Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,283
    tbergs said:
    Leave it to Ted Cruz to ask about Clinton's email. Divert.
    Hillary, Hillary, Hillary!!!

    Obama, Obama. Obama!!!
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,999
    edited May 2017

    As I understand it, Cruz didn't ask a single question about Flynn, it's good to know he has his priorities straight.

    Another concerning thing about yesterday's hearing was Trump's live tweeting as he was watching. He is so mentally weak and lacking of control over his emotions, and that was on full display for all the world to see. We are so f'ed when a real crisis eventually comes up.


    America is the laughing stock of the world right now, and rightfully so.

    Post edited by Merkin Baller on

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,086
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 4,892

    As I understand it, Cruz didn't ask a single question about Flynn, it's good to know he has his priorities straight.

    Another concerning thing about yesterday's hearing was Trump's live tweeting as he was watching. He is so mentally weak and lacking of control over his emotions, and that was on full display for all the world to see. We are so f'ed when a real crisis eventually comes up.


    America is the laughing stock of the world right now, and rightfully so.

    Besides the fact that he had this smarmy know it all half grin on his face when he was asking his questions. He is such a sleaze ball. There's no way he should hold a seat in the senate. Yates was great though. She didn't get arrogant, she was calm and very well prepared. As much as they were trying to push for it being a personal decision by her, she laid out everything very well.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,086
    James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, having served republican administrations and the Trump transition team is warning about Russia hacking the 25% of internet enabled voting machines (Diebold comes to mind but I might be mistaken) that leave no paper trail for recount purposes. What exactly is the Trump Administration doing about it? What are the mostly republican governors doing about this? Oh yea, they don't care as long as they can cling to power.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,999
    James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, having served republican administrations and the Trump transition team is warning about Russia hacking the 25% of internet enabled voting machines (Diebold comes to mind but I might be mistaken) that leave no paper trail for recount purposes. What exactly is the Trump Administration doing about it? What are the mostly republican governors doing about this? Oh yea, they don't care as long as they can cling to power.

    They're too busy asking Sally Yates questions about e-mails.

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,247
    James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, having served republican administrations and the Trump transition team is warning about Russia hacking the 25% of internet enabled voting machines (Diebold comes to mind but I might be mistaken) that leave no paper trail for recount purposes. What exactly is the Trump Administration doing about it? What are the mostly republican governors doing about this? Oh yea, they don't care as long as they can cling to power.

    They're too busy asking Sally Yates questions about e-mails.
    and from what I've seen, she is embarassing them all. 

    Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,086
    James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, having served republican administrations and the Trump transition team is warning about Russia hacking the 25% of internet enabled voting machines (Diebold comes to mind but I might be mistaken) that leave no paper trail for recount purposes. What exactly is the Trump Administration doing about it? What are the mostly republican governors doing about this? Oh yea, they don't care as long as they can cling to power.

    They're too busy asking Sally Yates questions about e-mails.
    and from what I've seen, she is embarassing them all. 

    Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself. 
    Ted Cruz has no shame.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,812
    James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, having served republican administrations and the Trump transition team is warning about Russia hacking the 25% of internet enabled voting machines (Diebold comes to mind but I might be mistaken) that leave no paper trail for recount purposes. What exactly is the Trump Administration doing about it? What are the mostly republican governors doing about this? Oh yea, they don't care as long as they can cling to power.

    They're too busy asking Sally Yates questions about e-mails.
    and from what I've seen, she is embarassing them all. 

    Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself. 
    Ted Cruz has no shame.
    So true.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 4,892
    edited May 2017
    James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, having served republican administrations and the Trump transition team is warning about Russia hacking the 25% of internet enabled voting machines (Diebold comes to mind but I might be mistaken) that leave no paper trail for recount purposes. What exactly is the Trump Administration doing about it? What are the mostly republican governors doing about this? Oh yea, they don't care as long as they can cling to power.

    They're too busy asking Sally Yates questions about e-mails.
    and from what I've seen, she is embarassing them all. 

    Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself. 
    I was just thinking about this and what was so impressive about her yesterday was her ability to formulate clear and understandable answers. Which isn't something we should have to set as a standard. We're so used to double talk, nonsense and outright lies that it's refreshing to hear someone who actually knows what they are talking about and is truthful.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,568
    PJ_Soul said:
    James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, having served republican administrations and the Trump transition team is warning about Russia hacking the 25% of internet enabled voting machines (Diebold comes to mind but I might be mistaken) that leave no paper trail for recount purposes. What exactly is the Trump Administration doing about it? What are the mostly republican governors doing about this? Oh yea, they don't care as long as they can cling to power.

    They're too busy asking Sally Yates questions about e-mails.
    and from what I've seen, she is embarassing them all. 

    Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself. 
    Ted Cruz has no shame.
    So true.
    Not to be crass, but he's literally a political whore.  The guy has no principles, only those that net him a victory.  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,247
    tbergs said:
    James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, having served republican administrations and the Trump transition team is warning about Russia hacking the 25% of internet enabled voting machines (Diebold comes to mind but I might be mistaken) that leave no paper trail for recount purposes. What exactly is the Trump Administration doing about it? What are the mostly republican governors doing about this? Oh yea, they don't care as long as they can cling to power.

    They're too busy asking Sally Yates questions about e-mails.
    and from what I've seen, she is embarassing them all. 

    Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself. 
    I was just thinking about this and what was so impressive about her yesterday was her ability to formulate clear and understandable answers. Which isn't something we should have to set as a standard. We're so used to double talk, nonsense and outright lies that it's refreshing to hear someone who actually knows what they are talking about and is truthful.
    to me it wasn't just that. it was that she had a rebuttal for every single point, without having to take a break to do any research. someone that prepared on the minutiae of the constitution should be heralded. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,086
    Is anyone tracking the number of Russia-Trump related headlines? In all of their brilliance? Brilliant lights of brilliance brilliantly shining will expose the truth, in case you were in the dark. Or blinded by the light of Trumposian brilliance.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 6,427

    CNN exclusive: Grand jury subpoenas issued in FBI's Russia investigation

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/grand-jury-fbi-russia/index.html
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,086


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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,999

    I'm still waiting for the whole Trump Russia story to die down, as predicted by so many resident scholars in this thread probably as far back as page 2 (in the event you didn't notice, we're on page 52 & there's no end in sight).


  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,386
    James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, having served republican administrations and the Trump transition team is warning about Russia hacking the 25% of internet enabled voting machines (Diebold comes to mind but I might be mistaken) that leave no paper trail for recount purposes. What exactly is the Trump Administration doing about it? What are the mostly republican governors doing about this? Oh yea, they don't care as long as they can cling to power.

    They're too busy asking Sally Yates questions about e-mails.
    and from what I've seen, she is embarassing them all. 

    Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself. 
    Ted Cruz has no shame.
    And no guts any man that lets another insult their wife and does nothing is a coward as most of the GOP are starting with Ryan  ! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,086

    I'm still waiting for the whole Trump Russia story to die down, as predicted by so many resident scholars in this thread probably as far back as page 2 (in the event you didn't notice, we're on page 52 & there's no end in sight).

    Well, there's this brilliant article headlining today, maybe the last?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/opinions/trump-comey-huge-trouble-opinion-callan/index.html
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,999

    I'm still waiting for the whole Trump Russia story to die down, as predicted by so many resident scholars in this thread probably as far back as page 2 (in the event you didn't notice, we're on page 52 & there's no end in sight).

    Well, there's this brilliant article headlining today, maybe the last?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/opinions/trump-comey-huge-trouble-opinion-callan/index.html

    Definitely the last headline, I mean it has to be right?

    We all know the Trump supporters are never wrong, so I expect this story to disappear any day now.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,568
    dignin said:

    CNN exclusive: Grand jury subpoenas issued in FBI's Russia investigation

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/grand-jury-fbi-russia/index.html
    It was a Saturday Night Massacre.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,247
    as much as I want to believe this is the  beginning of the end, do we really believe that trump wasn't shielded from any possible proof of knowledge? i'm not saying he's brilliant, but you can't just pull this stuff off being an amateur, and I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to leave a paper trail that leads back to Trump. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 6,427
    as much as I want to believe this is the  beginning of the end, do we really believe that trump wasn't shielded from any possible proof of knowledge? i'm not saying he's brilliant, but you can't just pull this stuff off being an amateur, and I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to leave a paper trail that leads back to Trump. 
    I think they and him are that dumb.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,568
    dignin said:
    as much as I want to believe this is the  beginning of the end, do we really believe that trump wasn't shielded from any possible proof of knowledge? i'm not saying he's brilliant, but you can't just pull this stuff off being an amateur, and I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to leave a paper trail that leads back to Trump. 
    I think they and him are that dumb.
    I was wondering that today.. are they that stupid or do they think that we're that stupid?  But then I read an article in Politico today where the WH thought that Democrats and Republicans would both applaud the termination and this blow back is taking them by surprise.  So the answer is... they're that fucking stupid. 
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,247
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    as much as I want to believe this is the  beginning of the end, do we really believe that trump wasn't shielded from any possible proof of knowledge? i'm not saying he's brilliant, but you can't just pull this stuff off being an amateur, and I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to leave a paper trail that leads back to Trump. 
    I think they and him are that dumb.
    I was wondering that today.. are they that stupid or do they think that we're that stupid?  But then I read an article in Politico today where the WH thought that Democrats and Republicans would both applaud the termination and this blow back is taking them by surprise.  So the answer is... they're that fucking stupid. 
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192
    jesus. maybe they are that stupid. 
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,251
    as much as I want to believe this is the  beginning of the end, do we really believe that trump wasn't shielded from any possible proof of knowledge? i'm not saying he's brilliant, but you can't just pull this stuff off being an amateur, and I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to leave a paper trail that leads back to Trump. 
    I wonder the same.  I think I would have more concern if Trump was loyal to those who are loyal to him, but if he keeps firing everyone who does his dirty work, he won't have anybody to protect him from himself.  Somebody has legitimate dirt on him, at this point it seems likely that he will fire one of the wrong people at some point.
    Comey is now an enemy.
    Flynn is just going to save himself, Trump be damned.
    Who's next?  Sessions?  Tillerson?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,247
    or maybe Flynn Jr. 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 4,892
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    as much as I want to believe this is the  beginning of the end, do we really believe that trump wasn't shielded from any possible proof of knowledge? i'm not saying he's brilliant, but you can't just pull this stuff off being an amateur, and I can't imagine they'd be dumb enough to leave a paper trail that leads back to Trump. 
    I think they and him are that dumb.
    I was wondering that today.. are they that stupid or do they think that we're that stupid?  But then I read an article in Politico today where the WH thought that Democrats and Republicans would both applaud the termination and this blow back is taking them by surprise.  So the answer is... they're that fucking stupid. 
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/10/comey-firing-trump-russia-238192
    Arrogance and pride almost always lead to the downfall of any person who has every had this type of power and abused it. Nixon was a smart guy, but you get greedy and start pushing the envelope more and more. It's hard covering your tracks everyday. We will never fully know the extent of what has gone on and it may well be only a minor part of it that takes down the whole shit show.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,730

    I'm still waiting for the whole Trump Russia story to die down, as predicted by so many resident scholars in this thread probably as far back as page 2 (in the event you didn't notice, we're on page 52 & there's no end in sight).

    It has died down. 50 pages and not a single new detail. Just because you won't stop talking about it doesn't mean you are any further ahead. I don't doubt you will still be talking about it for years to come.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,568
    BS44325 said:

    I'm still waiting for the whole Trump Russia story to die down, as predicted by so many resident scholars in this thread probably as far back as page 2 (in the event you didn't notice, we're on page 52 & there's no end in sight).

    It has died down. 50 pages and not a single new detail. Just because you won't stop talking about it doesn't mean you are any further ahead. I don't doubt you will still be talking about it for years to come.
    How can you say that after two different sets of subpoenas in the last 48 hours? Are you delusional or not paying attention?
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