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I've been reading a lot of people saying they prefer arena shows to stadium shows on the tour rumor thread. Curious as to why. Is it the acoustics? I've seen shows at both (only stadium for PJ), but I personally enjoy a stadium show. Nothing like a nice summer night outdoors watching your favorite band. Acoustically, I thought it sounded incredible at Wrigley. I'm interested to hear other's perspectives.

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Brian
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    JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 3,931
    Arena. Holds the sound in better and it's more intimate. Plus weather isn't a factor.
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    KC138045KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,715
    JojoRice said:

    Arena. Holds the sound in better and it's more intimate. Plus weather isn't a factor.

    Bingo ^^^
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    WindowPaineWindowPaine Chicopee, MA Posts: 493
    i honestly hate both. pearl jam is only band that i will go see in an arena/stadium. i'd rather be in a club with 1000 or less people. huge shows are just such a drag. luckily i'm usually pretty close for pj. call me a snob but if i can't actually SEE the band and i mean like their fingers on the fretboard, then i'd rather not even be there. i can watch it on youtube haha

    but to answer the original question: arena. it's smaller
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,846
    JojoRice said:

    Arena. Holds the sound in better and it's more intimate. Plus weather isn't a factor.

    This

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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    edited January 2017
    Stadium. Because its usually a huge event and i like when i can see 75,000 people (mostly casual fans or non-fans) getting blown away by my boys
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    dannydanny Posts: 2,270
    arena
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    derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    edited January 2017
    I actually prefer shows at outdoor amphitheaters!!
    We have a GREAT venue here in Columbus that holds around 6,000 people for outdoor shows.
    The venue also has an indoor "club" that uses the same stage,
    and they have an INCREDIBLE sound system!!
    It's a little too small for a PJ show...
    but have seen My Morning Jacket, Beck, Band Of Horses, The National,
    Modest Mouse, The Black Crowes, The Killers, Flaming Lips, Jane's Addiction, Wilco and many other groups there!!
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    chitownp76chitownp76 Posts: 1,438
    1. Arenas
    2. Stadiums
    3. Festivals

    Im not greedy, Ill just be happy if I see PJ in any of these types of venues in 2017
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,883
    JojoRice said:

    Arena. Holds the sound in better and it's more intimate. Plus weather isn't a factor.

    totally agree with this!
    Although the occasional stadium show thrown in is very nice. (fenway was killer!)
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    deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    derbydave said:

    I actually prefer shows at outdoor amphitheaters!!
    We have a GREAT venue here in Columbus that holds around 6,000 people for outdoor shows.
    The venue also has an indoor "club" that uses the same stage,
    and they have an INCREDIBLE sound system!!
    It's a little too small for a PJ show...
    but have seen My Morning Jacket, Beck, Band Of Horses, The National,
    Modest Mouse, The Black Crowes, The Killers, Flaming Lips, Jane's Addiction, Wilco and many other groups there!!

    Let's skip the mid-October show. :teeth chattering: MM was a rather chilly show! However, it was a GREAT show and they do have an incredible sound system. EL is on my list of venues to return to.

    While I admit that I screen watched most of the time despite being mid field at Wrigley, I wouldn't trade that show for anything in the world. A BIG thanks to friends who upgraded my tickets so that my husband and I could be where we were. (We could have done without the puker, though.) The weather finally cooperated right before the show and it was a fabulous night!

    I have had great tickets at places- up front, rail and all that. I have had tickets where we could have gone Sistine on the ceilings. Still, sound is everything to me and I guess I would prefer an awesome sound rather than beads of sweat flying onto me.
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    BLACK35BLACK35 Hanover, Ontario Posts: 22,469
    JojoRice said:

    Arena. Holds the sound in better and it's more intimate. Plus weather isn't a factor.

    This is why I prefer arenas
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    LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,005
    Always outdoor arenas. Music sounds better outside.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
    I'll take what they give me, but if I had my preference it would be an arena.

    Indoors is the way to go.
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    motarmotar Posts: 141
    Clubs.
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,744
    Arenas for sure. The occasional stadium show is fun, but I'd much rather see an arena show where the majority of seats aren't a mile away from the stage.
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,157
    It depends. If I'm at the front of either than I don't really care. In fact being in the first 10 to 20 rows at a Stadium show is pretty epic. I saw 3 stadium shows this year. GNR, Pearl Jam x 2, and was in the pits for all 3 of 'em. It's pretty sweet the energy that a Stadium show brings.

    That being said there's many drawbacks of stadium shows. Mostly from the extra shittonne of people you don't have at an arena show. Plus even the worst ticket in an arena is still better than more than half the tickets at a stadium.

    Overall I prefer Arena shows. Less insanity and smaller/intimate venues. I still like stadium shows though, I just like arena ones a bit better.
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    ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,964
    depends on the venue. PJ in Wrigley was way better than PJ in Milwaukee acoustic wise for me.
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    WashedWashed Posts: 736
    I was at Wrigley this year and have been to a ton of PJ shows in arenas and "sheds" (the outdoor amphitheaters) and to me arenas are better by a very large margin. Seeing them at Wrigley was amazing because it was different and novel and held special meaning for the band, but sight lines and sounds don't compare with arenas. I won't break the bank to see them in another baseball stadium.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Arena... all day
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    crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,418
    Arena. Stadiums are awesome also, but flaws depend on where you are seated. I've been to a few stadium shows (non-PJ, so non-ballparks) and whenever I'm midfield, there seems to be a snare echo that comes from the the other end of the field. It's like wearing headphones that aren't in sync. I hear the snare in one ear then the other, half a second later. Weird that it's just the snare drum that echoes and nothing else. Can tune it out for the most part but gets annoying at times. BUT with PJ, I don't care where it is.
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    Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Big ass stadium shows..ive never heard a bad sounding pj show at any type of venue and I've seen the band so many times I could really care less where my seats are. If they are very bad I usually respectfully walk around and make friends in better areas.

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    camel1206camel1206 Chicago Posts: 65
    Being at all 3 Wrigley shows, I never want to look at weather forecast again. lol

    I know it won't happen, but maybe the guys can stick to the Riv or Aragon.
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    derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    deadendp said:

    derbydave said:

    I actually prefer shows at outdoor amphitheaters!!
    We have a GREAT venue here in Columbus that holds around 6,000 people for outdoor shows.
    The venue also has an indoor "club" that uses the same stage,
    and they have an INCREDIBLE sound system!!
    It's a little too small for a PJ show...
    but have seen My Morning Jacket, Beck, Band Of Horses, The National,
    Modest Mouse, The Black Crowes, The Killers, Flaming Lips, Jane's Addiction, Wilco and many other groups there!!

    Let's skip the mid-October show. :teeth chattering: MM was a rather chilly show! However, it was a GREAT show and they do have an incredible sound system. EL is on my list of venues to return to.

    While I admit that I screen watched most of the time despite being mid field at Wrigley, I wouldn't trade that show for anything in the world. A BIG thanks to friends who upgraded my tickets so that my husband and I could be where we were. (We could have done without the puker, though.) The weather finally cooperated right before the show and it was a fabulous night!

    I have had great tickets at places- up front, rail and all that. I have had tickets where we could have gone Sistine on the ceilings. Still, sound is everything to me and I guess I would prefer an awesome sound rather than beads of sweat flying onto me.
    AGREED...
    Modest Mouse was a COLD show!!!
    I'd choose an outdoor show over an arena any day...
    Red Rocks, The Gorge, Alpine Valley, even Deer Creek in Indianapolis,
    nothing beats GREAT music under the stars!!
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    Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    camel1206 said:

    Being at all 3 Wrigley shows, I never want to look at weather forecast again. lol

    I know it won't happen, but maybe the guys can stick to the Riv or Aragon.

    Why not Lincoln hall or Park West?? Lol
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    camel1206camel1206 Chicago Posts: 65
    edited January 2017
    Lol Park West is such an odd venue. I wasn't living here when they played Metro or the Vic. Maybe they could just randomly show up at Shubas one night.

    Anyhoo, not to take away from the thread, but yeah, I prefer anything indoors.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,967
    Arena....although my preference is outdoor venues like Alpine Valley or Klipsch in Noblesville
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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,517
    Europeans & South Americans have stadium shows down to a science. Arenas work best in Canada and the States.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited January 2017
    derbydave said:

    deadendp said:

    derbydave said:

    I actually prefer shows at outdoor amphitheaters!!
    We have a GREAT venue here in Columbus that holds around 6,000 people for outdoor shows.
    The venue also has an indoor "club" that uses the same stage,
    and they have an INCREDIBLE sound system!!
    It's a little too small for a PJ show...
    but have seen My Morning Jacket, Beck, Band Of Horses, The National,
    Modest Mouse, The Black Crowes, The Killers, Flaming Lips, Jane's Addiction, Wilco and many other groups there!!

    Let's skip the mid-October show. :teeth chattering: MM was a rather chilly show! However, it was a GREAT show and they do have an incredible sound system. EL is on my list of venues to return to.

    While I admit that I screen watched most of the time despite being mid field at Wrigley, I wouldn't trade that show for anything in the world. A BIG thanks to friends who upgraded my tickets so that my husband and I could be where we were. (We could have done without the puker, though.) The weather finally cooperated right before the show and it was a fabulous night!

    I have had great tickets at places- up front, rail and all that. I have had tickets where we could have gone Sistine on the ceilings. Still, sound is everything to me and I guess I would prefer an awesome sound rather than beads of sweat flying onto me.
    AGREED...
    Modest Mouse was a COLD show!!!
    I'd choose an outdoor show over an arena any day...
    Red Rocks, The Gorge, Alpine Valley, even Deer Creek in Indianapolis,
    nothing beats GREAT music under the stars!!
    Those aren't your normal outdoor venues...

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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
    Arena...no doubt about it.
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Arenas for sure. Stadiums hold lots of people, but sound and sightlines will always be sub-optimal.
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