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So, What Comes Now?

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    I can't believe that this is the world we live in. Americans deserve the disdain of the rest of the world.
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    lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    I can't believe that this is the world we live in. Americans deserve the disdain of the rest of the world.

    Not for this they don't, they do for meddling, bullying and war mongering and as of yet none of thats on Trump...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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    lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    lukin2006 said:

    Why the insults??^^^^

    Because pjfan has NEVER insulted anyone. :rofl:
    Well I don't read every single post, so I would not know, I will try to do better...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited November 2016
    lukin2006 said:

    I can't believe that this is the world we live in. Americans deserve the disdain of the rest of the world.

    Not for this they don't, they do for meddling, bullying and war mongering and as of yet none of thats on Trump...
    Correct, plus we're real real good at killing people.
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Trump is one man.
    He will not destroy you.

    He and republican controlled congress will. But who cares about facts when you're a Trumphadist moron?
    poor baby....do want uncle Godfather to call the WHAAAABULENCE ? LOL !!!!!

    Godfather.

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,781
    currently its locked at 48% each with 97% precincts reporting.

    I'll wait and see if the Electoral College exerts its will and decides different who is president. After all, they arent bound by popular vote from each state
    some states they may be , but this seems a time where we find out just WHY we have that quirk of a system

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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    now we wait
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    After a brief period of instability (3-6 months) - this is what is going to happen:

    * The current trend of the corporatization of america will continue at a faster pace
    * Expect individual states to continue to write absurd laws aimed at dividing people
    * No wall will be built
    * NAFTA & TPP will both pass
    * The disenfranchised will continue to be disenfranchised except some will think they aren't

    all predicated on him avoiding jail time
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,781
    polaris_x said:

    After a brief period of instability (3-6 months) - this is what is going to happen:

    * The current trend of the corporatization of america will continue at a faster pace
    * Expect individual states to continue to write absurd laws aimed at dividing people
    * No wall will be built
    * NAFTA & TPP will both pass
    * The disenfranchised will continue to be disenfranchised except some will think they aren't

    all predicated on him avoiding jail time

    Your last raises an interesting question, can a sitting president pardon himself for crimes unrelated to his presidency?
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    brianlux said:

    They will be so busy putting out fires nothing will get done. We will be the laughing stock of the entire world. Trump supporters will smirk until the snake turns on them and it will be too late. Meanwhile, anyone with any sense will be speaking out and standing up for well thought out ideas, supporting each other, and working to promote leadership that at least makes more sense than Clown President.

    Fear is normal but the sensible thing to do is work past the fear, turn the energy of anger into something constructive and useful, and set a good example.

    And don't forget to ignore those who would bate or bully. That's their problem, not yours.

    These are my thoughts - laced with bitter anger this morning.
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,938

    brianlux said:

    They will be so busy putting out fires nothing will get done. We will be the laughing stock of the entire world. Trump supporters will smirk until the snake turns on them and it will be too late. Meanwhile, anyone with any sense will be speaking out and standing up for well thought out ideas, supporting each other, and working to promote leadership that at least makes more sense than Clown President.

    Fear is normal but the sensible thing to do is work past the fear, turn the energy of anger into something constructive and useful, and set a good example.

    And don't forget to ignore those who would bate or bully. That's their problem, not yours.

    These are my thoughts - laced with bitter anger this morning.
    Agreed, though I hope that out of this D & R alike begin to recognize that the people have a limit to the immorality they will tolerate in their politicians. Maybe this shocking turn of events encourages government to reform, and return to democracy from its current plutocracy.
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mickeyrat said:

    polaris_x said:

    After a brief period of instability (3-6 months) - this is what is going to happen:

    * The current trend of the corporatization of america will continue at a faster pace
    * Expect individual states to continue to write absurd laws aimed at dividing people
    * No wall will be built
    * NAFTA & TPP will both pass
    * The disenfranchised will continue to be disenfranchised except some will think they aren't

    all predicated on him avoiding jail time

    Your last raises an interesting question, can a sitting president pardon himself for crimes unrelated to his presidency?
    it's really hard to convict people with money in general in the US ...
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    polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    benjs said:

    brianlux said:

    They will be so busy putting out fires nothing will get done. We will be the laughing stock of the entire world. Trump supporters will smirk until the snake turns on them and it will be too late. Meanwhile, anyone with any sense will be speaking out and standing up for well thought out ideas, supporting each other, and working to promote leadership that at least makes more sense than Clown President.

    Fear is normal but the sensible thing to do is work past the fear, turn the energy of anger into something constructive and useful, and set a good example.

    And don't forget to ignore those who would bate or bully. That's their problem, not yours.

    These are my thoughts - laced with bitter anger this morning.
    Agreed, though I hope that out of this D & R alike begin to recognize that the people have a limit to the immorality they will tolerate in their politicians. Maybe this shocking turn of events encourages government to reform, and return to democracy from its current plutocracy.
    dude ... they still use the imperial system there ... they haven't understood the concept of democracy for some time ... it's not going to change because of this ... if anything - it strengthens it ...
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    rustneversleepsrustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209

    Good god op.
    Enough with scaring people.
    The people have spoken.

    the radlibs are scared to death. its too funny...
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,938

    Good god op.
    Enough with scaring people.
    The people have spoken.

    the radlibs are scared to death. its too funny...
    What exactly is a radlib?
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    benjs said:

    brianlux said:

    They will be so busy putting out fires nothing will get done. We will be the laughing stock of the entire world. Trump supporters will smirk until the snake turns on them and it will be too late. Meanwhile, anyone with any sense will be speaking out and standing up for well thought out ideas, supporting each other, and working to promote leadership that at least makes more sense than Clown President.

    Fear is normal but the sensible thing to do is work past the fear, turn the energy of anger into something constructive and useful, and set a good example.

    And don't forget to ignore those who would bate or bully. That's their problem, not yours.

    These are my thoughts - laced with bitter anger this morning.
    Agreed, though I hope that out of this D & R alike begin to recognize that the people have a limit to the immorality they will tolerate in their politicians. Maybe this shocking turn of events encourages government to reform, and return to democracy from its current plutocracy.
    He's a malatov cocktail thrown into our political system. That loon Michael Moore will be right about the rust belt backing him to send a 'statement' to our government.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    I don't think progressives should roll over and make it easy for him. I think Elizabeth Warren should take the lead.
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    CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    dignin said:

    I don't think progressives should roll over and make it easy for him. I think Elizabeth Warren should take the lead.

    I would think Bernie would take the lead.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    lukin2006 said:

    I can't believe that this is the world we live in. Americans deserve the disdain of the rest of the world.

    Not for this they don't, they do for meddling, bullying and war mongering and as of yet none of thats on Trump...
    No, they deserve it for electing Trump too.
    Voting in a sexual predator who wants to fuck his daughter and who said he wants to register and/or deport all Muslims deserves disdain.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,619
    Well his civil suit related to the rape accusation should be a full blown drama. I'm surprised no real mention of it in the press. I even read an article talking about Trumps pending suits and they didn't reference it. Did it get dropped and I missed that?
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    brianlux said:

    They will be so busy putting out fires nothing will get done. We will be the laughing stock of the entire world. Trump supporters will smirk until the snake turns on them and it will be too late. Meanwhile, anyone with any sense will be speaking out and standing up for well thought out ideas, supporting each other, and working to promote leadership that at least makes more sense than Clown President.

    Fear is normal but the sensible thing to do is work past the fear, turn the energy of anger into something constructive and useful, and set a good example.

    And don't forget to ignore those who would bate or bully. That's their problem, not yours.

    Bingo!
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    I love how people are browbeating people's emotions not 24 hours after a shit storm that was 2 years in the making.

    I personally think he will plunge ahead and get as much done as fast as he can, with the help of people who actually know how to get anything done in government, since he hasn't got a clue. Obviously many of his threats won't play out any time soon, if ever. Like that $10 billion wall that will actually cost $50 billion and destroy ecosystems. And like rounding up American citizens and deporting them to the country of their ancestors' origins. But he likely will do his best to get some other things done asap. Attacking the right to choose will likely happen quickly if he wasn't lying about that (which he may have been - I really don't know; he was never socially conservative until the campaign, so I'm hoping he was just lying through his teeth to his supporters like usual on that one). The whole government is Republican now, and hungry to increase the number of back-alley abortions, apparently. It will be relatively easy to place more restrictions on access, since that's already been happening with ease for a few years now in some states, especially Texas. Is Roe vs Wade actually under threat now? Possibly. And, unless Obama finally actually does something about it first, he could fill the SCOTUS seat with someone who will help him start loading illegals on buses (or train cars?). And I'm sure he has his next sexual conquest in his sights already. Yee haw.

    What I really wonder about is his business. What is he going to do with all that?? He doesn't have time for both, but I really can't see him just going totally hands off with the whole Trump brand name. Is it legal for a sitting President to engage in that kind of work? I have no clue. Surely there would be a shit load of conflicting interests for him now. As of last night, actually. Is anyone keeping an eye on that??? Who is going to police Trump and his creepy kids?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Well his civil suit related to the rape accusation should be a full blown drama. I'm surprised no real mention of it in the press. I even read an article talking about Trumps pending suits and they didn't reference it. Did it get dropped and I missed that?

    Dropped.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    edited November 2016
    dignin said:

    Well his civil suit related to the rape accusation should be a full blown drama. I'm surprised no real mention of it in the press. I even read an article talking about Trumps pending suits and they didn't reference it. Did it get dropped and I missed that?

    Dropped.
    Oh? Since when? Last I heard she simply bailed on a press conference because she was receiving death threats from Trump supporters. That was only last week. If it was dropped since then, just the fact that THAT isn't all over the news, and why it was dropped (by someone supposedly getting death threats from Trump supporters) is completely fucked up. Of course, that basically nobody seemed to give a shit about the suit in the first place is even worse.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    Well his civil suit related to the rape accusation should be a full blown drama. I'm surprised no real mention of it in the press. I even read an article talking about Trumps pending suits and they didn't reference it. Did it get dropped and I missed that?

    Dropped.
    Oh? Since when? Last I heard she simply bailed on a press conference because she was receiving death threats from Trump supporters. That was only last week. If it was dropped since then, just the fact that THAT isn't all over the news, and why it was dropped (by someone supposedly getting death threats from Trump supporters) is completely fucked up. Of course, that basically nobody seemed to give a shit about the suit in the first place is even worse.
    I think she dropped it the same day, or next.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/04/donald-trump-teenage-rape-accusations-lawsuit-dropped
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    Well his civil suit related to the rape accusation should be a full blown drama. I'm surprised no real mention of it in the press. I even read an article talking about Trumps pending suits and they didn't reference it. Did it get dropped and I missed that?

    Dropped.
    Oh? Since when? Last I heard she simply bailed on a press conference because she was receiving death threats from Trump supporters. That was only last week. If it was dropped since then, just the fact that THAT isn't all over the news, and why it was dropped (by someone supposedly getting death threats from Trump supporters) is completely fucked up. Of course, that basically nobody seemed to give a shit about the suit in the first place is even worse.
    I think she dropped it the same day, or next.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/04/donald-trump-teenage-rape-accusations-lawsuit-dropped
    That's too bad, since it seems that she was bullied put of it. Meanwhile, it seems somewhat likely that the new president is a child rapist (and a spousal rapist, according to Ivana). And that he sexually assaults women and tries to pay porn stars to fuck him, even though he's married.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    So, what comes now ?
    America begins it's journey to heal its wounds suffered over the last 8 years, I will admit that some things the obama admin. were good but there were also so many bad things that he created as well and the current and past riots are a reflection of that, I don't recall any republican riots in the streets when he was elected, do you ?

    Godfather.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,781
    what comes now should be extensive polling to find out the various reasons 43% of the eligible voting population chose not to then do the necessary work to correct that abysmal turnout %.
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    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    mickeyrat said:

    what comes now should be extensive polling to find out the various reasons 43% of the eligible voting population chose not to then do the necessary work to correct that abysmal turnout %.

    Unreal that many people don't vote..i agree with you
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mickeyrat said:

    what comes now should be extensive polling to find out the various reasons 43% of the eligible voting population chose not to then do the necessary work to correct that abysmal turnout %.

    Corrections can start with the candidates selected by the DNC and RNC
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