Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,226

    Looks like Roger may have been drinking & tweeting last night.

    "Roger Stone claims he has 'perfectly legal back channel' to Julian Assange"

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/05/roger-stone-trump-adviser-julian-assange?CMP=share_btn_tw

    "During the campaign last August, Stone was recorded on video telling a group of Florida Republicans: “I actually have communicated with Assange.”

    “I believe the next tranche of his documents pertain to the Clinton Foundation, but there’s no telling what the October surprise may be,” he said.

    He then seemed to preview the WikiLeaks dump of Podesta emails, writing on Twitter: “Trust me, it will soon the Podesta’s time in the barrel.” "




    But let's keep talking about Obama, right everybody?

  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USAPosts: 2,108
    one of the missing links to all of this are Russian oligarchs for which Trump was providing dirt on to Moscow. Seems like those people will be known to us soon.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Portland, ORPosts: 28,963
    vaggar99 said:

    one of the missing links to all of this are Russian oligarchs for which Trump was providing dirt on to Moscow. Seems like those people will be known to us soon.

    yup. just a matter of time.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 11,917
    CM189191 said:

    Exxon Mobil, under Rex Tillerson, brokered a deal with Russia in 2013 to lease over 60 million acres of Russian land to pump oil out of (which is five times as much land as they lease in this country), but all that Russian oil would go through pipelines in the Ukraine, who heavily tax the proceeds, and Ukraine was applying for admission into NATO at the time.

    Putin subsequently invaded Ukraine in 2014, secured the routes to export the oil tax-free by sea, and took control of the port where their Black Sea Naval Fleet is based, by taking the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine by force. This was imperialism that broke every international law in the free world.

    After Obama sanctioned Russia for the invasion, Exxon Mobil could only pump oil from approximately 3 of those 60+ million acres. But now Rex Tillerson is soon to be our Secretary of State, and as of today, there's information circulating that Donald Trump will likely unilaterally remove all sanctions against Russia in the coming days or weeks.

    The Russian government's oil company, Rosneft, will make half a trillion (500 Billion) dollars from that much untapped oil, all pumped tax-free through Crimea, stolen from Ukraine, now owned by Russia. Putin may have subverted our government just for this deal to go through.

    19.5% or $20 Billion worth of Russian Oil Giant Was transferred to new owners in December. The identities of the new owners is unknown. The corporate shell is a Cayman islands registered designed for anonymous ownership.

    Absolutely bingo

    And this Bafoon thinks he's going to get away with it
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 6,466
    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 2,226
    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    How willfully ignorant must a person be to not be able to connect the dots?

    How is any this good for the world?

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 7,441
    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 1,992
    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Laid the foundation, framed the building, wired, plumbed and dry-walled is more like it.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,025
    CM189191 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Laid the foundation, framed the building, wired, plumbed and dry-walled is more like it.
    Those pesky evangelicals and their second coming nonsense. They just have to prove it to everyone that we're all going to hell.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 34,500
    edited March 7
    I read an article the other day about how literally everyone at the State Department is sitting around twiddling their thumbs all day, every day. The cafeteria is full at all hours because there is nothing to do besides sit around, eat, drink coffee, and fuck around on smartphones. The rest of the place is practically a ghost town because there is absolutely no business being conducted. This is apparently how Trump and friends want it at the moment (or at least are incapable of making anything useful happen). It's absolutely ludicrous.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,347
    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,025
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Funny, but who's policy is driving ISIS out of Iraq? Funny, but Russia and syria with hezbhola are driving Isis from Syria and North Korea fired 4 missiles in the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile the seventh fleet is patrolling the South China Sea and missile defenses have been sent to South Korea. Who's policies are these? What exactly has the trump administration formulated and implemented as a policy to address these threats again, professor? Other than to lie about 300 gitmo detainees being released by Obama. Facts, those damn pesky facts.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 6,466
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Yeah..who's the conservative? I can live with conservatives. I can't live with a fucking Nationalist with Leninist tendencies.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 6,466

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Funny, but who's policy is driving ISIS out of Iraq? Funny, but Russia and syria with hezbhola are driving Isis from Syria and North Korea fired 4 missiles in the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile the seventh fleet is patrolling the South China Sea and missile defenses have been sent to South Korea. Who's policies are these? What exactly has the trump administration formulated and implemented as a policy to address these threats again, professor? Other than to lie about 300 gitmo detainees being released by Obama. Facts, those damn pesky facts.
    True dat. Has there been a response about N. Korea....a statement? Anything?
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Portland, ORPosts: 28,963
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Yeah..who's the conservative? I can live with conservatives. I can't live with a fucking Nationalist with Leninist tendencies.
    Same here.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Portland, ORPosts: 28,963
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Funny, but who's policy is driving ISIS out of Iraq? Funny, but Russia and syria with hezbhola are driving Isis from Syria and North Korea fired 4 missiles in the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile the seventh fleet is patrolling the South China Sea and missile defenses have been sent to South Korea. Who's policies are these? What exactly has the trump administration formulated and implemented as a policy to address these threats again, professor? Other than to lie about 300 gitmo detainees being released by Obama. Facts, those damn pesky facts.
    True dat. Has there been a response about N. Korea....a statement? Anything?
    Nothing that I've seen/heard/read/etc/etc....
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,025
    Oh my, what might this mean? The Russia story is done? Oh, dear!

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/fbi-investigation-continues-into-odd-computer-link-between-russian-bank-and-trump-organization/index.html

    Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Portland, ORPosts: 28,963

    Oh my, what might this mean? The Russia story is done? Oh, dear!

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/fbi-investigation-continues-into-odd-computer-link-between-russian-bank-and-trump-organization/index.html

    Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.

    yup...not even close to being done. the fat lady lady hasn't even started warming up yet.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,025
    mfc2006 said:

    Oh my, what might this mean? The Russia story is done? Oh, dear!

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/fbi-investigation-continues-into-odd-computer-link-between-russian-bank-and-trump-organization/index.html

    Follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.

    yup...not even close to being done. the fat lady lady hasn't even started warming up yet.
    She'll start warming up on March 20th when the real fun begins.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,347
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Funny, but who's policy is driving ISIS out of Iraq? Funny, but Russia and syria with hezbhola are driving Isis from Syria and North Korea fired 4 missiles in the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile the seventh fleet is patrolling the South China Sea and missile defenses have been sent to South Korea. Who's policies are these? What exactly has the trump administration formulated and implemented as a policy to address these threats again, professor? Other than to lie about 300 gitmo detainees being released by Obama. Facts, those damn pesky facts.
    True dat. Has there been a response about N. Korea....a statement? Anything?
    Defensive missles to South Korea is a statement. Flying B52 nuclear bombers is a statement. Refusing talks for talks sake at the UN is a statement. Pressuring China to cut off coal purchases and to take a tougher stand with North Korea is a statement. Plenty of statements are being made but you just have to know where to look. Tillerson is heading out east next week where additional statements will be made.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,025
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Funny, but who's policy is driving ISIS out of Iraq? Funny, but Russia and syria with hezbhola are driving Isis from Syria and North Korea fired 4 missiles in the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile the seventh fleet is patrolling the South China Sea and missile defenses have been sent to South Korea. Who's policies are these? What exactly has the trump administration formulated and implemented as a policy to address these threats again, professor? Other than to lie about 300 gitmo detainees being released by Obama. Facts, those damn pesky facts.
    True dat. Has there been a response about N. Korea....a statement? Anything?
    Defensive missles to South Korea is a statement. Flying B52 nuclear bombers is a statement. Refusing talks for talks sake at the UN is a statement. Pressuring China to cut off coal purchases and to take a tougher stand with North Korea is a statement. Plenty of statements are being made but you just have to know where to look. Tillerson is heading out east next week where additional statements will be made.
    Funny, you didn't say any of this type of thing when Obama was countering China in the South China Sea. But we know you're a partisan neocon.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 6,466
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Funny, but who's policy is driving ISIS out of Iraq? Funny, but Russia and syria with hezbhola are driving Isis from Syria and North Korea fired 4 missiles in the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile the seventh fleet is patrolling the South China Sea and missile defenses have been sent to South Korea. Who's policies are these? What exactly has the trump administration formulated and implemented as a policy to address these threats again, professor? Other than to lie about 300 gitmo detainees being released by Obama. Facts, those damn pesky facts.
    True dat. Has there been a response about N. Korea....a statement? Anything?
    Defensive missles to South Korea is a statement. Flying B52 nuclear bombers is a statement. Refusing talks for talks sake at the UN is a statement. Pressuring China to cut off coal purchases and to take a tougher stand with North Korea is a statement. Plenty of statements are being made but you just have to know where to look. Tillerson is heading out east next week where additional statements will be made.
    Are you saying that we sent a new, unplanned shipment of missiles to S. Korea? Did we fly unscheduled sorties? Link please.. I haven't seen that.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,347
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Funny, but who's policy is driving ISIS out of Iraq? Funny, but Russia and syria with hezbhola are driving Isis from Syria and North Korea fired 4 missiles in the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile the seventh fleet is patrolling the South China Sea and missile defenses have been sent to South Korea. Who's policies are these? What exactly has the trump administration formulated and implemented as a policy to address these threats again, professor? Other than to lie about 300 gitmo detainees being released by Obama. Facts, those damn pesky facts.
    True dat. Has there been a response about N. Korea....a statement? Anything?
    Defensive missles to South Korea is a statement. Flying B52 nuclear bombers is a statement. Refusing talks for talks sake at the UN is a statement. Pressuring China to cut off coal purchases and to take a tougher stand with North Korea is a statement. Plenty of statements are being made but you just have to know where to look. Tillerson is heading out east next week where additional statements will be made.
    Are you saying that we sent a new, unplanned shipment of missiles to S. Korea? Did we fly unscheduled sorties? Link please.. I haven't seen that.
    Here are links to both

    https://www.google.ca/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN16D2MC

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3049573/donald-trump-sends-b-52-nuclear-bombers-to-south-korea-after-north-fires-missiles-at-japan-and-us-warns-of-overwhelming-response/
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,025
    It's continuation of Obama policy. Trump wasn't even taking intelligence briefings in the early days and I doubt he knows what questions to ask of his generals and advisors to formulate a military response. But hey, nobody knows the military as well as Trump.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,347

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Funny, but who's policy is driving ISIS out of Iraq? Funny, but Russia and syria with hezbhola are driving Isis from Syria and North Korea fired 4 missiles in the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile the seventh fleet is patrolling the South China Sea and missile defenses have been sent to South Korea. Who's policies are these? What exactly has the trump administration formulated and implemented as a policy to address these threats again, professor? Other than to lie about 300 gitmo detainees being released by Obama. Facts, those damn pesky facts.
    True dat. Has there been a response about N. Korea....a statement? Anything?
    Defensive missles to South Korea is a statement. Flying B52 nuclear bombers is a statement. Refusing talks for talks sake at the UN is a statement. Pressuring China to cut off coal purchases and to take a tougher stand with North Korea is a statement. Plenty of statements are being made but you just have to know where to look. Tillerson is heading out east next week where additional statements will be made.
    Funny, you didn't say any of this type of thing when Obama was countering China in the South China Sea. But we know you're a partisan neocon.
    Because nobody took Obama's "countering" seriously. He has no red lines.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 6,025
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    It's really very scary, I grew up thinking another world war was impossible, but modern conservatism is laying the foundation for it.
    Yeah. It was all going well for the last 8 years under the reset but those pesky conservatives fucked it all up.
    Funny, but who's policy is driving ISIS out of Iraq? Funny, but Russia and syria with hezbhola are driving Isis from Syria and North Korea fired 4 missiles in the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile the seventh fleet is patrolling the South China Sea and missile defenses have been sent to South Korea. Who's policies are these? What exactly has the trump administration formulated and implemented as a policy to address these threats again, professor? Other than to lie about 300 gitmo detainees being released by Obama. Facts, those damn pesky facts.
    True dat. Has there been a response about N. Korea....a statement? Anything?
    Defensive missles to South Korea is a statement. Flying B52 nuclear bombers is a statement. Refusing talks for talks sake at the UN is a statement. Pressuring China to cut off coal purchases and to take a tougher stand with North Korea is a statement. Plenty of statements are being made but you just have to know where to look. Tillerson is heading out east next week where additional statements will be made.
    Funny, you didn't say any of this type of thing when Obama was countering China in the South China Sea. But we know you're a partisan neocon.
    Because nobody took Obama's "countering" seriously. He has no red lines.
    But the chemical weapons were removed from Syria, weren't they? Because the neocon mind considers anything short of war to be an abject failure, right professor? Iran have the bomb yet? You know the one Israel guaranteed they'd have if we went ahead with that nuclear deal. Oh by the way, has Trump scrapped it yet?
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 2,509

    mrussel1 said:

    Of course not. Putin pushed for Brexit for obvious reasons, and also supports Le Pen in France. 19th century Nationalism is rising from the grave.
    How willfully ignorant must a person be to not be able to connect the dots?

    How is any this good for the world?
    See all Trump voters and supporters
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