Should Betsy DeVos be confirmed as Secretary of Education?

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 37,855
    edited January 27
    No
    . oops
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    No
    Chuck Schumer: Trump's Education Pick Would 'Single-Handedly Decimate' Public Schools

    https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58895b63e4b0024605fdc1ee/amp?client=safari
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 17,172
    She's gonna get the nod you watch at the end of the day all of them will be appointed !
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USAPosts: 2,235
    No
    Kim Jong-Un would be confirmed by this GOP Congress of cowards
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 4,647
    Yes
    You know, I feel really fucked up for saying this, but I hope every one of these fucking clowns gets approved. Maybe after 4 years of a circus we'll all wake up enough to realize we can't ever let anything like this happen again, maybe those millions of people that voted for Obama but sat on their asses this year will swallow their pride and vote for the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.

    Plus it's not like we're magically going to get Bernie Sanders just becuase she gets denied, it will just be some other fucking clown. We made this bed, we're going to have to sleep in it eventually.

    Also, I say all this as someone that will be graduating with a degree in Early Childhood Education sometime in the next four years.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USAPosts: 2,235
    No
    RiotZact said:

    You know, I feel really fucked up for saying this, but I hope every one of these fucking clowns gets approved. Maybe after 4 years of a circus we'll all wake up enough to realize we can't ever let anything like this happen again, maybe those millions of people that voted for Obama but sat on their asses this year will swallow their pride and vote for the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.

    Plus it's not like we're magically going to get Bernie Sanders just becuase she gets denied, it will just be some other fucking clown. We made this bed, we're going to have to sleep in it eventually.

    Also, I say all this as someone that will be graduating with a degree in Early Childhood Education sometime in the next four years.

    denying Trump his cabinet picks embarrasses him and weakens him further. thats the objective. she's also a piece of garbage.
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 4,647
    Yes
    vaggar99 said:

    RiotZact said:

    You know, I feel really fucked up for saying this, but I hope every one of these fucking clowns gets approved. Maybe after 4 years of a circus we'll all wake up enough to realize we can't ever let anything like this happen again, maybe those millions of people that voted for Obama but sat on their asses this year will swallow their pride and vote for the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.

    Plus it's not like we're magically going to get Bernie Sanders just becuase she gets denied, it will just be some other fucking clown. We made this bed, we're going to have to sleep in it eventually.

    Also, I say all this as someone that will be graduating with a degree in Early Childhood Education sometime in the next four years.

    denying Trump his cabinet picks embarrasses him and weakens him further. thats the objective. she's also a piece of garbage.
    Does it really though? Or does it just piss him off and make him pick someone even worse (if that's possible)? I will admit I'm not an expert on this process, but my assumption is that he just picks someone else if she gets denied right?
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USAPosts: 2,235
    No
    RiotZact said:

    vaggar99 said:

    RiotZact said:

    You know, I feel really fucked up for saying this, but I hope every one of these fucking clowns gets approved. Maybe after 4 years of a circus we'll all wake up enough to realize we can't ever let anything like this happen again, maybe those millions of people that voted for Obama but sat on their asses this year will swallow their pride and vote for the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.

    Plus it's not like we're magically going to get Bernie Sanders just becuase she gets denied, it will just be some other fucking clown. We made this bed, we're going to have to sleep in it eventually.

    Also, I say all this as someone that will be graduating with a degree in Early Childhood Education sometime in the next four years.

    denying Trump his cabinet picks embarrasses him and weakens him further. thats the objective. she's also a piece of garbage.
    Does it really though? Or does it just piss him off and make him pick someone even worse (if that's possible)? I will admit I'm not an expert on this process, but my assumption is that he just picks someone else if she gets denied right?
    still have to confirm the next one, right?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,552
    No
    RiotZact said:

    You know, I feel really fucked up for saying this, but I hope every one of these fucking clowns gets approved. Maybe after 4 years of a circus we'll all wake up enough to realize we can't ever let anything like this happen again, maybe those millions of people that voted for Obama but sat on their asses this year will swallow their pride and vote for the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.

    Plus it's not like we're magically going to get Bernie Sanders just becuase she gets denied, it will just be some other fucking clown. We made this bed, we're going to have to sleep in it eventually.

    Also, I say all this as someone that will be graduating with a degree in Early Childhood Education sometime in the next four years.

    I agree with what you are saying but no only to secretary of education. Let s not fuck with kids. We need someone good in there; this bitch needs to be denied.
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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 4,647
    edited January 28
    Yes
    vaggar99 said:

    RiotZact said:

    vaggar99 said:

    RiotZact said:

    You know, I feel really fucked up for saying this, but I hope every one of these fucking clowns gets approved. Maybe after 4 years of a circus we'll all wake up enough to realize we can't ever let anything like this happen again, maybe those millions of people that voted for Obama but sat on their asses this year will swallow their pride and vote for the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.

    Plus it's not like we're magically going to get Bernie Sanders just becuase she gets denied, it will just be some other fucking clown. We made this bed, we're going to have to sleep in it eventually.

    Also, I say all this as someone that will be graduating with a degree in Early Childhood Education sometime in the next four years.

    denying Trump his cabinet picks embarrasses him and weakens him further. thats the objective. she's also a piece of garbage.
    Does it really though? Or does it just piss him off and make him pick someone even worse (if that's possible)? I will admit I'm not an expert on this process, but my assumption is that he just picks someone else if she gets denied right?
    still have to confirm the next one, right?
    Yes, but at some point something has to give, and it's mostly republicans voting on it, so I can't really see them giving him too hard of a time for very long.
    mcgruff10 said:

    RiotZact said:

    You know, I feel really fucked up for saying this, but I hope every one of these fucking clowns gets approved. Maybe after 4 years of a circus we'll all wake up enough to realize we can't ever let anything like this happen again, maybe those millions of people that voted for Obama but sat on their asses this year will swallow their pride and vote for the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.

    Plus it's not like we're magically going to get Bernie Sanders just becuase she gets denied, it will just be some other fucking clown. We made this bed, we're going to have to sleep in it eventually.

    Also, I say all this as someone that will be graduating with a degree in Early Childhood Education sometime in the next four years.

    I agree with what you are saying but no only to secretary of education. Let s not fuck with kids. We need someone good in there; this bitch needs to be denied.
    I get what you're saying, that's why I said I feel fucked up saying it. But think about this, let's say she gets denied and Trump picks a more traditional republican type person for the job (which I doubt he would do anyway), someone that a Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney might choose. Sure, they won't be nearly as bad as DeVos, but they'll still suck, the difference is that traditional republican and moderate voters will be ok with it, whereas right now we have people that have voted republican for their whole lives pissed off at the choice. Those are people that could be converted if they get pissed off enough over the next 4 years, but if we end up with the more traditional choice those same people might be more than happy to vote for him again in 4 years. I'd rather have 4 years of 100% shitty than 8+ years of 80% shitty.

    I honestly see Donald Trump's presidency as an opportunity to destroy the current status quo of the Republican Party. The more chaos that ensues, the more likely we are to have a Bernie v. Hilary election in 20 years instead of another Trump v. Hilary, if that makes sense (it probably doesn't).
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 9,524
    No
    RiotZact said:

    vaggar99 said:

    RiotZact said:

    You know, I feel really fucked up for saying this, but I hope every one of these fucking clowns gets approved. Maybe after 4 years of a circus we'll all wake up enough to realize we can't ever let anything like this happen again, maybe those millions of people that voted for Obama but sat on their asses this year will swallow their pride and vote for the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.

    Plus it's not like we're magically going to get Bernie Sanders just becuase she gets denied, it will just be some other fucking clown. We made this bed, we're going to have to sleep in it eventually.

    Also, I say all this as someone that will be graduating with a degree in Early Childhood Education sometime in the next four years.

    denying Trump his cabinet picks embarrasses him and weakens him further. thats the objective. she's also a piece of garbage.
    Does it really though? Or does it just piss him off and make him pick someone even worse (if that's possible)? I will admit I'm not an expert on this process, but my assumption is that he just picks someone else if she gets denied right?
    I get what you're saying. Trump has an extreme penchant for vengeance. He wants nothing more than to destroy those who don't give him his way. I'm not sure letting him have his way is the right answer though. Trump as a single person doesn't really scare me, it's the masses of followers he has who just fall in line with everything he says and does. If we let four years of that line of thinking represent the populous of the United States, I'm not sure I want to see what shape this country is in come that time.
  • bflynn1bflynn1 Posts: 883
    No
    Definitely not.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 4,095
    No
    Betsy DeVos appears to have plagiarized quote from Obama administration official
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/31/politics/betsy-devos-plagiarism-obama-official/
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CAPosts: 7,623
    edited January 31
    No
    I'd like to meet that 12th deciding yay voter who takes a certain Pink Floyd song way too seriously and beat the crap out of them.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USAPosts: 2,235
    No
    95% don't want her. but 50% still think Trump shouldn't resign. i'm poll offended.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USAPosts: 2,235
    No
    she's in.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 PDX--->KCPosts: 30,094
    No
    vaggar99 said:

    she's in.

    unfuckingreal.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,399
    No
    I think Price is the only one even somewhat in question with his ethics history overhead. Buuuut, I'm sure he will get confirmed as well.

    DeVos should have been a no doubter though. Embarrassing.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    No
    She's not in yet.

    "Despite clearing a key procedural hurdle (today), DeVos’ eventual confirmation by the full Senate remained an open question as members of her own party told CNN wouldn’t commit to voting for her."

    https://www.google.com/amp/ktla.com/2017/01/31/betsy-devos-trumps-education-secretary-pick-clears-senate-committee-in-nomination-hurdle/amp/?client=safari
  • a5pja5pj Hershey PAPosts: 3,106
    No
    Free said:

    She's not in yet.

    "Despite clearing a key procedural hurdle (today), DeVos’ eventual confirmation by the full Senate remained an open question as members of her own party told CNN wouldn’t commit to voting for her."

    https://www.google.com/amp/ktla.com/2017/01/31/betsy-devos-trumps-education-secretary-pick-clears-senate-committee-in-nomination-hurdle/amp/?client=safari

    Call and e-mail your senator, I did.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 6,566
    No
    unsung said:

    The better question should be why is there an unconstitutional federal dept of education? That is a state issue.

    To force the states to keep their shit together....to ensure a minimum standard
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    No
    People Power Works as Two Republicans Pledge to Vote 'No' on DeVos

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/02/01/people-power-works-two-republicans-pledge-vote-no-devos
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 24,483
    No
    Free said:

    People Power Works as Two Republicans Pledge to Vote 'No' on DeVos

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/02/01/people-power-works-two-republicans-pledge-vote-no-devos

    Need one more
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 3,004

    Free said:

    People Power Works as Two Republicans Pledge to Vote 'No' on DeVos

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/02/01/people-power-works-two-republicans-pledge-vote-no-devos

    Need one more
    Take her down. She will destroy the education system.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited February 2
    No
    Here is a list of Republican state senators. Call yours (everyone who cares) today and urge them to vote No to DeVos!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_Senators
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,207
    No
    unsung said:

    The better question should be why is there an unconstitutional federal dept of education? That is a state issue.

    You sound home-schooled
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 3,004
    CM189191 said:

    unsung said:

    The better question should be why is there an unconstitutional federal dept of education? That is a state issue.

    You sound home-schooled
    What's wrong with home school?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • a5pj said:

    Free said:

    She's not in yet.

    "Despite clearing a key procedural hurdle (today), DeVos’ eventual confirmation by the full Senate remained an open question as members of her own party told CNN wouldn’t commit to voting for her."

    https://www.google.com/amp/ktla.com/2017/01/31/betsy-devos-trumps-education-secretary-pick-clears-senate-committee-in-nomination-hurdle/amp/?client=safari

    Call and e-mail your senator, I did.
    I emailed both of mine but when I tried to call their voice mail was full. Ben Bridwell of Band of Horses tried to call Senator Scott and even tweeted him. Still, both senators support her.
    I'm through with screaming
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 24,483
    No

    Cardin & van Hollen and both blocking her.

    Need one more republican
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