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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,524
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?

    I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.

    Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.

    And that's a shame.

    The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.
    Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.

    Newsflash: Hillary lost.
    No, I didn't want to start a fight at all. I was just making a statement. Maybe take something from what I said, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?

    I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.

    Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.

    And that's a shame.

    The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.
    Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.

    Newsflash: Hillary lost.
    No, I didn't want to start a fight at all. I was just making a statement. Maybe take something from what I said, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.
    Of course you think you're right.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,820
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?

    I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.

    Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.

    And that's a shame.

    The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.
    Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.

    Newsflash: Hillary lost.
    No, I didn't want to start a fight at all. I was just making a statement. Maybe take something from what I said, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.
    Of course you think you're right.
    well, in the spirit of context, did you frame it that way to your family? "hillary/you lost, get over it"?
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,524
    edited November 2016
    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?

    I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.

    Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.

    And that's a shame.

    The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.
    Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.

    Newsflash: Hillary lost.
    No, I didn't want to start a fight at all. I was just making a statement. Maybe take something from what I said, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.
    Of course you think you're right.
    Oh dear, was that a personal insult? I thought you were against those. Especially the hypocritical ones.
    Are you suggesting you aren't a part of the problem?? Seems pretty damn unlikely.
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Knowing what you wrote pre-edit, I refuse to engage you.
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Talk about division.

    Sheesh!
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    This thread is the best ever.
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    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    breaking families apart? the presidency? what the hell?

    When your kid (nephew) worked for the state Dems, and is now working as a lobbyist (Nat'l Restaurant Assoc), and you vote for Trump?

    Yeah, I guess so. Some people can't keep perspective of what's truly important in life. Their politics get in the way.
    I'm confused about who is to blame? The father who voted for Trump? The kid for being a lobbyist? Did one of them disown the other?
    Neither is to blame, but my fam seems to think anyone who didn't vote Hillary is WRONG. It's the wrong way to deal w/ things, esp. with loved ones, for god's sake.
    crazy. we have pretty open discussions about politics if it comes up; my father in law is a staunch NDP guy (union), I think being partisan is stupid. he basically believes in one aspect of the party (for the worker) and will vote down party lines no matter what. i don't get it. my parents usually vote depending on platform, not party. my bigot brother most likely votes conservative every time, but i can't say for sure. he's outspoken on religion, but doesn't talk politics much. probably because he knows he'd be the only one at the table with his beliefs. well, besides his wife and brainwashed son.

    that reminds me. i'd better check facebook to see if he's posted any memes about how christmas is for heterosexuals.
    I thought Obama canceled Christmas?
    huh?
    I thought that since Obama has held office you weren't allowed to say "Christmas" and that in fact you couldn't celebrate Christmas at all. Only kwanza and Ramadan. Don't you remember the conservative outrage on Fox and Friends? Short attention spans indeed.
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    If you're not gonna discuss without trying to start a fight, I will not engage you.
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Free said:

    If you're not gonna discuss without trying to start a fight, I will not engage you.

    To whom is that addressed?

    Much of what I've read in this thread doesn't seem like anyone has been looking for a rumble.

    (but if so, I'm curious who are the Sharks and who are the Jets)
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?

    I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.

    Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.

    And that's a shame.

    The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.
    Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.

    Newsflash: Hillary lost.
    No, I didn't want to start a fight at all. I was just making a statement. Maybe take something from what I said, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.
    Of course you think you're right.
    well, in the spirit of context, did you frame it that way to your family? "hillary/you lost, get over it"?
    Hugh, I was not involved. I talked about my ex BIL, my nephew and the rest of my family being Hillary supporters that continue to blame others for her loss.
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    Well, there is Winnipeg and San Jose.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    As far as cities go, San Jose is going to beat Winnipeg in almost any measure.

    Sorry, HFD.
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    hedonist said:

    Free said:

    If you're not gonna discuss without trying to start a fight, I will not engage you.

    To whom is that addressed?

    Much of what I've read in this thread doesn't seem like anyone has been looking for a rumble.

    (but if so, I'm curious who are the Sharks and who are the Jets)
    And who gets to be Officer Krupke??
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    hedonist said:

    Free said:

    If you're not gonna discuss without trying to start a fight, I will not engage you.

    To whom is that addressed?

    Much of what I've read in this thread doesn't seem like anyone has been looking for a rumble.

    (but if so, I'm curious who are the Sharks and who are the Jets)
    And who gets to be Officer Krupke??
    I know the answer but I ain't saying.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,524
    edited November 2016
    Free said:

    Knowing what you wrote pre-edit, I refuse to engage you.

    What did I write pre-edit? I have no clue, but am very comfortable with you repeating it, whatever it was. (I thought I simply added that you're a hypocrite, but maybe I forgot something?)
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524

    hedonist said:

    Free said:

    If you're not gonna discuss without trying to start a fight, I will not engage you.

    To whom is that addressed?

    Much of what I've read in this thread doesn't seem like anyone has been looking for a rumble.

    (but if so, I'm curious who are the Sharks and who are the Jets)
    And who gets to be Officer Krupke??
    I know the answer but I ain't saying.
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    hedonist said:

    Free said:

    If you're not gonna discuss without trying to start a fight, I will not engage you.

    To whom is that addressed?

    Much of what I've read in this thread doesn't seem like anyone has been looking for a rumble.

    (but if so, I'm curious who are the Sharks and who are the Jets)
    And who gets to be Officer Krupke??
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Aaaahaha. Excellent work, WYTM.
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    Watch this thread fall like a leaf.
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    Watch this thread fall like a leaf.

    On a late fall, windy day?
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Watch this thread fall like a leaf.

    Because veering off-topic and passive agression deserves no attention. That's right.
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    WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe I have no idea what's going on right now! Posts: 4,957
    Free said:

    Watch this thread fall like a leaf.

    Because veering off-topic and passive agression deserves no attention. That's right.
    And yet, here you are giving it attention and bumping it at the same time...
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    Watch this thread fall like a leaf.

    Because veering off-topic and passive agression deserves no attention. That's right.
    And yet, here you are giving it attention and bumping it at the same time...
    Calling it as it is. Make it what you want.
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    I know how I voted, but don't really know about the rest of my family. I'm 1000% ok with that. Family is the by far most important thing to me and no matter how much I may disagree internally with any other family member's views, I will leave it alone. Why? Because life is too fucking short.

    My hope is that no matter how nasty the election was...and how divided our country (and/or families) seems to be over the result of the election...that we as a country, will take a long look in the mirror and make some changes. That's my $0.02.

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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited November 2016
    mfc2006 said:

    I know how I voted, but don't really know about the rest of my family. I'm 1000% ok with that. Family is the by far most important thing to me and no matter how much I may disagree internally with any other family member's views, I will leave it alone. Why? Because life is too fucking short.

    My hope is that no matter how nasty the election was...and how divided our country (and/or families) seems to be over the result of the election...that we as a country, will take a long look in the mirror and make some changes. That's my $0.02.

    Happy Holidays, everyone.

    Thanks for posting.
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    Oh, the drama.
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