care Act is law only because millions of Americans mobilized, and organized, and decided that this fight was about more than health care – it was about the character of our country. It was about whether the wealthiest nation on Earth would make sure that neither illness nor twist of fate would rob us of everything we’ve worked so hard to build. It was about whether we look out for one another, as neighbors, and fellow citizens, who care about each other’s success. This fight is still about all that today. And Americans who love their country still have the power to change it.”
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